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Reply #30 posted 09/03/09 4:42pm

Nothinbutjoy

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I'm awful at advice. I'm a good listener though.

I'm sorry you are going through this. I guess the best thing to do is to focus on what you really want and then make a move. Or you can tough it out get a job in the field that you're studying, get paid and then make the switch. That may take a while though.

Sorry I couldn't be any help.

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You and I think so much alike! lol

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Reply #31 posted 09/03/09 4:44pm

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PunkMistress said:

JDInteractive said:



I know I'm being an ass I guess but this kind of rant makes me just wanna rattle their neck and say 'do something about it first!'.


I hear you.

But he's really young and having a tough time. I don't think he's whining and complaining, just at a really tough and frustrating time in his life. It sucks to realize that you know what you want to do with your life, but because you don't have money you don't see a way of accomplishing it. I think that's totally valid.

It's easy to say "do something about it," but the reality is, not everyone is privileged enough to do that something - especially when certain types of education are prohibitively expensive for someone who doesn't come from money.

Now, people who create threads crying about how their lives suck and whine about the same shit over and over again, while clearly doing nothing to help themselves? Those people I want to choke. But I don't think this thread falls into that category.



I agree! Venting is a healthy thing to do....I am sure you will do the right thing Alej..you are very smart and very mature for your age...hug
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Reply #32 posted 09/03/09 4:45pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I'm awful at advice. I'm a good listener though.

I'm sorry you are going through this. I guess the best thing to do is to focus on what you really want and then make a move. Or you can tough it out get a job in the field that you're studying, get paid and then make the switch. That may take a while though.

Sorry I couldn't be any help.

hug



You and I think so much alike! lol

hug





I can relate to Miguel's post as well...
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Reply #33 posted 09/03/09 4:46pm

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I hated college. HATED it. I stuck it out, only 3 years and then I had my degree and I was employable. Never looked back.
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Reply #34 posted 09/03/09 4:47pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

As much as you don't see it now, the course you're on is a good one to be on.

Engineering may not be your life's passions, but it is certainly a means to an end.

VERY few people your age have the resources (financial or otherwise) to pursue their dreams. You are well on your way to doing so.

You may not love the work, but if you stay disciplined for awhile longer and I do mean awhile, you will have the means to follow your dreams before you are 30.

Stay in school. Get the degree. Make smart decisions (ie, don't run up unnecessary debt). Take the free room and board from your folks (if you are indeed doing that) for as long as they will let you and if at all possible save any money that you can.

Work that engineering degree some years and again, make smart decisions and save.

You can have what you desire, just maybe not now or soon. It's all down to how committed you are to your dreams. What are you willing to sacrifice for them? Some years of boredom?

Hang in there. Hopefully, one day you'll look back on this from your artist loft in whatever city it is you want to be in and think, "THANK GOODNESS I'm not a freaking engineer ANYMORE!!!"

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I'm an accountant in my professional life and follow my heart in my personal life. work gives me the means to live a life, my personal gives me the means to LIVE my life. I get what I need from both ends. Setting yourself up financially is a huge thing and should really be your focus. You'll have time for your dreams and some of them might even change. But get yourself secure first then you can easily follow the rest hug
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Reply #35 posted 09/03/09 6:55pm

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I am lucky that what I love to do pays for me to goto college..Sure im tied to that facility for X number of years but then I am guarented (sp) a job! Maybe you can become an apprentise.. Or look into a company that pays for your education..
I know people will shoot me for saying this but if u hate what u are doing now, you will hate it in the future... Why pay for something you hate doing and will end up doing something else in the long run! I think every one of my friends who went to college for one thing ended up working in a TOTALLY different field..
Its never to late to change your major... Why cant u change it to an art major? All the degrees in the world wont make you happy of you hate what u are doing so follow your heart while you are young, and not supporting a mate and a family! Work during the day and go to night school... There are so many possibilities!
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Reply #36 posted 09/03/09 7:21pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

As much as you don't see it now, the course you're on is a good one to be on.

Engineering may not be your life's passions, but it is certainly a means to an end.

VERY few people your age have the resources (financial or otherwise) to pursue their dreams. You are well on your way to doing so.

You may not love the work, but if you stay disciplined for awhile longer and I do mean awhile, you will have the means to follow your dreams before you are 30.

