Truth is the identification of reality. As such there can be only ONE. So count me OUT.

teller said:

This is true -- reality. The real deal. If I however cannot see and explore the truth in and of myself everything I perceive as reality is poppycock so where;s the truth in that?

Truths differ.

Funksha said:

It's your responsibility to sort yourself out and agree with reality.

Truths never differ.

teller said:

What if my truth is different than your truth though?

Let's say you and I got into a fight and were no longer friends anymore. You viewed the reasons for the ending of that friendship different than I did. The reasons that you felt the friendship ended were YOUR truth... just as my reasons for the frienship ending were mine. They both differed, but yet were both the truth.

AzureStar said:

That's like one of us looking at the back of a car and one of us looking at the front...when we describe it to another, we give totally different "truths." But in fact there is no conflict, no difference, only an incompleteness, not a contradiction per se...

Now when people contradict one another--at least one of them must be un-true.

teller said:

But they are still truths to each of us... the truth as we know it. I understand what you're saying, but I still think that truths can differ... even if they are incomplete.

AzureStar said:

Yes they can differ...but in such a case they are not truths about the same thing, or if they are truths about the same thing, then they not truths about the same aspect of that thing.

So because people rarely have all the same information, it is our great struggle to communicate what we know and to integrate that with what other people know. But knowing that there can be NO contradictions is a blessing and a guide in the process.

teller said:

I agree with that...

AzureStar said:

A = A

teller said:

Grrr...

in & out Truths

Nah.
Should've asked me last year.

StCloud said:

The truth is the truth. The difference comes in how we perceive the truth. The truth we cannot change, we can only change ourselves and our perceptions. For example, some men may think they are supposed to be rulers. They believe they should rule over everything and everybody. Some believe their views and opinions are the only valid ones. But the truth is women can be even greater rulers and leaders as they don't operate on a selfish agenda, but rather a community oriented agenda. Take the God Wives for example of ancient Egypt. When their influence was prominent, ancient Egypt thrived. Whenever their influence was diminshed by the ruling pharohs Egypt suffered. If a man cannot allow himself to be ruled or guided by a woman he will never know the truth that woman make better rulers. This is something he must deal with within himself first before he can explore and experience the benefits of female domination.
[This message was edited Thu Jan 9 15:00:09 PST 2003 by Funksha]

This X-stupid thread still X-ists? X-kill me now.

Xump!

Thanks, Llee.. that was Xhilarating!

teller said:

I like where this is taking you.

Nice insight.

Funksha said:

Who decides how to perceive the truth...

Xpand.

StCloud said:

That's a good question. For sure expanding one's mind is necessary to perceive the real truth. An open mind can be filled with the truth more readily than a closed one. To explore the truth one must be willing to receive it.

I think there's only one entity qualified for answer your question and I know you know who that is.

But I would like to ask you a question. Do you honestly think a person can know the truth without knowing themselves?

Thank ya'll for the input.

StCloud said:

I miss Teller. . .*sniff*

Nobody can decide the right way to perceive. Perceiving just happens.

Fun thread.

tackam said:

The only person who can make this decision is the person him/herself. Take for example the "Fear" thread. One should first analyze yourself and throw out all the negative baggage before positivity can shine through. The truth is within all of us, but the fear can prevent us from realizing it as fear blocks all incoming knowledge.