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Reply #30 posted 01/08/03 6:10pm

jessyMD32781

LaVisHh said:

I'm going to post this here, since I think it got lost in the mix.

So WHY are all females so stereotypical and all have a certain shape and look in the media?

Why are they what I see? Who controls this, or am I way off?

because they sell soap. People like to buy into the unrealistic ideal. In my experience, most men don't want a woman who looks the media stereotype. shrug
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Reply #31 posted 01/08/03 6:12pm

teller

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LaVisHh said:

But teller, why the type that is used? That is what I am asking...why Brittany Spears? Why Pamela Anderson? Why Jennifer Lopez? Why Halle Berry?

If they are telling us what to want, why those types? I don't see anyone lusting after less "perfect" women.

They're not telling us what to want, they're responding to a very dull, least-common-denominator average that hits the widest audience. Averages over a wide audience do not reflect individual tastes--they are a very distorted and strange picture.

Imagine if there were only 3 bands to choose from, how bland they would be in order to maximize numbers--oops, that's our current music industry...

The fact that these chicks are in the media is not surprising...but what the media does tell you is that these chicks are beautiful--that's where the distortion is...these chicks are DULL.
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Reply #32 posted 01/08/03 6:14pm

LaVisHh

jessyMD32781 said:

because they sell soap. People like to buy into the unrealistic ideal. In my experience, most men don't want a woman who looks the media stereotype. shrug


This is what I mean. biggrin

You said because they sell. Why are they "ideal" is my question. Is it nature, or has everyone been brainwashed.

Then again, men don't want a woman like that? I'm really confused now. biggrin
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Reply #33 posted 01/08/03 6:17pm

jseven

I think that the people that did not get any as a kid and looked at Playboy now have a lot of power control.

The people on T.V are to look at. No one looks at Pam Anderson and goes.."gee I wonder what she thinks about the middle east Situation."

What made me fall in Love with who I have now is first, I was attracted to her. Then I started having serious discussions with her from movies to politics to music.

I would get off on her mind so much, it made me want her even more.

It got to the point where I started looking at Maxim and Playboy and Victoria's Secret catalogs and going "Damn, I bet that would look so good on her"

I just want someone who has my back no matter what. Because, I will always have hers.

Loyalty is very important.

Dogs are considered a guys best friend not because they are the most graceful animal, but they are loyal.

Personal note: I prefer cats...wink
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Reply #34 posted 01/08/03 6:18pm

teller

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To answer the question...my ideal woman is something like Jeanine Garafolo...full lips, full ass, and mocking attitude with some brains. My wife, basically...
Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #35 posted 01/08/03 6:19pm

IceNine

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langebleu said:

Boy this is difficult.

I like what IceNine has said, which I suspect also incorporates

Challenging
Adventurous
Possesses a high level of self-responsibility

I would also add:

someone who is honest and strives for integrity (behaves according to the values they clearly espouse)


Your additions to my list are absolutely perfect!
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Reply #36 posted 01/08/03 6:19pm

LaVisHh

teller said:

They're not telling us what to want, they're responding to a very dull, least-common-denominator average that hits the widest audience. Averages over a wide audience do not reflect individual tastes--they are a very distorted and strange picture.

Imagine if there were only 3 bands to choose from, how bland they would be in order to maximize numbers--oops, that's our current music industry...

The fact that these chicks are in the media is not surprising...but what the media does tell you is that these chicks are beautiful--that's where the distortion is...these chicks are DULL.


Are you saying that they purposely select those who are "uncommon"? Then why would the average male (females too) give their left nut for one of these ladies? biggrin Playboy bunnies are what the average male considers perfect, airbrushing and all. lol

I've been fed that the reason most men want to be rock stars, celebrities, or millionaires is to have one of them as another sign of "success".

hmm
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Reply #37 posted 01/08/03 6:22pm

teller

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LaVisHh said:

Are you saying that they purposely select those who are "uncommon"? Then why would the average male (females too) give their left nut for one of these ladies? biggrin Playboy bunnies are what the average male considers perfect, airbrushing and all. lol

I've been fed that the reason most men want to be rock stars, celebrities, or millionaires is to have one of them as another sign of "success".

hmm

Ok...maybe I'm just sheltered, but I don't know anyone would give their left nut for Brittany Spears. Brittany Spears is a plastic doll.

That chick at the bowling alley, however, everyone seems to want her...but then we were all at the bowling alley at the time, so...
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Reply #38 posted 01/08/03 6:25pm

00769BAD

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LaVisHh said:

00769BAD said:

LaVisHh said:

ScottNPG said:

Halle Berry
drink


Why?

