johnart said: hokie said: I LOVE when people that don't have children say what they will and won't do once they have them. You're gonna be eating your words on stuff. I promise. And if a crying kid bothers you that much that you'd leave the store then I say don't let the door hit you on the way out. I agree you should try and avoid taking a kid out when they're tired or hungry, but life is just not that simple sometimes. If you're in a store and your kid is hungry, it's very simple to grab a snack bar off a shelf pop it in the kids mouth (keep the wrapper and pay for it of course). Folk don't just run into stores with cryin kids to pick up something quickly. Some do leisure shoppin and they tune out their kids. I've seen folk tryin on clothes and shit. That's just some bullshit. Yes...I have too. These instances are bad. But, kids are really unpredictable. I just am talking about those times when you think you've covered all your bases and your kids flips out. When I was married I was alone all the time. I didn't have family that I could leave my kids with every time I wanted to go to the store. I certainly could not afford (nor should I have to pay someone to watch them) to hire someone every time I needed to go out. Sometimes you just have to do what you need to do. | |
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japanrocks said: i do not know why
but i find this story funny and the guy's face is priceless because he looks just like i thought he would I thought the same thing It isn't the load that breaks us down, it's the way we carry it. | |
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hokie said: johnart said: If you're in a store and your kid is hungry, it's very simple to grab a snack bar off a shelf pop it in the kids mouth (keep the wrapper and pay for it of course). Folk don't just run into stores with cryin kids to pick up something quickly. Some do leisure shoppin and they tune out their kids. I've seen folk tryin on clothes and shit. That's just some bullshit. Yes...I have too. These instances are bad. But, kids are really unpredictable. I just am talking about those times when you think you've covered all your bases and your kids flips out. When I was married I was alone all the time. I didn't have family that I could leave my kids with every time I wanted to go to the store. I certainly could not afford (nor should I have to pay someone to watch them) to hire someone every time I needed to go out. Sometimes you just have to do what you need to do. i'd rather give a 16 year old 25 bucks to sit with my kids for a few hours and do all grocery shopping... -it's not every time you go out- hokie you have kids yoou know what i'm talkin about- don't hate because you couldnt or didnt think to give yourself and those kids a break from spending all day running mommies errands.... I agree with johnart that's BS- and trust me I'm not gonna cry if I need to be told so on behalf of any of my future brats. parents get so-ugghhh when you say something about their lil crumb snatchers- it gets ridiculous at times LOVE HARD. | |
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It says the victim suffered slight redness to his face. | |
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Evvy said: hokie said: Yes...I have too. These instances are bad. But, kids are really unpredictable. I just am talking about those times when you think you've covered all your bases and your kids flips out. When I was married I was alone all the time. I didn't have family that I could leave my kids with every time I wanted to go to the store. I certainly could not afford (nor should I have to pay someone to watch them) to hire someone every time I needed to go out. Sometimes you just have to do what you need to do. i'd rather give a 16 year old 25 bucks to sit with my kids for a few hours and do all grocery shopping... -it's not every time you go out- hokie you have kids yoou know what i'm talkin about- don't hate because you couldnt or didnt think to give yourself and those kids a break from spending all day running mommies errands.... I agree with johnart that's BS- and trust me I'm not gonna cry if I need to be told so on behalf of any of my future brats. parents get so-ugghhh when you say something about their lil crumb snatchers- it gets ridiculous at times Well some of us can't afford to do that. I am not going to argue with you. I just don't think that anyone that doesn't have kids really can't understand what it's really like until you do have them. I hope that you're able to pay someone to sit with your kids. That's great. I got left by my husband and am struggling. I cannot afford to do that. Things just aren't that black and white. If I am able to give them a break I do. But, it's just not always practical or feasible. | |