Stay in school. Get the degree. Make smart decisions (ie, don't run up unnecessary debt). Take the free room and board from your folks (if you are indeed doing that) for as long as they will let you and if at all possible save any money that you can.

Work that engineering degree some years and again, make smart decisions and save.

You can have what you desire, just maybe not now or soon. It's all down to how committed you are to your dreams. What are you willing to sacrifice for them? Some years of boredom?

Hang in there. Hopefully, one day you'll look back on this from your artist loft in whatever city it is you want to be in and think, "THANK GOODNESS I'm not a freaking engineer ANYMORE!!!"

hug



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Reply #37 posted 09/03/09 7:22pm

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you guys touched grouphug

I feel a lot better now. I even got some homework done falloff
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Reply #38 posted 09/03/09 7:36pm

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It's not at all easy to follow your dream when it's something many folk don't look at as a "real" job (artistic fields). If you don't have the option to switch to an art/fashion school my advice would be to stick it through for now. I wish I had followed through my formal education to the end.
Yes things are happening for me as an artist, but I've been very fortunate to have a partner who supports my passion. I do ok, but am by no means the main bread-winner here...yet. They don't call us "starving artists" for nothing. lol
It's only under very specific (and lucky) situations that one can usually devote themselves to their artistic dreams on a full-time basis.

Just trying to be supportive, while keeping it real. wink

No tengo ni una duda que tu realizaras tus suenos. hug
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Reply #39 posted 09/03/09 7:52pm

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johnart said:

It's not at all easy to follow your dream when it's something many folk don't look at as a "real" job (artistic fields). If you don't have the option to switch to an art/fashion school my advice would be to stick it through for now. I wish I had followed through my formal education to the end.
Yes things are happening for me as an artist, but I've been very fortunate to have a partner who supports my passion. I do ok, but am by no means the main bread-winner here...yet. They don't call us "starving artists" for nothing. lol
It's only under very specific (and lucky) situations that one can usually devote themselves to their artistic dreams on a full-time basis.

Just trying to be supportive, while keeping it real. wink

No tengo ni una duda que tu realizaras tus suenos. hug


lol That's why people say I'm a pessimist nod

But I know what you mean. That's exactly what my mom said, "Do you want to starve?" lol

You hug boff
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Reply #40 posted 09/03/09 7:56pm

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I went backwards. I went for my passion, and nailed a pretty sweet gig before I graduated from college. But in seven years I got completely burned out. I thought a stiff job would be cool and get me away from the monsterous egos I worked with in while in radio.

So sometimes it can happen in reverse. I'm 32, and actually re-discovering that I was the shit, and that I was trying to live up to someone else's expectations of life. But I found out, fuck 'em. If you start listening to that little voice insisde you and act on instinct, you work harder and things start to fall into place. Why? Because you will have passion.

Don't feel trapped. Have you taken a liking to architecture? That involves creativity. I went to school with a guy that ran an internet radio station while majoring in physics. There may be other avenues that you can utilize that can help keep you sane. In fact one of my co-workers was a biology major - he was the music director for the station I worked for. The program of study you take will not determine your future.

Doing what the status quo wants you to do will make you a little more money, but you will be so miserable. If you feel like there is no choice, sit down and figure out what you really like. There is nothing wrong with having a side hustle while doing the boring things. I work the most novocaine brain job, but am taking steps back into the other world.

What I'm saying is the major you are in won't block you, and find an outlet that you can create to keep you sane until you find that right niche.

I've been there. Best of luck

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Reply #41 posted 09/03/09 8:25pm

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^ lol I appreciate your words hug
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Reply #42 posted 09/03/09 8:45pm

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I went through the same problem..actually i'm going through the same problem. i wanted to be a psych major because of the pay. then i thought well, i don't real psychology. then i started working a a library, because i remember that i always wanted to do something in the local library. i love the way library science operates. so much in fact, i actually want to study to become a librarian. some people have told me the pay does not cut it. but the joy i get when i help people out in the library is all i need. so i can say that you should do what ever brings joy to, regardless of what the pay is. i believe repressed enough, but i was not going to let it my parents control my career dream. you shouldn't either. follow your dreams regardless.

p.s. my only problem is that you need bachelor's degree first in order to go for the master in library science. can anyone recommend a major that will go hand in hand with the whole library science thing?
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Reply #43 posted 09/03/09 9:13pm

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Great shares here. I believe there is a huge bunch of us getting to our 40's, I see it coming for me. lol (1 1/2 years away)

I think I really started to questions which way when I was in my beginning 20's as well. Went to school for like 4ever, I think I stayed at the community college a bit too long. But it all worked out.