HALLEY BERRY IS FINE!!!
she not a steriotype FINE, she's a BOTTICCELLI FINE...
you know in different tribes you would think there
would be different taste, BUT you send HALLEY anywhere
and she gonna TURN HEADS and GET DICKS HARD!!!
whut about whut is steriotyped as THE PERFECT SHAPE OF A MAN that magazines portrey???
see this shit swings BOTH WAYS


Ah, but I don't think so. In the media it is ok for a man to not be fit, aging, and not so "perfect"...but for women...that is NOT the case.

then why all the flack about BEN AFLEKS wig...
and would he still be THE SEXIEST MAN
if he took his pics WITHOUT THE PIECE???
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
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Reply #39 posted 01/08/03 6:25pm

lolinex

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Ideal Female??? HMMM Someone that can put up with my butt!!!

I agree with you Lavish :K: , media tries to tell you what is ideal. Media tries to brainwash you.

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Reply #40 posted 01/08/03 6:25pm

LaVisHh

teller said:

Ok...maybe I'm just sheltered, but I don't know anyone would give their left nut for Brittany Spears. Brittany Spears is a plastic doll.

That chick at the bowling alley, however, everyone seems to want her...but then we were all at the bowling alley at the time, so...



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Reply #41 posted 01/08/03 6:28pm

LaVisHh

00769BAD said:

then why all the flack about BEN AFLEKS wig...
and would he still be THE SEXIEST MAN
if he took his pics WITHOUT THE PIECE???


Could be! Sean Connery is considered very sexy, and marketable. Career lengths for male actors are longer lasting and better paid, with much less stringent rules.

It just isn't the same.



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Reply #42 posted 01/08/03 6:30pm

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teller said:


Ok...maybe I'm just sheltered, but I don't know anyone would give their left nut for Brittany Spears. Brittany Spears is a plastic doll.

That chick at the bowling alley, however, everyone seems to want her...but then we were all at the bowling alley at the time, so...


Shoot I'm with you on the Britney Spears thang!!! I wouldn't even give her a second look. Well unless she looked at me crazy then I would have to give her a second look while beating her fake Boobs up. evil

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Reply #43 posted 01/08/03 6:31pm

OceanaOne

00769BAD said:

a free spirit
able to make a decision on her own
who has priorities that don't revolve
arround spending ever waking moment
with the victim du` souir.
body type is important only in
if it is a liability, ie.
"I CAN'T DO ALL THAT STUFF THAT A 125lb er CAN DO"
or "THAT HURTS ME"
if it looks like i can 'break' her,
i ain't fuckin with it.
when we are together, we can talk,
but it's not a MANDITORY prerequisite...
we can chill.
when we're out and about, she can HAVE FUN
she knows how to admire others without
gettin that ass checked, or without
becomming a specticle (when it's another woman)
a hostess of house gatherings, weather it be
a dinner gathering, or the FIGHT OF THE YEAR.
THIS WOMAN IS THE BOMB!!!
but i wouldn't marry her...
i would only do her wrong in the long run,
and i wouldn't want to break a spirit like that.
WOW Bad! love ...Who would have ever thought? ... A romantic you are... whip
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Reply #44 posted 01/08/03 6:32pm

00769BAD

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LaVisHh said:

00769BAD said:

then why all the flack about BEN AFLEKS wig...
and would he still be THE SEXIEST MAN
if he took his pics WITHOUT THE PIECE???


Could be! Sean Connery is considered very sexy, and marketable. Career lengths for male actors are longer lasting and better paid, with much less stringent rules.

It just isn't the same.



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he SEAN is an OLDER MAN... DISTINGUISHED as it were
there are OLDER WOMEN who share those distinctions
SHIT... ORSON WELLS was a sexy motherfucker...
BUT BEN is YOUNG!!!
if SEAN lost his hair as JAMES BOND
that motherfucker would have been THROUGH!!!
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #45 posted 01/08/03 6:40pm

LaVisHh

lolinex said:

Ideal Female??? HMMM Someone that can put up with my butt!!!

I agree with you Lavish :K: , media tries to tell you what is ideal. Media tries to brainwash you.

Much Love,
LoLinex



Nice to see you round these parts, S. hug kiss
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Reply #46 posted 01/08/03 6:42pm

tackam

teller said:

To answer the question...my ideal woman is something like Jeanine Garafolo...full lips, full ass, and mocking attitude with some brains. My wife, basically...


Aww, that's sweet.

Jeanine Garafolo would probably be my ideal woman too. I bet she'd be fun to live with, and a tiger in bed.

