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Reply #30 posted 09/03/09 9:36am

angelcat

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alcohol is a very serious drug and like any drug can get a grip of you. it is so destructive, not only to your health but to the relationships in your life.

my father is an alcoholic and has gone beyond the point of rescue in his addiction. it has consumed him and any chance he had for happiness in this life.

don't let that happen to you, you seem to be aware that there may be a problem, step back and as zombie says if you can't stop on your own, get help.

drinking in the morning is never good.

i wish you all the best. hug
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Reply #31 posted 09/03/09 9:37am

sinisterpentat
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Tyrone will break it down for you. nod

btw, you spell Alcohol the same way he pronounces it.
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Reply #32 posted 09/03/09 9:42am

DanceWme

Im not the one to be giving advice or anything, but I wish u all the best hug


can i have that bag of weed u didnt touch in two weeks?
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Reply #33 posted 09/03/09 9:42am

sinisterpentat
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DanceWme said:




can i have that bag of weed u didnt touch in two weeks?


lol
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Reply #34 posted 09/03/09 9:43am

nyse

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sinister
lol....I needed a laugh biggrin

-angelcat- your very sweet wink
wish your family the best....your right drinking in the morning is
kind of a sign of a problem
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Reply #35 posted 09/03/09 9:44am

angelcat

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nyse said:

^^^^^
lol....I needed a laugh biggrin

-angelcat- your very sweet wink
wish your family the best....your right drinking in the morning is
kind of a sign of a problem



hug thanks.
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Reply #36 posted 09/03/09 9:47am

nyse

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DanceWme said:

Im not the one to be giving advice or anything, but I wish u all the best hug


can i have that bag of weed u didnt touch in two weeks?



wave weed
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Reply #37 posted 09/03/09 9:54am

CarrieLee

Everything in moderation...that's what I say. You clearly have a problem if you have to drink to talk to people. Get help.
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Reply #38 posted 09/03/09 10:07am

nyse

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CarrieLee said:

Everything in moderation...that's what I say. You clearly have a problem if you have to drink to talk to people. Get help.

your right...but I don't believe in "getting help"...I much rather help myself.
but thats the hard part

IDK folks in rhode island got me goimg krazy....
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Reply #39 posted 09/03/09 10:12am

CarrieLee

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CarrieLee said:

Everything in moderation...that's what I say. You clearly have a problem if you have to drink to talk to people. Get help.

your right...but I don't believe in "getting help"...I much rather help myself.
but thats the hard part

IDK folks in rhode island got me goimg krazy....



Shit, I forgot you lived here lol Stay out of Jerkys, they won't help you with your problem!

Seriously you know you have an issue with it so if you can't make yourself stop then you need help. A couple beers and some smoke on the weekend is fine, but if you have to do it to talk to people you have a problem. There is nothing to be ashamed of and there are plenty of places to go to and get help. Sometimes just listening to others in an AA meeting can help.
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Reply #40 posted 09/03/09 10:31am

nyse

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CarrieLee said:


Shit, I forgot you lived here lol Stay out of Jerkys, they won't help you with your problem!

Seriously you know you have an issue with it so if you can't make yourself stop then you need help. A couple beers and some smoke on the weekend is fine, but if you have to do it to talk to people you have a problem. There is nothing to be ashamed of and there are plenty of places to go to and get help. Sometimes just listening to others in an AA meeting can help.


good looking out carrie...I like ur style. your mad down 2 earth.
I have two shows at jerky's latter this week so, the guiness will be flowing.
eek there I go...speaking about the devil mad

when things are not going my way, I need to find something else other than the

absolut 2 resort to....
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Reply #41 posted 09/03/09 10:53am

virginie74

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virginie74 said:

I won't blame you.

I've been an alcoholic for 7 years, and a drug user as well.

First, congratulations cuz if you talk about it you are already able to face it and get out of this.

Two, you are losing your time and your money. If you ever have the guts to turn your back to alcohol and drugs, you will see how much time and energy you spent for nothing. Yes, in my opinion is self destruction, and maybe you should go further and ask for some medical help.

Three, you're the boss. I find you very unattractive in that movie, well, you're drunk. But you are the only leader of your life, and it's up to you to make it the way you want it to be.

I wish you the best.


this is what I was looking for smile some one who can relate...and has cunquered
this problem...I realy thank you for opening up. I know it was hard 2 get over it....Was it a long process?? or did u stop on a dime? did u seek medical help?

I don't believe in the medical stuff...If I stop it will be on my own.
the purpose of me posting that video is just 2 show the actual effect on me..
but some think i posted it just for vein purposes so I deleted it...
much love and grace



Well, thanks.

Okay.

