Plying a kid with booze and drugs is as far from right as one can get. He was an adult; she was a child. I don't see how anyone could justify what he did.

In the same way the DC snipers met with different fates (with the man being judged more harshly than the teen he brainwashed), the law holds adults to a higher standard than the children they persuade to do things that are against the law and ultimately harmful to them.

Polanski should be brought to justice. And by justice, I mean, the only question should be how deep below the prison he gets placed.

uPtoWnNY said:

The what? I just googled Ned Beatty in order to find out what you said but I couldn´t find an answer.

A minor cannot leagally give consent, nor can someone who is intoxicated. This fails on both counts. It was, indeed, rape. And he should serve the time he is sentenced.

I think he is a brilliant artist. He is also a rapist.

CarrieMpls said:

I agree with you, but the bold part could be a little problematic for about 99% of the population

KoolEaze said:

He means get fucked up the ass by a hillbilly. Ned Beatty was in a little scary film gem called "Deliverance" and he got delivered alright.

Wow. I always thought this charge was somehow attached to his affair with Nastassja Kinski. I never heard of this Samantha, and I didn't know he was generally into young girls.
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It is a bit surprising to see some of the guys on this thread talk about rape versus a 13 year old giving consent. I'm really scratching my head over it.

Vendetta1 said:

you know that 13 year olds are fully equipped to make adult decisions...especially when drugs and alcohol are involved

I'm really not surprised by anything I read here

roodboi said:

I'm not either Jason.

I will say I will fuck a grown motherfucker up if he ever put his hands on my 14 year old, consent or not.

Lammastide said:

Um... Now that I think about it, what about Nastassja Kinski?!? Polanski was with her when she was only 15! Does France not have age of consent laws!?!

roodboi said:

Ok?

CarrieMpls said:

and there it is!

he's such a sweet guy though

Geimer not feeling what happened to her was rape does have the potential to muddy things up legally, but anyone who has been the victim of sexual assault or who has worked with victims of sexual assault knows just how damned complicated thinking about the event and the attacker can be, even to the point of denying the severity of the crime.

But Geimer's feeling aside, she was still only 13, she was intoxicated -by substances he gave her, no less -and he was an adult. there's no grey area, legally that is rape.

Wow talk about a shelf life.

I remain skeptical.

How ridiculous!

I suppose he wasn't a "rapist" when he got that Oscar, huh?

And where were the parents of the girl when those events happened? Aren't they legally responsible for her well being? Did THEY go to jail for leaving their child unattended and put to risk??? Talking 'bout hypocrisy...
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PanthaGirl said:

Skeptical of what? He said he had sex with her. If there was nothing wrong with that. why did he run?

I was watching Nancy Grace last night. She had the original statement from the victim. She was indeed at his house for a photo shoot. He gave her champagne and drugs. He had her posing topless in a hot tub. She said she was nervous, but thought the shots would not show her breasts. He then got in the tub with her. She felt scared and told him she wanted to go home and faked having an asthma attack.

He took her in the house and told her she needed to just lie down. He then took her to a dark room. She said she knew what he wanted and kept telling him she wanted to go home. He wouldn't let up so she gave in, figuring he would then let her go home.

At one point, there was a knock at the door. He got up off of her and she also headed for the door to get out. He grabbed her back and started to sodomize her.

That is rape. My daughter will be 13 in a couple of months and I shudder to think of her in this situation and what she would do/think of to get out of it. Sure, her parents shouldn't have let her alone over there, but it was the '70s and parents were a lot more naive back then.

When I was 17 (yes, much older), I had a guy whom I was making out with keep trying to get me to have sex with him. I kept telling him no and that I had to go home. He wouldn't stop or get off of me. I said, "fine," simply to get it over with and be able to go home. Some kids don't know how to get themselves out of bad situations.

Vendetta1 said:

He ran from United States just like YOU would have run from Iran if you had been caught having sex with a man you were not married to: To NOT be lapidated

Vendetta1 said:

Skeptical of the entire ordeal.

He ran because he was being persecuted by the americans.

meow85 said:

Exactly. Case closed. Jail his ass.

uPtoWnNY said:

If this was a brother.....would we be even having this conversation?

Why do people keep saying "he had sex with her" when she wasn't even fully conscious nor consenting due to the alchohol and drugs he gave her? Last time I checked, it takes two to tango. He raped her...plain and simple.

Calling him a rapist leads to the following conclusions:
1. The USA is not in a hurry to catch rapists. If it is after 33 years, so be it. There have been a lot of situations where Polanski could have been arrested in the last 33 years. He was not exactly hiding like a Bin Laden.
2. It's OK to praise child rapists with prestiguous awards like an Academy Award.
3. Screening and watching movies made by child rapists is perfectly cool.

When Polanski was 44 years old he had sex with a 13 year old which is wrong in my opinion. But... those were the seventies. The girl had been using drugs before and her mother agreed to make nude photographs of her. Polanski and Geimer made a settlement. Geimer wants to leave the case behind.
But even more important: Polanski was released.

dothejump said:

Good grief, all that extra detail just makes this sound like a fucked up case. Fucked up because of the pervert and money grubbing parties involved. Polanski is a child loving perv and Geimer and her parents were Ho and Pimps. Just sad.

Graycap23 said:

We would if his victim were a sister. If she were um...white. He would have been in jail all these 31 years.

dothejump said:

He was released after pleading guilty with the understanding he would return to court for sentencing. That's when he left the country. People in the US can post bail, or be released on their own recognizance - basically "good faith" that they are not going to skip town. Polanski left the countryto avoid being sentenced, that's not the same as released because the courts said "okay, it's fine for you to not serve jail time."

jone70 said:

I know how it works in the USA but I think it is weird to put criminals etc on the street again. With that you give them an opportunity to flee and you also indicate that they are not a threat to society.

But still my other questions stand: Why did it take more than thirty years to arrest him? Why do you give a rapist an Oscar? Why is it OK to show and watch his movies?
[Edited 9/29/09 10:00am]

Anyone that defends this fucker must be out of his mind. The man raped a 13 year old girl. Who cares that he made 3 or 4 good movies. It's sad that people like MJ get labeled as a pedo and castout without any proof but this fucker admit of doing shit like this and his attraction to young girls and still wins an oscar. Fuck this guy to the fullest. he's gonna burn right next to the jackass that killed his wife.