heybaby said:

SCNDLS said:

OOH dirt? Spill it!

johnart said:

Well, he filmed them for about 2 years and got over 2700 hours of film if i recall correctly. So eventually he got complete access to both of them.

One of the funny tidbits was that early on he noticed that it was hard to get them to agree to shoot every day. They'd have it scheduled and when him and the crew would show up Val and his partner would say "No, not today." So the director got the great idea to hire hot young male models as his production assistants. So they'd have the PAs walk in the room first and chit chat with Val and partner to distract them while they set up the shot. Val and his partner would always ask him about the "beautiful" boys and then they gradually opened up.

When he did the Q&A portion I asked him about the dynamics between Val and his partner since they were a couple for so long (I think 30-40 years) and still business partners but are no longer romantically involved. He laughed and I could tell he wanted to say a lot more but he confirmed that after they got comfortable with him Val, his partner, and their steady stream of lovers were quite open. He said there are constant fights, arguments, cussing intermingled with all kinds of sex with all kinds of dudes. He used the words bacchanalian and orgies.

Anytime they travel, they require a private jet for them, their assorted friends and lovers, and his five pugs who go everywhere with Val. They were supposed to attend the screening event I went to but Neiman's and the Dallas Film Institue, the event sponsors, refused to provide the plane.

He also talked a lot about the long, protracted, contentious fights over him having final cut which he had. I believe the DVD is going to have about 7 hours of content.
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BklynBabe said:

I only got as far as the question about the girls becoming household names


What people don't understand is that editorial work makes you a "star" within the fashion industry but it doesn't pay very much (unless you book large ad campaigns and then it pays in the long run). The the REAL day to day work in catalog and advertising is how you get rich. Folks in the public eye turn their noses up at seeing girls in catalogs from JC Penny to J. crew not realizing that the models working these jobs are paid 1500-3000 dollars per day (when I was younger it was up to $10,000 but times have clearly changed in the last decade). The smaller the catalog often means the longer you work (so a Spiegel or JC Penny catalog will book girls 2-3 days at a time), whereas a thinner "niche" catalog like Boston Proper, or J.Crew, uses the same girl for maybe 5-7 days straight. What people don't know is that it's not about becoming a household name to the general public, it's about becoming a dependable face within the fashion industry itself that sells merchandise,and being repeatedly booked by clients that marks your fate on whether you're a top model. . The very clear upside of becoming an editorial darling (no matter what job you hold on the crew) is that it propels you to the exclusive world of advertising, and this is where you strike gold. The work assignments haver shorter days, it has the workhouse appeal of catalog, it has the luxury perks of editorial work, and the fees are sick. Suffice it to say this is the highest level of work people in the industry strive for.

Ottensen said:

That's true, catalog work is much more lucrative and steadier work. One of my BFF's made almost $1 million doing catalog work in Germany for many years. She's still recognized on the streets there.

BklynBabe said:

her house looks like tchochke hell

Cuddles said:

SCNDLS said: