Lammastide said:

They asked me if black people thought the Mr. Brown character was funny. They also thought he was a very negative stereotype.

DesireeNevermind said:

Nope! Not necessarily Yes I AGREE, there're predictable ones,,,,but how many times should we get hammered on the head with the same "broken down in desparate need of a man" role over & over again? Give a girl some variety here.

And Marlboro have grossed OVER some countries budget, so what? It still make their product unhealthy(and I'm a smoker ) the point is, while I marvel at the fact that he's a remarkable businessman esp in this age of recession and also the fact that he's(to my knowledge) the only person who keeps hiring black actors/actresses, but it shouldn't stop us people from examining his work. Being passive for the sake of not getting labeled with the "hater" word will only get us ending up with more & more 1/2 assed bullshit coonfests like this guy's movies.

As for some black people seeing something in his movies,,,,,honest to god, I don't know what it is and I've been trying to find out. Kudos to them, that doesn't mean I will jump on that bandwagon anytime soon.
[Edited 9/9/09 18:50pm]

Harlepolis said:

Smoking is very unhealthy and can cause lung cancer but no matter how many times we get hammered in our heads by the warnings, some people stop cold turkey and other people, including my grandmother, continue to smoke until they get emphysema, lung cancer and die. Tyler Perry's movies and plays are funny. People need to laugh more in life. This could be why people enjoy his movies.

theRight1 said:

"Whats funny" is subjective I find people like Paul Mooney are faaaaar more clever and funnier than whatshisface, but like I said, its all subjective.

Well...I think it's time for


THE WORST BLACK FILMS EVER MADE

and some of these films are actually pretty decent but wutevs.
http://www.iloveblackmovi...Worst.html

THE 100 WORST BLACK MOVIES (EVER)

1. Graffitti Bridge (1990)
2. Soul Plane (2004)
3. The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)
4. The Toy (1982)
5. Leonard Part 6 (1987)
6. Kazaam (1996)
7. Glitter (2001)
8. Belly (1998)
9. Pootie Tang (2001)
10. Mandingo (1975)

11. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995)
12. The Perfect Holiday (2007)
13. Phat Girlz (2006)
14. Girl 6 (1996)
15. The Cookout (2004)
16. I'm Bout It (1997)
17. Soul Man (1986)
18. Catwoman (2004)
19. Who’s Your Caddy? (2007)
20. B.A.P.S. (1997)

21. Beverly Hills Cop III (1994)
22. The Black Gestapo (1975)
23. How High (2001)
24. Meteor Man (1993)
25. In the Mix (2005)
26. Monster’s Ball (2001)
27. Juwanna Mann (2002)
28. Detroit 9000 (1973)
29. Ghost Dad (1990)
30. Phat Beach (1996)

31. Blankman (1994)
32. I Got the Hook Up (1998)
33. 3 Strikes (2000)
34. Norbit (2007)
35. Def by Temptation (1990)
36. Marci X (2003)
37. Foolish (1999)
38. Major Payne (1995)
39. House Party 4 (2000)
40. House Party 3 (1994)

41. Next Day Air (2009)
42. Under the Cherry Moon (1986)
43. House Guest (1995)
44. Meet Dave (2008)
45. Blackenstein (1973)
46. Woo (1998)
47. Boss’n Up (2005)
48. Irish Jam (2006)
49. King’s Ransom (2005)
50. Straight Out of Brooklyn (1991)

51. Coonskin (1975)
52. Hood of Horror (2006)
53. Love and a Bullet (2002)
54. My Baby’s Daddy (2004)
55. State Property 2 (2005)
56. State Property (2001)
57. Crossover (2006)
58. Boss Nigger (1975)
59. She Hate Me (2004)
60. Class Act (1992)

61. Bones (2001)
62. The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000)
63. See No Evil, Hear No Evil (1989)
64. Poetic Justice (1993)
65. The Walking Dead (1995)
66. The Fighting Temptations (2003)
67. The Man (2005)
68. Code Name: The Cleaner (2007)
69. The Wash (2001)
70. Soul Soldier (1970)