My husband thinks she's hot too. I wonder if she's married/monogamous. . .wink

Doves,
Mel!ssa
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Reply #47 posted 01/08/03 6:43pm

DigitalLisa

Here's one of my favorite quotes "You don't love a woman because she is beautiful, but she is beautiful because you love her."
-Anon.
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Reply #48 posted 01/08/03 6:44pm

LaVisHh

00769BAD said:

he SEAN is an OLDER MAN... DISTINGUISHED as it were
there are OLDER WOMEN who share those distinctions
SHIT... ORSON WELLS was a sexy motherfucker...
BUT BEN is YOUNG!!!
if SEAN lost his hair as JAMES BOND
that motherfucker would have been THROUGH!!!



But the number of women who share that distinction is FAR and few inbetween. In fact, I'd bet there are next to null females who haven't been told, or felt the need to have plastic surgery just to get work in the media.

It's hard to say, about the "if SEAN lost his hair" back during the James Bond days...cuz he didn't. BUT take a look at how popular Patrick Stewart of Star Trek: The Next Generation is/was? He was also voted, I don't remember what year, as one of the sexiest men alive!

lol

this is fun

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Reply #49 posted 01/08/03 6:49pm

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What if a woman possessed all of the qualities that you liked, and had some emotional issues..

And say you really adored her, would you help her through them, or would you say later?

I have seen many wonderful woman/men who possess wonderful qualities, and due to circumstances, and assholes, their lives have been marred. Some who can be helped, others beyond repair...

Am I unrealistic to believe that we can help each other..
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Reply #50 posted 01/08/03 6:51pm

LaVisHh

tackam said:

teller said:

To answer the question...my ideal woman is something like Jeanine Garafolo...full lips, full ass, and mocking attitude with some brains. My wife, basically...


Aww, that's sweet.

Jeanine Garafolo would probably be my ideal woman too. I bet she'd be fun to live with, and a tiger in bed.

My husband thinks she's hot too. I wonder if she's married/monogamous. . .wink

Doves,
Mel!ssa


I can't find her picture cry
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Reply #51 posted 01/08/03 6:54pm

teller

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LaVisHh said:

I can't find her picture cry

Fear is the mind-killer.
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Reply #52 posted 01/08/03 6:55pm

LaVisHh

Thank you, teller! She looks like a sweetheart!

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Reply #53 posted 01/08/03 6:56pm

00769BAD

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teller said:

LaVisHh said:

I can't find her picture cry


YES... SHE IS A HOTTIE!!!
I AM King BAD a.k.a. BAD,
YOU EITHER WANNA BE ME, OR BE JUST LIKE ME

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Reply #54 posted 01/08/03 7:01pm

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She is so funny! I would love to have a friend like her..
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Reply #55 posted 01/08/03 7:02pm

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so much that I posted twice..... smile
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Reply #56 posted 01/08/03 7:10pm

applekisses

LaVisHh said:

00769BAD said:

LaVisHh said:

ScottNPG said:

Halle Berry
drink


Why?

HALLEY BERRY IS FINE!!!
she not a steriotype FINE, she's a BOTTICCELLI FINE...
you know in different tribes you would think there
would be different taste, BUT you send HALLEY anywhere
and she gonna TURN HEADS and GET DICKS HARD!!!
whut about whut is steriotyped as THE PERFECT SHAPE OF A MAN that magazines portrey???
see this shit swings BOTH WAYS


Ah, but I don't think so. In the media it is ok for a man to not be fit, aging, and not so "perfect"...but for women...that is NOT the case.


Yeah, look at Drew Carey. He is not gorgeous, but is connected with women on his show who are...also, it's obvious that he would never date a woman who was the non-ideal media type.
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Reply #57 posted 01/08/03 7:15pm

applekisses

teller said:

LaVisHh said:

But teller, why the type that is used? That is what I am asking...why Brittany Spears? Why Pamela Anderson? Why Jennifer Lopez? Why Halle Berry?

If they are telling us what to want, why those types? I don't see anyone lusting after less "perfect" women.

They're not telling us what to want, they're responding to a very dull, least-common-denominator average that hits the widest audience. Averages over a wide audience do not reflect individual tastes--they are a very distorted and strange picture.

Imagine if there were only 3 bands to choose from, how bland they would be in order to maximize numbers--oops, that's our current music industry...

The fact that these chicks are in the media is not surprising...but what the media does tell you is that these chicks are beautiful--that's where the distortion is...these chicks are DULL.


YAY Teller! smile You're a real man smile
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Reply #58 posted 01/08/03 9:10pm

TRON

Why you LaV, of course! wink
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Reply #59 posted 01/08/03 9:10pm

TRON

But seriously, she already exists. I don't have to describe her either. I'll just post a picture instead.

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