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Thread started 09/03/09 11:37am

Evvy

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When Celebrities Die...

should their admirers who may have loved them more than family memers did, be allowed to mourn alongside the family or should it be a private affair? should the family profit by doing interviews-showing rare footage and allowing cameras into a funeral?

i remember Princess Di had two- a private and public-

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn? and i'm not talking about vicarously thru CNN helicopters....i'm talking about open invites.
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Reply #1 posted 09/03/09 11:47am

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A lot of people have had that, where you could pay your respects to this or that person. But ultimately it's up to their family. They can have as many or as few people as they please.

I think with a Princess Di, there is a sense that royalty actually belongs to the people to some degree, and they are owed the opportunity to be a part. Same with Michael Jackson. But the sheer number of people becomes an issue. If it was my brother, I would have no desire for screaming girls to be there with me.
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Reply #2 posted 09/03/09 11:49am

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I don't think fans and admirers should expect the right to attend funeral or memorial services, but those that are should understand and respect what a difficult time it is for the people who actually knew and loved said star.
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Reply #3 posted 09/03/09 11:55am

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Evvy said:

should their admirers who may have loved them more than family memers did, be allowed to mourn alongside the family or should it be a private affair? should the family profit by doing interviews-showing rare footage and allowing cameras into a funeral?

i remember Princess Di had two- a private and public-

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn? and i'm not talking about vicarously thru CNN helicopters....i'm talking about open invites.


Dude, are you serious?

You don't know them.

Get over it.
It's what you make it.
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Reply #4 posted 09/03/09 12:05pm

Evvy

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PunkMistress said:

Evvy said:

should their admirers who may have loved them more than family memers did, be allowed to mourn alongside the family or should it be a private affair? should the family profit by doing interviews-showing rare footage and allowing cameras into a funeral?

i remember Princess Di had two- a private and public-

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn? and i'm not talking about vicarously thru CNN helicopters....i'm talking about open invites.


Dude, are you serious?

You don't know them.

Get over it.



it's easy to say get over it- but sometimes a person's death is devastating for you- even if you have not "personally" known them. I pity the fanatics that don't get to say a proper good bye- its heartbreaking for me to watch them...

so your "get over it" means nothing
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Reply #5 posted 09/03/09 1:31pm

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meow85 said:

I don't think fans and admirers should expect the right to attend funeral or memorial services, but those that are should understand and respect what a difficult time it is for the people who actually knew and loved said star.

Well said!
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Reply #6 posted 09/03/09 1:41pm

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I would love to be able to possibly pay my respects,and leave flowers for Michael,but unfortunately not everyone can be respectful,and not over the top,therefore nobody gets to.

And no I would'nt expect to be able to take part at a celebrities funeral,that I believe should be for the family only.
[Edited 9/3/09 13:43pm]
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Reply #7 posted 09/03/09 1:56pm

uPtoWnNY

Evvy said:

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn?


Those kind of fans need therapy.
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Reply #8 posted 09/03/09 1:57pm

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

Evvy said:

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn?


Those kind of fans need therapy.

.....and an ass kicking.
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Reply #9 posted 09/03/09 2:05pm

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no. how the family of a deceased person chooses to grieve is their choice, not the public's. this is why we have public vigils and tributes.
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Reply #10 posted 09/03/09 2:08pm

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PunkMistress said:

Evvy said:

should their admirers who may have loved them more than family memers did, be allowed to mourn alongside the family or should it be a private affair? should the family profit by doing interviews-showing rare footage and allowing cameras into a funeral?

i remember Princess Di had two- a private and public-

..but shouldnt the beloved fans who would cut off their right arm for a celebrity get to privately mourn? and i'm not talking about vicarously thru CNN helicopters....i'm talking about open invites.


Dude, are you serious?

You don't know them.

Get over it.


Thank you.
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Reply #11 posted 09/03/09 2:12pm

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Celebrity families need to mourn alone, we are only intruders that pay the celebrities their salary.
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Reply #12 posted 09/03/09 2:14pm

Evvy

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:



Those kind of fans need therapy.

.....and an ass kicking.

and what if it was the president- would his admirers need an ass kickin fpr wanting to mourn like a family member?
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Reply #13 posted 09/03/09 2:17pm

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Evvy said:

Graycap23 said:


.....and an ass kicking.

and what if it was the president- would his admirers need an ass kickin fpr wanting to mourn like a family member?

The President is a man.....just like every other man. That said, it would be 4 show and politics which is a symbolic gesture 2 the public. Different situation and 4 a much different PURPOSE.
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Reply #14 posted 09/03/09 3:12pm

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:



Those kind of fans need therapy.

.....and an ass kicking.


This is what the hell I'm saying.

You're delusional if you think consumers of an artist's work "love them more than their family members do."

DELUSIONAL.
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Reply #15 posted 09/03/09 3:49pm

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PunkMistress said:

Graycap23 said:


.....and an ass kicking.


This is what the hell I'm saying.

You're delusional if you think consumers of an artist's work "love them more than their family members do."

DELUSIONAL.


Indeed, I'm sure William and Harry, the Jacksons and whoe ever would be very offended at this sort of talk.
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Reply #16 posted 09/04/09 7:31am

Evvy

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JDInteractive said:

PunkMistress said:



This is what the hell I'm saying.

You're delusional if you think consumers of an artist's work "love them more than their family members do."

DELUSIONAL.


Indeed, I'm sure William and Harry, the Jacksons and whoe ever would be very offended at this sort of talk.

i think it's an honor
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Reply #17 posted 09/04/09 7:33am

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Evvy said:

JDInteractive said:



Indeed, I'm sure William and Harry, the Jacksons and whoe ever would be very offended at this sort of talk.

i think it's an honor


For whom?
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Reply #18 posted 09/04/09 7:36am

Evvy

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PunkMistress said:

Evvy said:


i think it's an honor


For whom?

taken from non-music:


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the family- its a form of support- one expects family to be there but complete strangers that open their hearts in your time of need.... indescribable
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Reply #19 posted 09/04/09 7:50am

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In their minds and spirits, folk form very important connections with celebrities through their work. I'm not one who thinks such connections -- or the grief they might feel at the celeb's death -- are artificial or second-tier. BUT most of us live in a social environment where if the deceased hasn't made definitive plans, immediate families and loved ones decide over burial, funerary and memorial services. I think their oversight should be respected, and none of us beyond those circles are truly owed anything.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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