71. Livin’ Large (1991)
72. Head of State (2003)
73. Double Take (2001)
74. The Honeymooners (2005)
75. Burglar (1987)
76. Honky (1971)
77. Waist Deep (2006)
78. The Great White Hype (1996)
79. Good Burger (1997)
80. The Mighty Quinn (1989)

81. Penitentiary (1979)
82. Honey (2003)
83. Critical Condition (1987)
84. The Ladies Man (2000)
85. Johnson Family Vacation (2004)
86. The Distinguished Gentlemen (1992)
87. Beloved (1998)
88. Fat Albert (2004)
89. Superfly T.N.T. (1973)
90. Little Man (2006)

91. First Sunday (2008)
92. Sprung (1997)
93. Higher Learning (1995)
94. Holy Man (1998)
95. Who’s the Man? (1993)
96. Colors (1988)
97. Shaft (2000)
98. White Chicks (2004)
99. Queen of the Damned (2002)
100. The Wiz (1978)

theRight1 said:

"Whats funny" is subjective I find people like Paul Mooney are faaaaar more clever and funnier than whatshisface, but like I said, its all subjective.

Harlepolis said:

I agree. I also laugh a lot everyday. I don't get why people don't think folks like you and I don't laugh.

Vendetta1 said:

Let them think what they wanna think, I'll be damned before I give a 1/4 of a shit
[Edited 9/9/09 20:50pm]

Do you know that he'll be directing the movie version of Ntozake Shange’s play For Colored Girls Who Considered Suicide(When The Rainbow Isn't Enough)?

Harlepolis said:

i just vomited in my mouth a little.

ugh, he is gonna fuck it up.

phunkdaddy said:

No I'm not I like classic movies and I also like modern stuff just like the next girl, but I know when I'm getting fed with bullshit. In my case though, I have 0 tolerance for it. Yes I agree "at the end of the day they are all movies" but if you have kids, then I wouldn't underestimate the power of cinema and ALL media outlets if I were you, how they effect the minds of the young ones is pretty well documented.

Speaking of modern movies, go watch Medicine For Melancholy and Good Day To Be Black & Sexy, both movies came out last year,,,,,let me know what you think when you do.

cborgman said:

Wait till you read this

http://www.shadowandact.com/?p=9656

The author of this article is a writer for Jet magazine btw. Do me a favor and read the comments below

child please, as long as his closeted behind is making $ hand over fists degrading all of us, he won’t stop til the fat meat drops.

cborgman said:

I hollered when she said that and I was at work.

Its so nice to know that I ain't the only one who's guilty of "high standards" of her own.

I've never understood what was supposed to be so good about this guy. Some people really do seem to rate him though.

Well...I think it's time for


THE WORST BLACK FILMS EVER MADE

and some of these films are actually pretty decent but wutevs.
http://www.iloveblackmovi...Worst.html

THE 100 WORST BLACK MOVIES (EVER)

1. Graffitti Bridge (1990)
2. Soul Plane (2004)
3. The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)
4. The Toy (1982)
5. Leonard Part 6 (1987)
6. Kazaam (1996)
7. Glitter (2001)
8. Belly (1998)
9. Pootie Tang (2001)
10. Mandingo (1975)

11. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995)
12. The Perfect Holiday (2007)
13. Phat Girlz (2006)
14. Girl 6 (1996)
15. The Cookout (2004)
16. I'm Bout It (1997)
17. Soul Man (1986)
18. Catwoman (2004)
19. Who’s Your Caddy? (2007)
20. B.A.P.S. (1997)

21. Beverly Hills Cop III (1994)
22. The Black Gestapo (1975)
23. How High (2001)
24. Meteor Man (1993)
25. In the Mix (2005)
26. Monster’s Ball (2001)
27. Juwanna Mann (2002)
28. Detroit 9000 (1973)
29. Ghost Dad (1990)
30. Phat Beach (1996)

31. Blankman (1994)
32. I Got the Hook Up (1998)
33. 3 Strikes (2000)
34. Norbit (2007)
35. Def by Temptation (1990)
36. Marci X (2003)
37. Foolish (1999)
38. Major Payne (1995)
39. House Party 4 (2000)
40. House Party 3 (1994)