When I saw addiction was leading me to a way of life I didn't want for myself, I went to doctors and told them : "I'm an addict. Help me."

This is the hard part you have to deal with, cuz you have to put your pride in your pocket. Thinking you will stop on your own is fake. Bs. Whatever you call it.


You say : "if" I stop... so you didn't take your decision yet.

As I told you, you're the boss.

And yes it was difficult. I stopped almost 5 years ago and changed my way of life. I can have a drink or two with family or friends, I can have a social life. But the scars are here, and nothing will bring back the years I spent in alcohol.
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Reply #42 posted 09/03/09 10:57am

LeCram

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nyse said:

LeCram said:

nyse said:

English is not my native language and Google gives me a hard time with this.
to make sure understand what you type:

did you meant to say that when you are around people you feel a lot of tension?
If so i can relate to that. i'm familiar with a social phobia. reefer and alcohol is contra productive.

I'm curious. do you have suicidal thoughts?


thats exactly what i'm speaking of...I feel alot of tension around others.
so the alchahol get me loose so to speak...

I never have serious suicidal thoughts...I do think about death.
but never me hurting myself....I respect U taking ur time out 2 talk 2 me.
I appreciate your honest... opinion



thinking about death is common among people like me. but with the use of alcohol and or drugs it can become worse. I'm not a professional therapist, but from what i know from experience and what i see, i recommend you to make contact with one.
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Reply #43 posted 09/03/09 11:03am

NDRU

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Be careful with the Extacy, I had a terrible reaction after only one time. But my friends had similar reactions after doing a lot of it regularly--panic attacks, depression, etc. The feeling you get when you're on it is balanced by the crash afterward, especially the more you do it and the older you get.

I also had a pretty bad problem smoking pot. I smoked first thing in the morning & last thing at night & all moments in between. It's like alcohol. It depends on the person. I have no problem with drinking, but I know plenty of people who do.

The hard part about stopping all of it is that being sober seems boring (even scary, and you don't even know why that is!), but it is the most lasting high once you get used to it. The peaks that come are real, not artificially induced. They come because stuff in your life is working out. And there is no crash afterward.
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Reply #44 posted 09/03/09 11:58am

CarrieLee

NDRU said:

Be careful with the Extacy, I had a terrible reaction after only one time. But my friends had similar reactions after doing a lot of it regularly--panic attacks, depression, etc. The feeling you get when you're on it is balanced by the crash afterward, especially the more you do it and the older you get.

I also had a pretty bad problem smoking pot. I smoked first thing in the morning & last thing at night & all moments in between. It's like alcohol. It depends on the person. I have no problem with drinking, but I know plenty of people who do.

The hard part about stopping all of it is that being sober seems boring (even scary, and you don't even know why that is!), but it is the most lasting high once you get used to it. The peaks that come are real, not artificially induced. They come because stuff in your life is working out. And there is no crash afterward.



I think a good substitution is working out. You can't be high or drunk while doing it, but if you do it for long enough you get a natural high and it becomes addictive. I started running again and I feel sooooo good. Especially after quitting smoking for 3 months.

I do like my wine...hell I'll throw back 2 bottles myself on a weekend but that's kind of my reward for being so good during the week.
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Reply #45 posted 09/03/09 12:06pm

NDRU

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CarrieLee said:

NDRU said:

Be careful with the Extacy, I had a terrible reaction after only one time. But my friends had similar reactions after doing a lot of it regularly--panic attacks, depression, etc. The feeling you get when you're on it is balanced by the crash afterward, especially the more you do it and the older you get.

I also had a pretty bad problem smoking pot. I smoked first thing in the morning & last thing at night & all moments in between. It's like alcohol. It depends on the person. I have no problem with drinking, but I know plenty of people who do.

The hard part about stopping all of it is that being sober seems boring (even scary, and you don't even know why that is!), but it is the most lasting high once you get used to it. The peaks that come are real, not artificially induced. They come because stuff in your life is working out. And there is no crash afterward.



I think a good substitution is working out. You can't be high or drunk while doing it, but if you do it for long enough you get a natural high and it becomes addictive. I started running again and I feel sooooo good. Especially after quitting smoking for 3 months.

I do like my wine...hell I'll throw back 2 bottles myself on a weekend but that's kind of my reward for being so good during the week.


yeah, definitely people turn to exercise & god after drugs! But I actually used to jog more when I smoked pot--even right afterward! Strange, isn't it?

But you are right, running creates more of a true high, and it's hard to do it when you're feeling hung over, unhealthy, worn out, etc.
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Reply #46 posted 09/03/09 12:08pm

NDRU

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I saw a video of John Fruciante (red hot chili pepper who was strung out on crack & heroin) and he said that when he sobered up that he noticed that he might have made a dozen people smile during a week, where when he was high he might not have made a single person smile in a year.