After about 11 years of both community college, a few years break and then getting my Nursing Assistant Degree, only then did I finally decide to go the Education Route. (I had no interest in poking people with needles lol) It started getting shady after that, which by this time I was in my 30's and left my marriage. I knew Elementary Education would give me stability, but by no means rich. So I graduated with my B.A. in Elementary Ed., Specializing in Art. During my time in the Education Program I was working in the hospital I am in now, doing Dietary (lol) it was an interesting job, very low paying at the time, but rewarding. Being there in the hospital, I was in the perfect situation at the right time. I had no clue it would end up the way it did.

What my point is... after I graduated with my B.A.... little did I know that all the schooling and past experiences, which also consisted of 9 years Montessori Teaching, I would land a job in Child Life, working with Pediatric Patients. I get to incorporate all of what I did over a course of nearly 15 years, definitely was not planned... but along the way, through my questions and uncertainties, unsettled moments and challenges... I truly embraced the time getting there, or here.

I get to advocate for Education, tutor them if needed or if time allows (we have more teachers now for this), understand the medical field, terminology, dietary needs and most of all, do art with these patients- times an endless number, each day. heart

Will I do this for the rest of my life? I don't believe I will (perhaps not in the exact environment I am in)... I feel I have perfected it to some degree, but I love it nonetheless and forsee myself there for a few more years, maybe more, maybe less.

Even as I approach 40, I know there may be another path out there for me to take after a few things have been completed and delt with. I understand it is important to wait it out. (for specific reasons)

Questioning ones path is good... we learn an incredible amount about ourselves during these very unsettling moments, I believe. While they totally suck as we go through them... it is shaping our very life and solidifying the path that will next come.

I really believe life has a strange way of working itself out, if we continue to be aware of our feelings, thoughts and choices we may make or can make, before making them too quickly. Thinking is good. rose Good Luck!
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Reply #44 posted 09/04/09 1:32am

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Question to Sir Alej.

When you talk about something artistic, do you actually have a picture in your mind? I mean, can you see yourself as a glass sculptor or a painter or composer?

If you can actually see yourself doing something (I mean actually really picture yourself doing it day in and day out with a big fat smile on your face) what you need to do is keep that in the forefront of your mind and work towards it.

I say this for a couple of reasons. The first one is you have to eat and to eat requires sacrifice. Unless you luck out and hook up with a millionaire philanthropist, that is. smile (At 33 still waiting for mine)

My 'career' (for want of a better word) has been very odd. I left home and school at seventeen out of necessity and have done some shitty jobs. I've also done some very good ones but none of them has really fulfilled my passions. Somewhere along the way I actually lost my passions and it really created a stale robotic feeling to my life. After rediscovering them and starting to do things as hobbies that I love, I find that what I do in my work life doesn't make me unhappy any more. As long as there is enough job satisfaction and your work doesn't suck all of the life out of you and leave you a semi-animated husk, you can funnel your energy into what you love. Then, if things are right for you, one day you'll be able to make the switch to what you really love.

btw you sound like you have ten times the common sense I had at your age. More power to you, my friend! hug
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Reply #45 posted 09/04/09 2:17am

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I m starting this book



It talks about taking small steps. Once a week going on an Artist Date by yourself. Today I m going to Hamleys toy store to play around with the toys.
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Reply #46 posted 09/04/09 3:06am

MacDaddy

Hey handsome,

You will get there eventually. Sometimes it seems that you've run out of all options. Remember you're still young, you will get plenty of opportunities. Maybe not as soon as you'd like but it will happen.

Focus on what you really want, make a plan, don't let anything get in the way of that plan. Forget all the obstacles and treat your ideas/wishes as if nothing is standing in its way.