41. Next Day Air (2009)
42. Under the Cherry Moon (1986)
43. House Guest (1995)
44. Meet Dave (2008)
45. Blackenstein (1973)
46. Woo (1998)
47. Boss’n Up (2005)
48. Irish Jam (2006)
49. King’s Ransom (2005)
50. Straight Out of Brooklyn (1991)

51. Coonskin (1975)
52. Hood of Horror (2006)
53. Love and a Bullet (2002)
54. My Baby’s Daddy (2004)
55. State Property 2 (2005)
56. State Property (2001)
57. Crossover (2006)
58. Boss Nigger (1975)
59. She Hate Me (2004)
60. Class Act (1992)

61. Bones (2001)
62. The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000)
63. See No Evil, Hear No Evil (1989)
64. Poetic Justice (1993)
65. The Walking Dead (1995)
66. The Fighting Temptations (2003)
67. The Man (2005)
68. Code Name: The Cleaner (2007)
69. The Wash (2001)
70. Soul Soldier (1970)

71. Livin’ Large (1991)
72. Head of State (2003)
73. Double Take (2001)
74. The Honeymooners (2005)
75. Burglar (1987)
76. Honky (1971)
77. Waist Deep (2006)
78. The Great White Hype (1996)
79. Good Burger (1997)
80. The Mighty Quinn (1989)

81. Penitentiary (1979)
82. Honey (2003)
83. Critical Condition (1987)
84. The Ladies Man (2000)
85. Johnson Family Vacation (2004)
86. The Distinguished Gentlemen (1992)
87. Beloved (1998)
88. Fat Albert (2004)
89. Superfly T.N.T. (1973)
90. Little Man (2006)

91. First Sunday (2008)
92. Sprung (1997)
93. Higher Learning (1995)
94. Holy Man (1998)
95. Who’s the Man? (1993)
96. Colors (1988)
97. Shaft (2000)
98. White Chicks (2004)
99. Queen of the Damned (2002)
100. The Wiz (1978)

Well...I think it's time for


THE WORST BLACK FILMS EVER MADE

and some of these films are actually pretty decent but wutevs.
http://www.iloveblackmovi...Worst.html

THE 100 WORST BLACK MOVIES (EVER)

1. Graffitti Bridge (1990)
2. Soul Plane (2004)
3. The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)
4. The Toy (1982)
5. Leonard Part 6 (1987)
6. Kazaam (1996)
7. Glitter (2001)
8. Belly (1998)
9. Pootie Tang (2001)
10. Mandingo (1975)

11. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995)
12. The Perfect Holiday (2007)
13. Phat Girlz (2006)
14. Girl 6 (1996)
15. The Cookout (2004)
16. I'm Bout It (1997)
17. Soul Man (1986)
18. Catwoman (2004)
19. Who’s Your Caddy? (2007)
20. B.A.P.S. (1997)

21. Beverly Hills Cop III (1994)
22. The Black Gestapo (1975)
23. How High (2001)
24. Meteor Man (1993)
25. In the Mix (2005)
26. Monster’s Ball (2001)
27. Juwanna Mann (2002)
28. Detroit 9000 (1973)
29. Ghost Dad (1990)
30. Phat Beach (1996)

31. Blankman (1994)
32. I Got the Hook Up (1998)
33. 3 Strikes (2000)
34. Norbit (2007)
35. Def by Temptation (1990)
36. Marci X (2003)
37. Foolish (1999)
38. Major Payne (1995)
39. House Party 4 (2000)
40. House Party 3 (1994)

41. Next Day Air (2009)
42. Under the Cherry Moon (1986)
43. House Guest (1995)
44. Meet Dave (2008)
45. Blackenstein (1973)
46. Woo (1998)
47. Boss’n Up (2005)
48. Irish Jam (2006)
49. King’s Ransom (2005)
50. Straight Out of Brooklyn (1991)

51. Coonskin (1975)
52. Hood of Horror (2006)
53. Love and a Bullet (2002)
54. My Baby’s Daddy (2004)
55. State Property 2 (2005)
56. State Property (2001)
57. Crossover (2006)
58. Boss Nigger (1975)
59. She Hate Me (2004)
60. Class Act (1992)