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hokie said: Evvy said: i'd rather give a 16 year old 25 bucks to sit with my kids for a few hours and do all grocery shopping... -it's not every time you go out- hokie you have kids yoou know what i'm talkin about- don't hate because you couldnt or didnt think to give yourself and those kids a break from spending all day running mommies errands.... I agree with johnart that's BS- and trust me I'm not gonna cry if I need to be told so on behalf of any of my future brats. parents get so-ugghhh when you say something about their lil crumb snatchers- it gets ridiculous at times Well some of us can't afford to do that. I am not going to argue with you. I just don't think that anyone that doesn't have kids really can't understand what it's really like until you do have them. I hope that you're able to pay someone to sit with your kids. That's great. I got left by my husband and am struggling. I cannot afford to do that. Things just aren't that black and white. If I am able to give them a break I do. But, it's just not always practical or feasible. sorry about my tone - I know parenting is hard- like i said i work with kids everyday. I just need my peace at the store LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: hokie said: Well some of us can't afford to do that. I am not going to argue with you. I just don't think that anyone that doesn't have kids really can't understand what it's really like until you do have them. I hope that you're able to pay someone to sit with your kids. That's great. I got left by my husband and am struggling. I cannot afford to do that. Things just aren't that black and white. If I am able to give them a break I do. But, it's just not always practical or feasible. sorry about my tone - I know parenting is hard- like i said i work with kids everyday. I just need my peace at the store Jill, I know there are moments of unpredictability. We were foster parents to a deeply troubled child (I've mentioned this before). Believe me, I know. There were times where I was in a store grocery shopping and all hell broke loose. And trust me, it's difficult to have the confidence to discipline a child that looks nothing like you (fair skinned blond/blue eyed) in public. I was always afraid someone was gonna call cops and say I'd kidnapped him. But I can honestly say I never prolonged the experience for those around me, who did not ask to be in the presence of me and the screaming child. That was my choice. Not giving you a hard time, just giving my personal take on things. | |
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Evvy said: hokie said: Well some of us can't afford to do that. I am not going to argue with you. I just don't think that anyone that doesn't have kids really can't understand what it's really like until you do have them. I hope that you're able to pay someone to sit with your kids. That's great. I got left by my husband and am struggling. I cannot afford to do that. Things just aren't that black and white. If I am able to give them a break I do. But, it's just not always practical or feasible. sorry about my tone - I know parenting is hard- like i said i work with kids everyday. I just need my peace at the store It's OK. The internet is tricky sometimes. | |
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johnart said: Evvy said: sorry about my tone - I know parenting is hard- like i said i work with kids everyday. I just need my peace at the store Jill, I know there are moments of unpredictability. We were foster parents to a deeply troubled child (I've mentioned this before). Believe me, I know. There were times where I was in a store grocery shopping and all hell broke loose. And trust me, it's difficult to have the confidence to discipline a child that looks nothing like you (fair skinned blond/blue eyed) in public. I was always afraid someone was gonna call cops and say I'd kidnapped him. But I can honestly say I never prolonged the experience for those around me, who did not ask to be in the presence of me and the screaming child. That was my choice. Not giving you a hard time, just giving my personal take on things. I know. I think we're saying the same thing. Or at least I'm thinking the same thing you're saying. I DO absolutely agree that there are situations that require a kid to be disciplined. I have not ever let either of my kids scream uncontrollably and then act like it's not happening. Believe me, I have disciplined my kids in stores. They've been taken out of the store or to the bathroom for a talking to or whatever. | |
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RodeoSchro said: Evvy said: Just cruel and terrible-
...but.... people really should not drag their children out shopping when they are tired and or hungry- thats cruel as well. I work with children all day- when I go shopping I can't tolerate a screaming child- I will walk away from my cart and leave the store ..when I do have kids I vow to not drag them around on my errands ...i'll find a teen-ager or family member to sit with them for a couple hours- I baby sat as a teen-ager for a family who did not believe in that either...it's just as cruel as spanking them LOL, every future parent says that, along with the infamous "MY child will NEVER have a snotty nose!" Good luck, if you accomplish either of these things then you'll be the first parent in history that did! we all think our children will be perfect when in fact all kids are the same... unpredictable. | |
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ugh. i recently had a 7 + 13 hour flight with my 2yo daughter...she was good for the most part. but she stayed up all 13hrs on the way home and things started getting bad towards the end, didn't help i didn't sleep in the last 36 hours.
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sinisterpentatonic said: ugh. i recently had a 7 + 13 hour flight with my 2yo daughter...she was good for the most part. but she stayed up all 13hrs on the way home and things started getting bad towards the end, didn't help i sleep in the last 36 hours.
You should have beat her. | |
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Graycap23 said: This is just wrong.....
