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Thread started 10/08/09 7:06am

muskiediver

Prince fan sites should take note of a recent news item

Boing Boing editor Cory Doctorow issued a stern warning to Ralph Lauren yesterday on the website, saying that the company's attempt to silence their criticism has only inspired them to step up their efforts in the future:

"Copyright law doesn't give you the right to threaten your critics for pointing out the problems with your offerings. You should know better. And every time you threaten to sue us over stuff like this, we will:

a) Reproduce the original criticism, making damned sure that all our readers get a good, long look at it, and;

b) Publish your spurious legal threat along with copious mockery, so that it becomes highly ranked in search engines where other people you threaten can find it and take heart; and

c) Offer nourishing soup and sandwiches to your models."

This article can be found here:
http://shine.yahoo.com/ch...ge-521480/

What I take from this stance is don't let Prince bully you like Boing Boing editor Cory Doctorow. You need to take a stance, assert your rights, not bow down to unreasonable demands as many Prince fan sites have (or even closed re. housequake.com). While many our fans and don't want to fight Prince because they appreciate his music so much, the reality is if you don't fight then what will be left? Food for thought.
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Reply #1 posted 10/08/09 7:35am

Dayclear

What the Hell are you talking about ? confused
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Reply #2 posted 10/08/09 7:36am

andykeen

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People need to stand up and fight for what is right in general, look how the world is ending up... Don't back down!! Why couldn't half of america fight for George Bush not to be president(i still can't get over this), everybody knows Al gore won, but still we let this go on just because a higher power has deemed it right, Don't be pushed over by someone just because of their bank balance!


Man its late in Aussie.. Time for bed!

Keenmeister
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Reply #3 posted 10/08/09 8:49am

muskiediver

andykeen said:

People need to stand up and fight for what is right in general, look how the world is ending up... Don't back down!!


Exactly, stand up!


Andykeen watch Capitalism by Michael Moore, you would really like it based on some of your comments. smile
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Reply #4 posted 10/08/09 8:56am

OnlyNDaUsa

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Has Prince ever taken any action other than ones involving copyright issues?
"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #5 posted 10/08/09 8:59am

RodeoSchro

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Has Prince ever taken any action other than ones involving copyright issues?


He's pretty much fucked us over on Lotu$flower, but the year's not over yet, so I remain the eternal optimist.
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/09 8:59am

muskiediver

Re. Ralph Lauren article:

"As Wendy Seltzer from the Chilling Effects project said, "Sounds like a pretty solid fair use case to me. If criticism diminishes its effectiveness, that's different from the market substitution copyright protects against. And I've rarely seen a thinner DMCA form-letter."

http://www.boingboing.net...hat-r.html

To sharpen my point, I think using Prince photos, especially ones intended for publicity on this site or and other Prince fan site is fair use. I would not have bowed down and removed them so easily.
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/09 10:27am

OnlyNDaUsa

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RodeoSchro said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Has Prince ever taken any action other than ones involving copyright issues?


He's pretty much fucked us over on Lotu$flower, but the year's not over yet, so I remain the eternal optimist.



Yeah, but after the NPGMC you should have known. But still that is not the same as going after people for being critical.
"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #8 posted 10/08/09 10:29am

DesireeNevermi
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woot! woot! EXCELLENT!!!!!
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Reply #9 posted 10/08/09 10:38am

Nothinbutjoy

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This makes me smile.

mr.green
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #10 posted 10/08/09 6:01pm

andykeen

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muskiediver said:

andykeen said:

People need to stand up and fight for what is right in general, look how the world is ending up... Don't back down!!


Exactly, stand up!


Andykeen watch Capitalism by Michael Moore, you would really like it based on some of your comments. smile



I love MM, I'm reading "Stupid white people" Which is a awesome read, Wish we could all have the guts to do w

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Reply #11 posted 10/08/09 6:04pm

Vendetta1

OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:



He's pretty much fucked us over on Lotu$flower, but the year's not over yet, so I remain the eternal optimist.



Yeah, but after the NPGMC you should have known. But still that is not the same as going after people for being critical.
I had zero problem with NPGMC. i always wonder what people mean when they say that.
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Reply #12 posted 10/08/09 6:12pm

roodboi

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Reply #13 posted 10/08/09 6:39pm

Imago

Vendetta1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:




Yeah, but after the NPGMC you should have known. But still that is not the same as going after people for being critical.
I had zero problem with NPGMC. i always wonder what people mean when they say that.

The .wma files offered on npgmc were drm protected and no longer worked...except in bootleg form.
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Reply #14 posted 10/08/09 6:45pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Vendetta1 said:

I had zero problem with NPGMC. i always wonder what people mean when they say that.



Oh it still works for you? Funny I went there one day and found it closed. Only to find out he planed to open a new web site and charge me again. Lifetime membership? He can not offer a lifetime membership and then arbitrarily get tired of it and close it down.
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Reply #15 posted 10/08/09 6:46pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Imago said:


The .wma files offered on npgmc were drm protected and no longer worked...except in bootleg form.



that too! Oh you want to listen to the albums you bought in good faith? Too Bad!
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Reply #16 posted 10/08/09 7:51pm

Vendetta1

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Vendetta1 said:

I had zero problem with NPGMC. i always wonder what people mean when they say that.



Oh it still works for you? Funny I went there one day and found it closed. Only to find out he planed to open a new web site and charge me again. Lifetime membership? He can not offer a lifetime membership and then arbitrarily get tired of it and close it down.
Lifetime of the club. Prince is fickle and him shutting it was not a shock. Prince was planning to rip you off four years ago? lol

Prince can do whatever he wants.
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Reply #17 posted 10/08/09 7:58pm

OnlyNDaUsa

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Vendetta1 said:

Lifetime of the club. Prince is fickle and him shutting it was not a shock. Prince was planning to rip you off four years ago? lol

Prince can do whatever he wants.


He KNEW he would rip me off before I was born! He is Jesus.
"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #18 posted 10/08/09 7:59pm

Vendetta1

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Vendetta1 said:

Lifetime of the club. Prince is fickle and him shutting it was not a shock. Prince was planning to rip you off four years ago? lol

Prince can do whatever he wants.


He KNEW he would rip me off before I was born! He is Jesus.
falloff
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Reply #19 posted 10/09/09 9:37am

Nothinbutjoy

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Vendetta1 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



He KNEW he would rip me off before I was born! He is Jesus.
falloff



lol
I'm firmly planted in denial
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