61. Bones (2001)
62. The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000)
63. See No Evil, Hear No Evil (1989)
64. Poetic Justice (1993)
65. The Walking Dead (1995)
66. The Fighting Temptations (2003)
67. The Man (2005)
68. Code Name: The Cleaner (2007)
69. The Wash (2001)
70. Soul Soldier (1970)

71. Livin’ Large (1991)
72. Head of State (2003)
73. Double Take (2001)
74. The Honeymooners (2005)
75. Burglar (1987)
76. Honky (1971)
77. Waist Deep (2006)
78. The Great White Hype (1996)
79. Good Burger (1997)
80. The Mighty Quinn (1989)

81. Penitentiary (1979)
82. Honey (2003)
83. Critical Condition (1987)
84. The Ladies Man (2000)
85. Johnson Family Vacation (2004)
86. The Distinguished Gentlemen (1992)
87. Beloved (1998)
88. Fat Albert (2004)
89. Superfly T.N.T. (1973)
90. Little Man (2006)

91. First Sunday (2008)
92. Sprung (1997)
93. Higher Learning (1995)
94. Holy Man (1998)
95. Who’s the Man? (1993)
96. Colors (1988)
97. Shaft (2000)
98. White Chicks (2004)
99. Queen of the Damned (2002)
100. The Wiz (1978)

DesireeNevermind said:

So be it, If I or anybody else don't settle for less just because the bad outweighs the good, then so be it.

And no, there're PLENTY of good black films(new or old) it just happens that in our case we have to pull up the effort to look for them. Check any of your local movie screenings(if you're a New Yorker or from LA, you're mostly lucky) you'll be blown away by the wealth of talent, intelligence and wit by black filmmakers, male or female.

Sadly, these movies don't get major distribution because "the power that be" believe that ANY black movie that stems away from "coonary" are too bourgeois,,,,and therefore don't sell

As much as I'd love to disagree with that,,,,its the sad truth. Thats what I meant when I said we don't have much balance in our movies, and that is why there's solace in "independent" black cinema because,,,,,at least, they get it and they have great deal of respect for their audience.

DesireeNevermind said:

graffiti bridge at #1? that's some old bullshit . like, who even saw that but us? am i wrong cuz i LOVE most of these movies?

Harlepolis said:

Isn't that why we should support Perry? I mean he's got his own studio now and is working on being his own distributor and creating a forum for up and coming black film makers. As for the coonery, black folk are just as much to blame because they give white producers what they think they want instead of what they know will make money. If black people come out in droves to support a decent film like "Deliver us From Eva" or a not-so-decent but non-coonish film like "Waiting to Exhale" then that proves there is a market beyond **cough** "How to Be a Player." We can tip the scales of balance in our favor and Perry is a good start.

So "black movie" can simply mean a movie with a black actor in it?

With regard to Graffiti Bridge...yep!

^ I feel ya but I see progress and improvement in his (Perry) future and at least he's not Eddie making Harlem Nights.
NOw that is a dude that had access, money and writers and producers at his disposal. The best he could do (and with legends such as Pryor and Foxx) was Harlem Nights. Tre Scandale!!!

Vendetta1 said:

Let them think what they wanna think, I'll be damned before I give a 1/4 of a shit
[Edited 9/9/09 20:50pm]

Harlepolis said:

Obviously, because you smoke cigarettes. may help you relax and laugh about the small things. I find Paul Moonie hilarious.

DesireeNevermind said:

Is it a BIG contradiction if I said I loved that movie?

You STFU Bennie! I would've told you to kiss my ass too, but you probably can't find it you blind motherfuckuh!

Della dragged everybody in that movie for filth I def agree about Eddie's ass, but I think people don't give him so much grieve becuase the man is actually funny,,,,his stand-up routines speak of their own.
[Edited 9/10/09 8:52am]

Harlepolis said:

And there it is. You won't jump on the bandwagon but you will be walking with a small number of folks who likewise don't take the ride. I just think that everybody needs to be represented and fortunately or unfortunately, Tyler's films are representing a lot of black people. They see themselves in his films. And he's still giving us way better product and positive characters than any white film maker has ever done or other black film makers for that matter.

