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Hopkins Student Goes Samurai on Intruder I hope this kid doesn't go to jail. IMO, he was in the right.
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I don't know what to say about this. Of course the punishment doesn't fit the crime but I don't know what I would have done. I know I'd be pissed that there was someone in my garage a day after someone took some stuff from my house. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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No charges from what I understand. | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: Of course the punishment doesn't fit the crime but I don't know what I would have done.
I do. Call the police. This is totally wrong and can't understand how can anyone doubt what to do. What if the burglar had carried a gun? | |
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PANDURITO said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: Of course the punishment doesn't fit the crime but I don't know what I would have done.
I do. Call the police. This is totally wrong and can't understand how can anyone doubt what to do. What if the burglar had carried a gun? They caught the fool by surprise and he lunged at the kid. Good for him, taking a repeat offender off the streets. http://www.baltimoresun.c...6472.story |
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uPtoWnNY said: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-sword-killing0917,0,16472.story
confrontation with man took place outside garage He went outside to kill him. My lawyer would also advice me to say the burgler lunged at me  | |
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people are so wonderfully passive when it's not their body, family, home or property that's being violated... | |
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Maybe you're right. Why do we need the police anyway?
Every city could save $71,025 per policeman a year. That's a lot of money. Hey. They could even finance guns for every citizen so you don't have to pay for your own pistol or katana | |
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PANDURITO said: Maybe you're right. Why do we need the police anyway?
Every city could save $71,025 per policeman a year. That's a lot of money. Hey. They could even finance guns for every citizen so you don't have to pay for your own pistol or katana not quite correct The median expected salary for a typical Police Patrol Officer in the United States is $46,191. Source: http://wiki.answers.com/Q...ficer_earn " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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I don't know, seems like the guy may have just panicked..but that's just my impression of the story. Also, seems like he didn't intend to KILL him either.....I feel sorry for both sides. I couldn't carry the weight of knowing I killed someone and on the other hand the victim's family must be going through it. LIVE4LUV
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This kid will walk. It's legal in Maryland to use necessary force -- and that can mean lethal -- to defend one's person or property. This happened on his turf, and, frankly, there's no one around to challenge his self-defense story. Moreover, even if he is lying, I doubt the BPD will be inclined toward much forensic effort to uncover the criminality of the killing of a repeat offender.
But I don't buy a "panic" or "accident" scenario. First, who lunges at someone wielding a Samurai sword?  Next, while I could buy the blow that nearly severed dude's hand might have been reflex (because most of us would default to a sort of baseball-swinging action), I doubt many untrained persons would reflexively execute the sort of attack that would result in a "spear laceration." A simple knife jab? Sure. That could easily happen. But he technically impaled the guy with... a sword. That happens with intention.
[Edited 9/18/09 13:21pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: This kid will walk. It's legal in Maryland to use necessary force -- and that can mean lethal -- to defend one's person or property. This happened on his turf, and, frankly, there's no one around to challenge his self-defense story. Moreover, even if he is lying, I doubt the BPD will be inclined toward much forensic effort to uncover the criminality of the killing of a repeat offender.
But I don't buy a "panic" or "accident" scenario. First, who lunges at someone wielding a Samurai sword? Next, while I could buy the blow that nearly severed dude's hand might have been reflex (because most of us would default to a sort of baseball-swinging action), I doubt many untrained persons would reflexively execute the sort of attack that would result in a "spear laceration." A simple knife jab? Sure. That could easily happen. But he technically impaled the guy with... a sword. That happens with intention.
[Edited 9/18/09 13:21pm] He should walk..... | |
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Graycap23 said: Lammastide said: This kid will walk. It's legal in Maryland to use necessary force -- and that can mean lethal -- to defend one's person or property. This happened on his turf, and, frankly, there's no one around to challenge his self-defense story. Moreover, even if he is lying, I doubt the BPD will be inclined toward much forensic effort to uncover the criminality of the killing of a repeat offender.