Good luck mister!
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Reply #47 posted 09/04/09 6:42am

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JDInteractive said:

Alej said:




touched you hug rose


Jeezus, that was way harsh of me. Sorry. redface


hug I do it all the time. I was born with a razor tongue. lol
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Reply #48 posted 09/04/09 7:35am

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Alej said:

Hey, guys. I've been dealing with this for a couple of weeks now but today I'm just so mad at myself. I was going through some videos on youtube and some other people's blogs and I've realised I truly am doing absolutely nothing with my life.

To some people it may seem like going to college is a big deal and actually something important. I would agree if I were going to college for something that I'm actually passionate about, something I sincerely want to do. But no, I'm in engineering (yuck!) and really doing nothing else.

I go to school and sit in a classroom with people I don't necessarily like for seven hours a day. I don't find anything respectable about that. If they, at least, were classes I like, then I would have absolutely no issues with anything but, really? I mean, I've always loved Math but I am done with it. I'm done with Physics, I'm done with Electronics, I'm done with that school.

People think I'm a pessimist and bring myself down because I say that if I drop out, then I'll have nothing to do. I am not a pessimist. I'm broke, I can't do anything else. Art school is extremely expensive, and even if I got a job, a scholarship and a loan, it is still too fucking much money. The fact that I live in a city where it's all basically about administrative majors, engineering or commerce doesn't help much either.

I see all these wonderful people doing a bunch of things like going to fashion school, art school, music school - stuff I really am passionate about - and may not know a lot about, but when you have passion for something (at least this is how it works with me) you even enjoy all the hard work and long days. Needless to say I am not even a bit passionate about electronics.

All the drama previous to July of this year is gone. I sincerely do not even care about those people anymore. My state has absolutely nothing to do with people. It's simply the frustration I experience with myself and the fact that (at the expense of sounding very, very, very ungrateful and wrong) I live in this city.

I need some stimulation and I know a lot of people will be disappointed if I drop out of school - more weight on my shoulders. I'm sincerely lost again (for different reasons as before, clearly). I have no idea what I could do about this situation. I guess the closest thing I have to something "artsy" is an Architecture program, but I don't think that's going to satisfy me, either.

I'm really powerless right now. More than powerless, I feel helpless.

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Wow, I feel like you described 50% of my college experience. I wish you could find a major that you enjoyed more, because when you hate what you're studying, going to class is torture...But I would definitely advise you to finish school! More doors are open for you with a degree. Maybe you could work a few years before you save up enough to follow your dreams. That's kind of what I'm trying to do now
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Reply #49 posted 09/04/09 7:52am

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I suppose everyone needs to vent now and again but before I begin to take what I have for granted, I think about the millions of victims of war and children in third world countries that don't even have food or water. It helps you assess your feelings and makes you put things into better perspective and appreciate what you do have and have the opportunity to achieve, like an education, unlike millions of others.
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Reply #50 posted 09/04/09 8:17am

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babooshleeky said:

Nothinbutjoy said:




You and I think so much alike! lol

hug





I can relate to Miguel's post as well...
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Reply #51 posted 09/04/09 8:25am

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connorhawke said:

Question to Sir Alej.

When you talk about something artistic, do you actually have a picture in your mind? I mean, can you see yourself as a glass sculptor or a painter or composer?

If you can actually see yourself doing something (I mean actually really picture yourself doing it day in and day out with a big fat smile on your face) what you need to do is keep that in the forefront of your mind and work towards it.

I say this for a couple of reasons. The first one is you have to eat and to eat requires sacrifice. Unless you luck out and hook up with a millionaire philanthropist, that is. smile (At 33 still waiting for mine)

My 'career' (for want of a better word) has been very odd. I left home and school at seventeen out of necessity and have done some shitty jobs. I've also done some very good ones but none of them has really fulfilled my passions. Somewhere along the way I actually lost my passions and it really created a stale robotic feeling to my life. After rediscovering them and starting to do things as hobbies that I love, I find that what I do in my work life doesn't make me unhappy any more. As long as there is enough job satisfaction and your work doesn't suck all of the life out of you and leave you a semi-animated husk, you can funnel your energy into what you love. Then, if things are right for you, one day you'll be able to make the switch to what you really love.

btw you sound like you have ten times the common sense I had at your age. More power to you, my friend! hug



I really can see myself doing it and a few other thangs lurking lol

But I've given this a lot of thought. I started school, now I have to finish - even if I don't really love it but disbelief idk.

