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Thread started 09/09/09 6:19pm

ZombieKitten

Your opinions please!

Last night we had a parent teacher interview with our son Wally's teacher (who is hot by the way)

He told us mostly all the stuff we knew already, Wally could do much better if he concentrated, or applied himself etc. Then pulled this out of the blue:

"I've been calling him Walt" and asked if we wouldn't mind changing his name on the school roll, because he doesn't think Wally has the resilience to cope with any negative associations his name might have.

WTF!!! confuse

I know there used to be Wally Walpameur ads and "don't be a Wally with water" campaigns on TV in the 80s or 90s, but I don't really think the younger generation would even KNOW about those. When movie Wall-E came out, all the kids loved that and thought he was cool shrug

The teacher said that because the master and me weren't born in Australia, we might not be as aware of the negative impact his name might have. spit

My husband told him that when he was a kid "Leo Wanker" was a Paul Hogan skit character, and no kid was called Leo, except him. But, the teacher suggested, "you were probably a really resilient kid".

I didn't mention Charlotte the harlot or any number of other insults hurled in my direction, back when I was at school.

I think kids will victimise certain children no matter what their name is, teaching the kids resilience is what is the issue here. So far he has NOT been the victim of any kind of bullying or teasing in school hmmm and it may well be he never will be, do we change his name to remove a potential issue (that may well never arise)?

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Reply #1 posted 09/09/09 6:31pm

Imago

lol

He's going to end up chosing his own name soon anyway. lol


I remember being called 'Donky' "onkerdonky" and underdog lol

Of course I was picked on horribly for many many other reasons, namely being the only Asian kind most of the other kids had ever seen in real life, so my early years in school were traumatic for more than just my name. lol

In the end, I settled on "Dan" because my health teacher refused to say "Daniel" cause he thought it was too cumbersome whofarted, but I started to like the name because he was hot....I often wanted him to say "Dan, can you..." Yes, the fuck I can!!! excited ky shrug


In the military I ended up wanting my friends to call me 'donk' so it kind of came full circle. I ended up owning a varient of a nickname that I used to hate.



I don't know of any reason why Wally would traumatize the kid. Maybe the teacher is just being as protective as he can be. confuse
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Reply #2 posted 09/09/09 6:31pm

ThreadCula

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Heeeeck! No! Thats your son! You chose what to name him.
Sounds like he has a problem with the name...


When I was in 4th grade. My teacher gave this kid Mikey a hard time. She refused to call him Mikey because she thought it was childish. And she told him he was going to grow up to be a criminal. rolleyes
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Reply #3 posted 09/09/09 6:33pm

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Fuck that. Call your kid by the name he likes. No need to encourage issues that aren't even there. And while your son's teacher may be very experienced w/kids, he's hardly a child psychologist and has no right to try to influence such a huge thing as your son's identity.
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Reply #4 posted 09/09/09 6:34pm

Genesia

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How old is your son? If he's old enough to go to school, he's old enough to decide what he wants to be called. shrug
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Reply #5 posted 09/09/09 6:35pm

Anxiety

I went to school with a girl whose last name was Boughner. It was pronounced EXACTLY how you think.

What was even worse was when she and another girl with the last name Cox were in the same classroom. It was a 7th grade comedy bonanza. confused

The Boughner girl was used to it, though, and she actually had a good sense of humor about it...especially for a 7th grader. I mean, what else could she do? shrug

I think it's silly to change your name for fear of getting teased. Believe me, if you don't have an obviously tease-friendly name, kids will find SOMETHING to call you. Take it from ol' Farton Barton. neutral
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Reply #6 posted 09/09/09 6:35pm

ZombieKitten

Genesia said:

How old is your son? If he's old enough to go to school, he's old enough to decide what he wants to be called. shrug

he'll be 8 in December
I agree, he should decide
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Reply #7 posted 09/09/09 6:36pm

ZombieKitten

Anxiety said:

I went to school with a girl whose last name was Boughner. It was pronounced EXACTLY how you think.

What was even worse was when she and another girl with the last name Cox were in the same classroom. It was a 7th grade comedy bonanza. confused

The Boughner girl was used to it, though, and she actually had a good sense of humor about it...especially for a 7th grader. I mean, what else could she do? shrug

I think it's silly to change your name for fear of getting teased. Believe me, if you don't have an obviously tease-friendly name, kids will find SOMETHING to call you. Take it from ol' Farton Barton. neutral


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my thoughts exactly! nod
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Reply #8 posted 09/09/09 6:39pm

Vendetta1

Tell that bitch to go fuck herself. biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 09/09/09 6:43pm

Lammastide

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Charlotte the harlot!?! lol That's BRILLIANT!

Anyway... uh... yeah, let Wally decide.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #10 posted 09/09/09 6:44pm

SCNDLS

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I say you start calling him Sparrow. thumbs up!
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Reply #11 posted 09/09/09 6:52pm

Vendetta1

SCNDLS said:

I say you start calling him Sparrow. thumbs up!
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Reply #12 posted 09/09/09 6:53pm

Lammastide

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Oh... and post pics of this teacher dude. nod
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #13 posted 09/09/09 6:54pm

CarrieMpls

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ZombieKitten said:

Genesia said:

How old is your son? If he's old enough to go to school, he's old enough to decide what he wants to be called. shrug

he'll be 8 in December
I agree, he should decide


exactly.

