violator said:

Exactly! All public apologies by celebs are about one thing: spin/damage control. That ain't nothing new. But after the apology is made, most celebs move on with their careers and it's business as usual. It just seems that in his case this hasn't occurred.
[Edited 10/8/09 20:18pm]

I thought this was gonna be about Isiah Thomas...

SCNDLS said:

roodboi said:

Me too.

This actor has always struck me as being full of himself. That and the fact that I've never considered his acting to be above average, I'm not sure his outburst is the sole cause of him not getting much work lately.

babynoz said:

Okay, yeah, him too.

I never knew who he was until I heard the story on him, by then he was gone so I don't care.

SCNDLS said:

You are totally right he didn't actually say anything to TR, but it was inferred. In actual fact his argument was with Patrick Dempsey not TR and he made some comment along the lines of ...'i'm not your fag boy' or something like that.

TR outed himself, as his name was never actually mentioned.


The double-standard in Hollywood is absolutely amazing; is Isiah an ass - probably, but is that why he is not working - probably not!

Mars23 said:

..dammit to hell people. why we gotta try and "oneup" the conversation with bullshit. Obviously the subject is of someone fucking up,(which i dont see how calling a gay man gay did that??) and being able to regain their standing in their profession...i detest how "leadership" almost always tries to minimize the point at hand!!!

its not only about isaiah cause god knows hes not the only one who could use a little restoration and that to me is what the discussion is about!

asshole or no, there are people who want to see him in the mainstream. watch tmz there are plenty of a-holes who are working ...regularly.

and why call the brother an asshole anyhow??? cause he aint holding up his snatch for the camera, or falling down drunk outside the restuarant???

myfavorite said:

Bitchual attitude.

Bad as the rest of these fuck-up acts.

Give me Mr.Jeffrey Wright any damn day of the week over this clown,,,,,at least dude is easily versatile.

I don't think he's been treated fair at all because he still keeps landing jobs and hasn't reached the point of being homeless yet. I don't give a damn if the people blackballing him are closet homophobics themselves who are trying to be politically correct or if he's given an apology which he didn't really mean anyway. All I care about is for an individual that fucks with one of us to experience and feel the same anger we feel when we are fucked with. And I could care less about them going to classes or therapy to change their feelings because that doesn't change what they have already done. I want them to still feel the same way and I want them to be pissed because they can't express it like they used to be able to. The sooner they learn that we aren't "sweet" and we don't have "sugar in our tank", the better because when you fuck with us, you are fucking with rattlesnake venom. I want that weak little "sweet" image of us gone.

That's still too much work. I want him to get to the point that he has to resort to making gay porn. And I don't want him to be the top either. I want him to be the one getting fucked.

SCNDLS said:

Has a brother ever really been treated fairly?

Neophyte said:

Yeah, that's how I heard it too. Yet there's never any mention of what Patrick Dempsey may have said or done before that or what the complete exchange was. Plus, I don't think the producers ever fully explained what happened either. Yet, there was enough inflammatory and somewhat speculative info out in the media to effectively end his career.

Yet, we've all seen lots of other celebs commit much more egregious acts but not only are they still working regularly they are still loved and celebrated in Hollywood. And I don't hear anybody saying he made a mistake and apologized let's give him another shot.
[Edited 10/9/09 9:09am]

myfavorite said:

You do have your somewhat lucid moments

i loved him in Grey's anatomy, and still really miss him from it.
he aplologised for what he said, that should have been enough.

myfavorite said:

That is NOT what he did.

sextonseven said:

what happened? what did he do?

who the hell is this dude anyway?

Cuddles said:

The story goes Isaiah, in an argument with another actor on the set of a TV show, referred to a third actor as a "faggot". At first he denied he said it, then apologized, then backtracked and denied it was in reference to the third actor (who is gay).

sextonseven said:

He said that he told Patrick in the midst of an argument and scuffle, "I'm not a pussy, a bitch or your lil fag boy." Should he have said that? No. Does that one statement in the midst of an argument with another man mean he's homophobic? Not in my eyes. Like I said earlier, I never thought the full story came out.

I personally hate the word faggot and would never use it. However, I've heard folks and even told people that were stepping to me wrong, "I ain't no punk!" That don't make me homophobic. Regardless of what he said, my point is he made a mistake, apologized for it, so why's his career still in the crapper when others have done worse and get chance after chance???

SCNDLS said:

Can u say Mike Vick?

SCNDLS said:

We both know the words "punk" and "fag" are not of equal weight.

Graycap23 said:

Actually, I think generally Mike IS getting a second chance. Things are going much easier for him than I thought they would, which I think is good. He did his time, seems contrite NOW, so I say let him get his paper.

sextonseven said:

Yeah, I know that. I'm just saying, that I see him using this word in the midst of a physical confrontation, in addition to the things he supposedly said, more so to say he wasn't weak (in the way one might say "punk") and not so much about him being homophobic. Still wrong for him to say it, but for me the person's intent is always more important than the words themselves.
[Edited 10/9/09 10:26am]

SCNDLS said:

Just so I'm clear, when brothers do something wrong.....it is magnified times 10.
Prison 4 dog fighting
Losing career 4 calling someone a name
Going 2 prison 4 going into a room 2 retrieve your OWN stolen property.....etc

Graycap23 said:

Very true.

he was in that Godawful update of bionic woman.

good actor but always came off to me like a conceited ass

daingermouz2020 said:

Ya'll are killing me. My asshole detector must be on the fritz cuz I never picked up on that.

vainandy said:

myfavorite said:..dude i understand, but you dont think they know when they are fukking with ya??? i would rather exercise patience and go in for the kill while I'm on top! what you know about what they play???




for expample.....
Mars23 said:



Yea, I did make the mistake of thinking there was an actual conversation here, but the end was a foregone conclusion.

Thanks anyway.




..dammit to hell people. why we gotta try and "oneup" the conversation with bullshit. Obviously the subject is of someone fucking up,(which i dont see how calling a gay man gay did that??) and being able to regain their standing in their profession...i detest how "leadership" almost always tries to minimize the point at hand!!!

its not only about isaiah cause god knows hes not the only one who could use a little restoration and that to me is what the discussion is about!

asshole or no, there are people who want to see him in the mainstream. watch tmz there are plenty of a-holes who are working ...regularly.

and why call the brother an asshole anyhow??? cause he aint holding up his snatch for the camera, or falling down drunk outside the restuarant???

You do have your somewhat lucid moments ..


now, i could either:

A)..really give it to her proper


B) make her retract her statement by poking holes in it

C) give her some more rope....eventually she'll feel it.


D)

scndls... j/k !!!