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Reply #52 posted 09/04/09 8:27am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

babooshleeky said:






I can relate to Miguel's post as well...
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We're triplets!


That's hot.
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Reply #53 posted 09/04/09 8:27am

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MacDaddy said:

Hey handsome,

You will get there eventually. Sometimes it seems that you've run out of all options. Remember you're still young, you will get plenty of opportunities. Maybe not as soon as you'd like but it will happen.

Focus on what you really want, make a plan, don't let anything get in the way of that plan. Forget all the obstacles and treat your ideas/wishes as if nothing is standing in its way.

Good luck mister!


hug thanks.
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Reply #54 posted 09/04/09 8:29am

Alej

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thekidsgirl said:

Alej said:

Hey, guys. I've been dealing with this for a couple of weeks now but today I'm just so mad at myself. I was going through some videos on youtube and some other people's blogs and I've realised I truly am doing absolutely nothing with my life.

To some people it may seem like going to college is a big deal and actually something important. I would agree if I were going to college for something that I'm actually passionate about, something I sincerely want to do. But no, I'm in engineering (yuck!) and really doing nothing else.

I go to school and sit in a classroom with people I don't necessarily like for seven hours a day. I don't find anything respectable about that. If they, at least, were classes I like, then I would have absolutely no issues with anything but, really? I mean, I've always loved Math but I am done with it. I'm done with Physics, I'm done with Electronics, I'm done with that school.

People think I'm a pessimist and bring myself down because I say that if I drop out, then I'll have nothing to do. I am not a pessimist. I'm broke, I can't do anything else. Art school is extremely expensive, and even if I got a job, a scholarship and a loan, it is still too fucking much money. The fact that I live in a city where it's all basically about administrative majors, engineering or commerce doesn't help much either.

I see all these wonderful people doing a bunch of things like going to fashion school, art school, music school - stuff I really am passionate about - and may not know a lot about, but when you have passion for something (at least this is how it works with me) you even enjoy all the hard work and long days. Needless to say I am not even a bit passionate about electronics.

All the drama previous to July of this year is gone. I sincerely do not even care about those people anymore. My state has absolutely nothing to do with people. It's simply the frustration I experience with myself and the fact that (at the expense of sounding very, very, very ungrateful and wrong) I live in this city.

I need some stimulation and I know a lot of people will be disappointed if I drop out of school - more weight on my shoulders. I'm sincerely lost again (for different reasons as before, clearly). I have no idea what I could do about this situation. I guess the closest thing I have to something "artsy" is an Architecture program, but I don't think that's going to satisfy me, either.

I'm really powerless right now. More than powerless, I feel helpless.

sad



Wow, I feel like you described 50% of my college experience. I wish you could find a major that you enjoyed more, because when you hate what you're studying, going to class is torture...But I would definitely advise you to finish school! More doors are open for you with a degree. Maybe you could work a few years before you save up enough to follow your dreams. That's kind of what I'm trying to do now



That's what my mom keeps telling me. And yes, going to class is torture sometimes. Although I am feeling a bit better today nod hug
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Reply #55 posted 09/04/09 6:08pm

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>If you went my son, I would make a consultation with a good astrologer and it would evaluate which the possibilities / orientations written in the base of your native theme;

>It cannot be a consultation with an onlooker, but qualified people exist, studious of the astrological science that can help
>For me, the astrology works as an auxiliary; there are no magic incomes, everything depends on your free will.. it certifies you in the astrologer's qualification! they exist many curious in these knowledge areas; it's necessary to be careful(don't enter to see in Net on this subject)!

>And you ned to be, above all, skeptic: not to believe without filtering; in it finishes the judgement of the situation will be always of the own interested party in solving the his star

>Patience; it can just be a difficult traffic, that goal to the proof your answer capacity; for norm the change cycles or test to our learning (or of what we needed to know to file edges and to follow our road) they are done of 25 in 25 years.... but cycles that have to be appraised individually, although some aspects areare of generation (as the one of Uranus)

>Tries to evaluate under this prism: you can have many pleasant surprises, or no, but same those will always be to improve the knowledge on us own.

idea for you build yours star
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