I mean, how rude of the teacher, really.
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Reply #14 posted 09/09/09 6:57pm

ZombieKitten

Lammastide said:

Oh... and post pics of this teacher dude. nod

drool

he can say what he wants, he's excused because he's hot

anyway, he seems to think the name "Walt" is cool, and Wally doesn't mind.
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Reply #15 posted 09/09/09 6:58pm

JustErin

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How obnoxious.
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Reply #16 posted 09/09/09 7:00pm

ZombieKitten

CarrieMpls said:

ZombieKitten said:


he'll be 8 in December
I agree, he should decide


exactly.

I mean, how rude of the teacher, really.


Before he said it he apologised if we thought he was going out of line with his opinion, but we're pretty friendly and we've let him know how much we appreciate everything he does for our guys - he's the best grade 2 teacher at this school, everyone is clamouring to get their kids into his class, because this teacher really seems to care, perhaps in this case it's being over-protective, but he's been thinking about it and thought it important enough to mention to us, and we will of course consider it enough to ask Wally what he thinks (Wally was there last night during the interview).
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Reply #17 posted 09/09/09 7:19pm

ingamilo

I thought that these things were just possible to happen here in Portugal! lol
>I had a history similar to my son; his name is João Sebastião (it is common in mine country, the people having two proper names); and for the alphabetical order the teachers wanted always call him for João; but everyone treated him for Sebastião; he asked the teachers for they treat him for that name, and we never got...
Now those teachers' argument is still more fool! err
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Reply #18 posted 09/09/09 7:19pm

ingamilo

Lammastide said:

Oh... and post pics of this teacher dude. nod

lol
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Reply #19 posted 09/09/09 7:28pm

ZombieKitten

I've just been googling him, no pics, BUT…
he's vegan apparently!
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Reply #20 posted 09/09/09 7:42pm

jone70

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Fuck that. Either call him Wally, or let him decide what he prefers. I agree with those who say regardless of the name, kids will tease. I was christened "Joni Baloney" on the first day of kindergarten and my grade school friends still call me that sometimes. And if I had a $1 for everytime asked me where Chatchi was rolleyes, I'd have....enough money for a night on the town! lol

And as the first name on birth certificate says Joni, I always correct anyone who dares to call me by the icky, old lady name of Joan.
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/09 7:59pm

hokie

I think this is the one of the awkward things I've ever heard. whofarted

I think the teacher was overreacting a little here. If your son hasn't so far had any problems I wouldn't worry about it. If HE wants to be called Walt then let him, but it's your kid. lol I think you should call him what you named him.

I got called Jill the Pill!

"Jill take a chill pill! chill pill

No matter what a kid's name is their gonna get teased at some point.

My friend got called Craig the peg leg. falloff
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/09 8:02pm

ingamilo

ZombieKitten said:

I've just been googling him, no pics, BUT…
he's vegan apparently!


>to be vegetarian is good; but can eat cow meat, once a week wink
behind very rigid attitudes they appear, a lot of times, people full of certainties and... plenty stupid!
> I went like this; vegetarian and full of done ideas; i didn't leave my son to play with pistols and only had wood toys.... and he made their pistols when it bit the bread lol
> if the teacher goes vegetarian tells him that all ended for killing any thing, per times it can by a name...
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Reply #23 posted 09/09/09 8:06pm

ZombieKitten

ingamilo said:

ZombieKitten said:

I've just been googling him, no pics, BUT…
he's vegan apparently!


>to be vegetarian is good; but can eat cow meat, once a week wink
behind very rigid attitudes they appear, a lot of times, people full of certainties and... plenty stupid!
> I went like this; vegetarian and full of done ideas; i didn't leave my son to play with pistols and only had wood toys.... and he made their pistols when it bit the bread lol
> if the teacher goes vegetarian tells him that all ended for killing any thing, per times it can by a name...


mine did exact same thing, they built things with lego and called them shooters - they didn't even know the word "gun" yet
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Reply #24 posted 09/09/09 8:10pm

ZombieKitten

hokie said:

I think this is the one of the awkward things I've ever heard. whofarted

I think the teacher was overreacting a little here. If your son hasn't so far had any problems I wouldn't worry about it. If HE wants to be called Walt then let him, but it's your kid. lol I think you should call him what you named him.

I got called Jill the Pill!

"Jill take a chill pill! chill pill

No matter what a kid's name is their gonna get teased at some point.

