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Thread started 09/17/09 9:53am

Graycap23

Housing. What would u do?

Question. (Assume u can't sell your current home anywhere near what U owe)

Let's say u live in your DREAM house and have no bills except your house. U owe a balance of $390,000 on your house. What would u do, if another house (foreclosure) in a similiar neigborhood could be purchased for $200,000 that is just as nice or better that the house u currently have? If u had the $200,000 cash in the bank, would u;

A: purchase the newer home and walk away from your current house netting u $190K plus all of the interest you owe with the 20 years left 2 pay on the house.

B: Stay in your current home
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Reply #1 posted 09/17/09 9:56am

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C: Buy the other house for cash and lease it to someone. The return you get from that should be better than what you're getting from the bank right now.

This is a great example why we need to avert as many foreclosures as possible by modifying loans. All the foreclosures are going to do is drive down the values of EVERYONE'S homes. And then some people are going to walk away from their home because they're underwater, which will continue the vicious cycle of downward home values.
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/09 10:09am

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

C: Buy the other house for cash and lease it to someone. The return you get from that should be better than what you're getting from the bank right now.

This is a great example why we need to avert as many foreclosures as possible by modifying loans. All the foreclosures are going to do is drive down the values of EVERYONE'S homes. And then some people are going to walk away from their home because they're underwater, which will continue the vicious cycle of downward home values.

Good answer but that leave u with principal and interest on the $390K u still owe on the original house. No way a lease is going 2 make that up.
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Reply #3 posted 09/17/09 1:20pm

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Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:

C: Buy the other house for cash and lease it to someone. The return you get from that should be better than what you're getting from the bank right now.

This is a great example why we need to avert as many foreclosures as possible by modifying loans. All the foreclosures are going to do is drive down the values of EVERYONE'S homes. And then some people are going to walk away from their home because they're underwater, which will continue the vicious cycle of downward home values.

Good answer but that leave u with principal and interest on the $390K u still owe on the original house. No way a lease is going 2 make that up.


No, he isn't suggesting that you leave the old house or stop paying on it.

but if you have $200,000 sitting around, the lease money on the $200,000 house is a better investment than the money just sitting in the bank.

So assuming you can still make the payments on the old house, the new one is still a good investment.
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/09 1:24pm

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NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


Good answer but that leave u with principal and interest on the $390K u still owe on the original house. No way a lease is going 2 make that up.


No, he isn't suggesting that you leave the old house or stop paying on it.

but if you have $200,000 sitting around, the lease money on the $200,000 house is a better investment than the money just sitting in the bank.

So assuming you can still make the payments on the old house, the new one is still a good investment.

I'm suggesting that that may the best option.....
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Reply #5 posted 09/17/09 1:29pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

NDRU said:



No, he isn't suggesting that you leave the old house or stop paying on it.

but if you have $200,000 sitting around, the lease money on the $200,000 house is a better investment than the money just sitting in the bank.

So assuming you can still make the payments on the old house, the new one is still a good investment.

I'm suggesting that that may the best option.....


If the old mortgage is too much to handle, maybe. I have heard of people doing what you suggested--getting the new house, and then walking away from the old one.

But foreclosure will mess w/your credit. I wouldn't do it unless it was necessary. I definitely wouldn't do it as an investment or as a chance to one-up the system.
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/09 1:34pm

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


I'm suggesting that that may the best option.....


If the old mortgage is too much to handle, maybe. I have heard of people doing what you suggested--getting the new house, and then walking away from the old one.

But foreclosure will mess w/your credit. I wouldn't do it unless it was necessary. I definitely wouldn't do it as an investment or as a chance to one-up the system.

That credit rating thing is just another way 2 "control" people.
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/09 2:13pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

NDRU said:



If the old mortgage is too much to handle, maybe. I have heard of people doing what you suggested--getting the new house, and then walking away from the old one.

But foreclosure will mess w/your credit. I wouldn't do it unless it was necessary. I definitely wouldn't do it as an investment or as a chance to one-up the system.

That credit rating thing is just another way 2 "control" people.


If you think you never need another loan for a car, home (you're sure you want to stay in the new house?), business, etc, then yeah I would agree. Loans are a trap to keep you paying far more than the purchase price.

It's risky, but maybe you buy the $200,000 home & walk away from credit entirely.
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Reply #8 posted 09/17/09 2:18pm

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


That credit rating thing is just another way 2 "control" people.


If you think you never need another loan for a car, home (you're sure you want to stay in the new house?), business, etc, then yeah I would agree. Loans are a trap to keep you paying far more than the purchase price.

It's risky, but maybe you buy the $200,000 home & walk away from credit entirely.

Thta's what I'm saying.....
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Reply #9 posted 09/17/09 8:28pm

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Well, this whole loan modification program which was passed in the stimulus package was supposed to help those homeowners who were paying off their mortgages but found themselves underwater. Unfortunately, a lot of banks are making homeowners jump through even more hoops to get their loan modified. And in some cases the banks aren't foreclosing quickly on a lot of homes because they already have too many properties taken back that they cannot sell. If they were forced to foreclose immediately on all of the homes in default, the banks would go under themselves.