I can think of more crap than I can quality black films
In 30 secs flat

Soul Plane
Who's Your Caddy
Little Man
Pootie Tang
Don't Be a Menace To Society While Drinking Your Juice
Harlem Nights
Beauty Shop
Booty Call
Poetic Justice


now that's exploitation in a big fuckin' way.

Well...I think it's time for


THE WORST BLACK FILMS EVER MADE

and some of these films are actually pretty decent but wutevs.
http://www.iloveblackmovi...Worst.html

THE 100 WORST BLACK MOVIES (EVER)

1. Graffitti Bridge (1990)
2. Soul Plane (2004)
3. The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)
4. The Toy (1982)
5. Leonard Part 6 (1987)
6. Kazaam (1996)
7. Glitter (2001)
8. Belly (1998)
9. Pootie Tang (2001)
10. Mandingo (1975)

11. Vampire in Brooklyn (1995)
12. The Perfect Holiday (2007)
13. Phat Girlz (2006)
14. Girl 6 (1996)
15. The Cookout (2004)
16. I'm Bout It (1997)
17. Soul Man (1986)
18. Catwoman (2004)
19. Who’s Your Caddy? (2007)
20. B.A.P.S. (1997)

21. Beverly Hills Cop III (1994)
22. The Black Gestapo (1975)
23. How High (2001)
24. Meteor Man (1993)
25. In the Mix (2005)
26. Monster’s Ball (2001)
27. Juwanna Mann (2002)
28. Detroit 9000 (1973)
29. Ghost Dad (1990)
30. Phat Beach (1996)

Blankman (1994)
32. I Got the Hook Up (1998)
33. 3 Strikes (2000)
34. Norbit (2007)
35. Def by Temptation (1990)
36. Marci X (2003)
37. Foolish (1999)
Major Payne (1995)
39. House Party 4 (2000)
40. House Party 3 (1994)

41. Next Day Air (2009)
Under the Cherry Moon (1986)
43. House Guest (1995)
44. Meet Dave (2008)
45. Blackenstein (1973)
46. Woo (1998)
47. Boss’n Up (2005)
48. Irish Jam (2006)
49. King’s Ransom (2005)
50. Straight Out of Brooklyn (1991)

51. Coonskin (1975)
52. Hood of Horror (2006)
53. Love and a Bullet (2002)
54. My Baby’s Daddy (2004)
55. State Property 2 (2005)
56. State Property (2001)
57. Crossover (2006)
58. Boss Nigger (1975)
9. She Hate Me (2004)
60. Class Act (1992)

61. Bones (2001)
62. The Legend of Bagger Vance (2000)
63. See No Evil, Hear No Evil (1989)
64. Poetic Justice (1993)
65. The Walking Dead (1995)
66. The Fighting Temptations (2003)
67. The Man (2005)
68. Code Name: The Cleaner (2007)
69. The Wash (2001)
70. Soul Soldier (1970)

71. Livin’ Large (1991)
72. Head of State (2003)
73. Double Take (2001)
74. The Honeymooners (2005)
75. Burglar (1987)
76. Honky (1971)
77. Waist Deep (2006)
78. The Great White Hype (1996)
79. Good Burger (1997)
80. The Mighty Quinn (1989)

81. Penitentiary (1979)
82. Honey (2003)
83. Critical Condition (1987)
84. The Ladies Man (2000)
85. Johnson Family Vacation (2004)
86. The Distinguished Gentlemen (1992)
87. Beloved (1998)
88. Fat Albert (2004)
89. Superfly T.N.T. (1973)
90. Little Man (2006)

91. First Sunday (2008)
92. Sprung (1997)
93. Higher Learning (1995)
94. Holy Man (1998)
95. Who’s the Man? (1993)
96. Colors (1988)
97. Shaft (2000)
98. White Chicks (2004)
99. Queen of the Damned (2002)
100. The Wiz (1978)