My friend got called Craig the peg leg. falloff


We named him, but he has to live with it. If he says OK to Walt, we'll change it on the school roll on the advice of this teacher. I do think Wally is a diminutive name, probably even a little childish, but it sounds so nice to say out loud mushy with the Australian accent anyway boxed
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Reply #25 posted 09/09/09 8:32pm

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OMG, this teacher is a bit insane lol

His name is fine! and if the other kids have a problem with it he can tell them to kick rocks!
If you will, so will I
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Reply #26 posted 09/09/09 8:53pm

ZombieKitten

thekidsgirl said:

OMG, this teacher is a bit insane lol

His name is fine! and if the other kids have a problem with it he can tell them to kick rocks!


It's fine in USA, he even mentioned that!!! lol

but here:

"An unfashionable person; one who is foolish, inept, or ineffectual. Also as a mild term of abuse". (Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd Edition 1989)

1984 The 'Don't be a Wally with Water' advertising campaign was launched aimed at changing people's attitudes to wasting water.

"Wally appeared in water conservation adverts a few years ago. A kind of accident-prone garden dag, he managed to waste water, generally in ways that involved him flooding his own garden and/or house, and looking like a complete drip. Each ad would end with the tagline "Don't be a Wally with water".

Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "what a wally". I first heard it used by people returning from the IOW pop festival in 1971. Any idea why?

I've heard "wally" used as a dismissive term for anyone the speaker finds boring. It might come from the idea, true or not, that Wallace is a very conventional, old-fashioned name given to boys who became very conventional, old-fashioned men. (It's true that you don't meet many Wallaces anymore.) I don't know, though.

"What a Wally!" is commonly used in Australia to mean "what an idiot!". There's a "don't waste water" ad campaign over here that's been running since the 1980's with the tagline "Don't be a Wally with water" (a moron called Wally does silly things throughout). The Clean Ocean group also hand out an annual "Water Wally award" to the worst "Water Wally". Using "Wally" to mean a fool, nitwit or drongo is certainy much older than this ad campaign, though.

So perhaps there was a famously stupid Walter?
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Reply #27 posted 09/09/09 9:06pm

thekidsgirl

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sad well I guess you should leave the decision up to him

I didn't know Wally was such a controversial name!
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Reply #28 posted 09/09/09 9:14pm

ZombieKitten

thekidsgirl said:

sad well I guess you should leave the decision up to him

sigh
I didn't know Wally was such a controversial name!


The answer to this question:
Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "what a wally". I first heard it used by people returning from the IOW pop festival in 1971. Any idea why?


Wally

Although many people think that the Wally chant started at Weeley, ( lets face it '"Wally of Weeley "just has certain ring to it ) we believe it began in 1970 at the Isle Of Wight Festival , as Roger Gray testifies .

The Wally saga started at the IOW festival the year before. I was at both, and there must have been a fair number who were, so it's no surprise that the 'WALLY' chant started up again at Weeley. At the IOW in '70, my fiancee and I were sitting next to a crowd from Yeovil - sometime during (I think) the second day, in a break between bands, one of them said to his mates "Is that Wally over there?", pointing at someone picking their way through the crowd about 50 yards away. They agreed it was, and started shouting at him "Wally! Wally! Over here mate", etc. Within a minute, we, and others around, joined in, all shouting "Wally - over here". Soon, hundreds of people were shouting, and before the next band played, the chorus was taken up by thousands around the arena. The irony is that our neighbours never got to talk to Wally, because there were so many people shouting out his name from every direction, he (if he even realised it was him they were shouting for) never looked in their direction. So, as I said, with so many people from '70 IOW going to '71 Weeley, it's no surprise that the "Wally" shouts started again during the more boring moments.

Roger

Ernie Cole has another version

Hi
I've have just found your website and I notice the item regarding Wally. The story is correct- it did start at the IOW although I did not get to know Wally - but I do know he was Canadian. I know this as it was his two friends looking for him. They stepped over me and my pal Dave calling his name I asked 'what's the problem 'and their answer was ' we are lost and can not find our friend Wally' so doing the right thing we got out of our sleeping bags to give them a hand . The rest is history.
Regards
Ernie Cole

Other accounts from the IOW support this version, or instead of a person called Wally, the name applies to a dog, we have even had one guy claiming he was THE Wally, but he could not produce any corroborating evidence. Either way , the "Wally of Weeley" legend , is in some respects , a myth. Pity, as it makes nice alliteration....

The chant took a long time to wear thin , according to John E who wrote :

Just been reading about the Wally from Weeley/IOW chants. This was still going when I attended my first festival, Reading Rock, in 1983, don't know if it survived much later as I don't recall it at Knebworth in 1985....

John E

Anyway, it may have originated at a rock concert
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Reply #29 posted 09/09/09 9:23pm

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My now 26 year old son is named Angel. My husband wanted this name so bad because he was raised by his grandfather, Angel. As hispanics on the org will confirm, Angel is a very popular name in Mexico, but we live in the states.
I had the chicken pox in the first trimester, while pregnant with my son. He was born as healthy as can be, and I finally agreed, Angel would be his name. No sooner had we named him when all of the negativity towards his name started. People actually would tell us to our face we needed to change our son's name or he would be teased in school. In my son's 26 years, he was only teased twice about his name and that was in kindergarden. He is now a young professional writer, and his name set's him apart in a crowd. biggrin
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