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Reply #10 posted 09/17/09 8:36pm

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Personally, I can't believe someone who purchased a home would just "walk away" from it. You are responsible for that purchase - and for your debt. The thought that I, a taxpayer and citizen who handles her finances responsibly, would end up footing the bill for any part of someone else's lack of responsibility makes me physically ill.
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Reply #11 posted 09/18/09 5:43am

Graycap23

Genesia said:

Personally, I can't believe someone who purchased a home would just "walk away" from it. You are responsible for that purchase - and for your debt. The thought that I, a taxpayer and citizen who handles her finances responsibly, would end up footing the bill for any part of someone else's lack of responsibility makes me physically ill.

I would agree with u in general, but when u look at what banks and other financial institutions are doing 2 consumers.....consumers had better WAKE up.
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Reply #12 posted 09/19/09 10:10am

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:

C: Buy the other house for cash and lease it to someone. The return you get from that should be better than what you're getting from the bank right now.

This is a great example why we need to avert as many foreclosures as possible by modifying loans. All the foreclosures are going to do is drive down the values of EVERYONE'S homes. And then some people are going to walk away from their home because they're underwater, which will continue the vicious cycle of downward home values.

Good answer but that leave u with principal and interest on the $390K u still owe on the original house. No way a lease is going 2 make that up.


How are you paying it now?
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Reply #13 posted 09/19/09 10:11am

RodeoSchro

Genesia said:

Personally, I can't believe someone who purchased a home would just "walk away" from it. You are responsible for that purchase - and for your debt. The thought that I, a taxpayer and citizen who handles her finances responsibly, would end up footing the bill for any part of someone else's lack of responsibility makes me physically ill.


I am sorry to hear that you have been sick since the day George W. Bush turned a surplus into a deficit. Hope you feel better soon.
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Reply #14 posted 09/19/09 12:46pm

kimrachell

my parents just HAD to walk away from their house, my dad's office closed, and in-order to keep a job he had to transfer to another state with the same company. and they were unable to sale their house, they owe more on it then what they can sell it for. so, they had no choice, now they'll be renting an apt., it about killed my mom to have to walk away as that was her little dream house, but they really just had no other way. confused
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Reply #15 posted 09/20/09 1:35pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:


Good answer but that leave u with principal and interest on the $390K u still owe on the original house. No way a lease is going 2 make that up.


How are you paying it now?

This is not 4 me. It's just a question based on situations I am finding people in. In some cases they can pay but really just don't want 2. I can't say I'm disagreeing with them.
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Reply #16 posted 09/20/09 1:44pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:



How are you paying it now?

This is not 4 me. It's just a question based on situations I am finding people in. In some cases they can pay but really just don't want 2. I can't say I'm disagreeing with them.


Not paying because you just don't want to is bogus. I would not respect anyone that could pay but defaulted on purpose.
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Reply #17 posted 09/20/09 8:35pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:


This is not 4 me. It's just a question based on situations I am finding people in. In some cases they can pay but really just don't want 2. I can't say I'm disagreeing with them.


Not paying because you just don't want to is bogus. I would not respect anyone that could pay but defaulted on purpose.

As bogus as credit card companies charging people 29% interest? As people owing more on their homes that what they are worth? As banks charging $35.00 for overdrafts of $.25 cents? Hummmmm.....
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Reply #18 posted 09/21/09 4:38am

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Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:



Not paying because you just don't want to is bogus. I would not respect anyone that could pay but defaulted on purpose.

As bogus as credit card companies charging people 29% interest? As people owing more on their homes that what they are worth? As banks charging $35.00 for overdrafts of $.25 cents? Hummmmm.....


Is the mortgage company charging these people 29% interest? Did the mortgage company cause the decline in home values? Is the mortgage company charging $35.00 for overdrafts of $.25 cents? Hummmmm.....smile

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Reply #19 posted 09/21/09 4:52am

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I would buy the 2nd house and lease it out. assuming you are able to continue to pay on your current home, the 2nd one should pay for itself in about 10 years!

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Reply #20 posted 09/21/09 6:23am

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:


As bogus as credit card companies charging people 29% interest? As people owing more on their homes that what they are worth? As banks charging $35.00 for overdrafts of $.25 cents? Hummmmm.....


Is the mortgage company charging these people 29% interest? Did the mortgage company cause the decline in home values? Is the mortgage company charging $35.00 for overdrafts of $.25 cents? Hummmmm.....smile

Two wrongs do not make a right.

Does the mortage company own the bank that is doing these things 2 consumers?
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Reply #21 posted 09/21/09 6:28am

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myfavorite said:

I would buy the 2nd house and lease it out. assuming you are able to continue to pay on your current home, the 2nd one should pay for itself in about 10 years!

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Reply #22 posted 09/21/09 2:59pm

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