He said that making someone smile is not an instant high like crack, but it builds up over time and over the long run it makes you feel better.
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Reply #47 posted 09/03/09 12:35pm

novabrkr

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It seems you need alcohol and drugs to function normally and to feel good.
That's a major sign of being an addict.


Or Scandinavian.
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Reply #48 posted 09/03/09 1:37pm

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One of the hardest parts of quitting drugs is the feeling that you are going to be less cool when you have to say no, or that you are getting old, or that the cool phase of your life has passed.

But put that aside. People who have drug problems are far cooler when they are sober. Only your junkie friends will act like you're less cool for doing the right thing.
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Reply #49 posted 09/03/09 1:38pm

CarrieLee

NDRU said:

One of the hardest parts of quitting drugs is the feeling that you are going to be less cool when you have to say no, or that you are getting old, or that the cool phase of your life has passed.

But put that aside. People who have drug problems are far cooler when they are sober. Only your junkie friends will act like you're less cool for doing the right thing.



Fuck that whole 'coolness' factor...my health means more! I'm too old to care about that shit anyway!
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Reply #50 posted 09/03/09 1:43pm

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CarrieLee said:

NDRU said:

One of the hardest parts of quitting drugs is the feeling that you are going to be less cool when you have to say no, or that you are getting old, or that the cool phase of your life has passed.

But put that aside. People who have drug problems are far cooler when they are sober. Only your junkie friends will act like you're less cool for doing the right thing.



Fuck that whole 'coolness' factor...my health means more! I'm too old to care about that shit anyway!


You mean you're too cool to care! cool

But I think it is a real unspoken concern. I think drugs are part of image to some extent. We might think our favorite musicians were cooler before they got sober but their lives were falling apart.

And like you say, what's more important?
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Reply #51 posted 09/03/09 1:46pm

kimrachell

my uncle is addicted to drugs, and a very heavy drinker. over the last several years my entire family has watched him ruin everything he worked hard to build in life, and nearly die in a drinking and driving accident where he hit a tree head on in his truck. sad he's been arrested, been in jail more times than i can remember! neutral and we've all tried everything we know to help him, but nothing works! i am truly worried, because i am just dreading the day when i get the call that he's dead! sad he's that far gone. before his addiction issues he had a good life, served in the military, was a well known chef at a posh resturant in bev. hills, ca., now he's living with my grandma in a 1 bedroom apt. sleeping on her sofa, no job, no girlfriend, on parole, etc....don't let this happen to your life! it's not worth it!! you can still turn it all around and sober up and lead a productive life. rose
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Reply #52 posted 09/03/09 2:12pm

virginie74

Only the one addicted can seek help for himself, unfortunatly or not.
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Reply #53 posted 09/03/09 2:14pm

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virginie74 said:

Only the one addicted can seek help for himself, unfortunatly or not.

so true. nod
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Reply #54 posted 09/03/09 2:22pm

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and we've all tried everything we know to help him, but nothing works!


That's the most frustrating part for family, close friends etc. with all the best intentions, motivations. The only one who can help him, is himself only.

it's the 1st and mayby most crucial step to take is to admit there is a problem.
As long he will not do that. i'm sorry to say, nothing will work.
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Reply #55 posted 09/03/09 2:38pm

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Also, you're still young so it hasn't affected your looks yet. But if you keep going like you are it will eventually catch up to you and 10-15 years from now you'll look in the mirror and think "Damn, what happened to me?"
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Reply #56 posted 09/03/09 2:40pm

virginie74

So true.
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Reply #57 posted 09/03/09 3:52pm

JDInteractive

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JustErin said:

Are you drunk now?


lol
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #58 posted 09/04/09 11:48am

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Nysey... cry
We only know each other from here but I feel like we're friends and I felt so sad readin your post.
I know you're lookin for encouragement and I will orgnote u, but for now I feel too sad knowin the details of your situations hug
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #59 posted 09/04/09 2:42pm

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I've never had a problem with drinking, but I was raised by an alcoholic, and recognize the signs. Dude, drinking in the morning and before going to work are sure signs you might need some help.

Now the drugs, when I was in my late teens and early 20's I didn't go anywhere or even have my eyes open when I wasn't high. I smoked weed morning, noon and night. Went to work high everyday, got high on breaks, you name it. Getting married was what got me straightened out. My wife just wouldn't have it, so I quit. Realized after I quit I didn't need it like I thought I did. Don't get me wrong I get a good prescription every now and then and take the hell out of whatever it is, stay fucked up till all the pills are gone, but then that is it. I don't go looking for more after that. May seem a little strange, but that's how I roll.
If you're not doing the fucking, then you're taking one.
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