But I don't buy a "panic" or "accident" scenario. First, who lunges at someone wielding a Samurai sword? Next, while I could buy the blow that nearly severed dude's hand might have been reflex (because most of us would default to a sort of baseball-swinging action), I doubt many untrained persons would reflexively execute the sort of attack that would result in a "spear laceration." A simple knife jab? Sure. That could easily happen. But he technically impaled the guy with... a sword. That happens with intention.
[Edited 9/18/09 13:21pm] He should walk..... So says Maryland law. It'll take one heck of a prosecutor to argue otherwise.Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: This kid will walk. It's legal in Maryland to use necessary force -- and that can mean lethal -- to defend one's person or property. This happened on his turf, and, frankly, there's no one around to challenge his self-defense story. Moreover, even if he is lying, I doubt the BPD will be inclined toward much forensic effort to uncover the criminality of the killing of a repeat offender.
But I don't buy a "panic" or "accident" scenario. First, who lunges at someone wielding a Samurai sword? Next, while I could buy the blow that nearly severed dude's hand might have been reflex (because most of us would default to a sort of baseball-swinging action), I doubt many untrained persons would reflexively execute the sort of attack that would result in a "spear laceration." A simple knife jab? Sure. That could easily happen. But he technically impaled the guy with... a sword. That happens with intention.
Well it was dark (past midnight) and the repeat offender might not have seen the sword or he could have been drunk, on drugs, any of several other reasons why he might lunge at someone, even with a sword. Second, the kid was surprised, his adreneline was probably through the roof and there is a good chance he just reacted. And finally, the kid should walk. If the intruder wasn't breaking the law in the first place, this would have never happened. Clear case of self defense and defending ones own property. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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Sowhat said: And finally, the kid should walk. If the intruder wasn't breaking the law in the first place, this would have never happened. Clear case of self defense and defending ones own property.
....and there it is.  |
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Sowhat said: Lammastide said: This kid will walk. It's legal in Maryland to use necessary force -- and that can mean lethal -- to defend one's person or property. This happened on his turf, and, frankly, there's no one around to challenge his self-defense story. Moreover, even if he is lying, I doubt the BPD will be inclined toward much forensic effort to uncover the criminality of the killing of a repeat offender.
But I don't buy a "panic" or "accident" scenario. First, who lunges at someone wielding a Samurai sword? Next, while I could buy the blow that nearly severed dude's hand might have been reflex (because most of us would default to a sort of baseball-swinging action), I doubt many untrained persons would reflexively execute the sort of attack that would result in a "spear laceration." A simple knife jab? Sure. That could easily happen. But he technically impaled the guy with... a sword. That happens with intention.
Well it was dark (past midnight) and the repeat offender might not have seen the sword or he could have been drunk, on drugs, any of several other reasons why he might lunge at someone, even with a sword. Second, the kid was surprised, his adreneline was probably through the roof and there is a good chance he just reacted. And finally, the kid should walk. If the intruder wasn't breaking the law in the first place, this would have never happened. Clear case of self defense and defending ones own property.  I suppose a controlled substance could've been at play. Barring that, I'm still having a tough time thinking fear or nerves, for example, would make me lunge at a guy with a Samurai sword instead of... say, running. And were it that dark, the kid with the sword is one bad $#@!. I know I'd not decidedly approach "something" I couldn't see, possibly dangerous enough that I'd be moved to grab a sword, in total darkness.  But, you're right: Who knows? Weird things can happen in the space of seconds.
As to whether the kid "should walk," there's little debate from a legal standpoint. I don't buy the kid's story, but even if he's lying, this seems a fairly open and shut case, as the law is in his favor and the intruder precipitated this all. From an ethical standpoint, though, I see space to go round-for-round (which I'm not particularly interested in doing). Ethics are subjective, though -- and that conversation would go on and on and on and on... [Edited 9/18/09 14:57pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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I find it ironic that they assume this guy is a thief and they cut off his hand.....makes it sound more planned then not. LIVE4LUV
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roodboi said: people are so wonderfully passive when it's not their body, family, home or property that's being violated...
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