A Gwinnett County man is in custody Wednesday accused of slapping a stranger’s crying toddler in a Stone Mountain Wal-Mart. http://www.ajc.com/news/g...29235.html http://prince.org/msg/100/317759 [Edited 9/2/09 10:45am] | |
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I went with my family to Disneyland 2 weekends ago, for some reason people take their newborns to Disneyland?? If you have a newborn, get a babysitter and leave them in a hotel. I could not tell you how annoying it was to be in a line with a screaming newborn. Now so do not get me wrong, I am a mother of 4, I know about taking your baby along, but to an amusement park?? | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said: I went with my family to Disneyland 2 weekends ago, for some reason people take their newborns to Disneyland?? If you have a newborn, get a babysitter and leave them in a hotel. I could not tell you how annoying it was to be in a line with a screaming newborn. Now so do not get me wrong, I am a mother of 4, I know about taking your baby along, but to an amusement park??
See? That shit RIGHT there is why I do not FUCK with amusement parks!!! Screaming bratty ass children do NOT AMUSE ME. "Torture park" is more like it. | |
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ScarletScandal said: PaisleyPark5083 said: I went with my family to Disneyland 2 weekends ago, for some reason people take their newborns to Disneyland?? If you have a newborn, get a babysitter and leave them in a hotel. I could not tell you how annoying it was to be in a line with a screaming newborn. Now so do not get me wrong, I am a mother of 4, I know about taking your baby along, but to an amusement park??
See? That shit RIGHT there is why I do not FUCK with amusement parks!!! Screaming bratty ass children do NOT AMUSE ME. "Torture park" is more like it. It's even worse at movie theatres. | |
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Evvy said: RodeoSchro said: LOL, every future parent says that, along with the infamous "MY child will NEVER have a snotty nose!" Good luck, if you accomplish either of these things then you'll be the first parent in history that did! like I said- I work with kids everyday- take them on field trips, ects- infants toddlers pre-k- and if one of them was having a screaming tantrum it would be time to step out to the restroom- or minivan- I would not stay there and let that child crack someone elses nerve- now it's understandable when you take yourself to kid places- but at the store and in the mall- NO yours, mines, anybody's should not be allowed to tantrum out for an extended period of time and subject it to everyone else trying to shop in peace kids are not perfect and occasional crying and screaming even- is tolerable if it stops after a few minutes why is this so hard to wrap your mind around NO ONE WANTS TO HERE IT IN WALMART OR ANY OTHER PLACE OF SHOPPING!!!!!- AND THEY SHOUDN'T BE EXPECTED TO BE OK WITH IT.- dude-yes it happens but dont automaticaaly think its ok- just like that fool hitting that child- that wasnt ok I'm not saying it's OK. I'm saying it's impossible to raise kids without at least one (and probably more than one, no matter how hard you try) public meltdown by said kid. Not is it possible to raise a child and avoid at some point your child running around with dried snot under his/her nose. Every parent swears they're gonna be the one to avoid those things, but so far no parent ever has. If you do, you'll be the first! | |
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JustErin said: Evvy said: if your toddler is going off with a screaming tantrum for more than a couple of minutes- yes you should excuse yourself to the bathroom or outside to your car. NO ONE should be asked to hear that mess. I pray before I board each flight that I won't have to be subjected to a child screaming for 10 15 20 minutes at a time- now if the child was injured then compassion would kick in- but a tantrum- NO would you listen to a song that you hated on full blast for that long?... ...just my rant..... If things like this upset you, I'd hate to see you have to deal with real problems. Listen, no one likes to have to hear loud annoying anything, but when it's involving a parent that is just trying to get some errands done, while dealing with a child that is suddenly losing their shit...and you see that they are trying...I sure as hell don't look down on the parent and am also understanding that these things happen. A little bit of noise pollution like this is not gonna make me pissed off or ruin my day. I swear to god, if someone EVER put their hands on my child, they would get seriously fucked up. | |
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Man, some of the comments on this thread just crack me up. What the parents like me and Hokie are saying, versus what those of you who don't have kids are saying, is just priceless.
Hokie, you deserve a cold one! Lots of 'em, in fact! | |
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japanrocks said: i do not know why
but i find this story funny and the guy's face is priceless because he looks just like i thought he would Yeah, like an abusive asshole. | |
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angelcat said: RodeoSchro said: LOL, every future parent says that, along with the infamous "MY child will NEVER have a snotty nose!" Good luck, if you accomplish either of these things then you'll be the first parent in history that did! we all think our children will be perfect when in fact all kids are the same... unpredictable. You got it! The older I get, the smarter I realize MY parents were. | |
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Dude looks like a disney villian. | |
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ScarletScandal said: Dude looks like a disney villian. LMFAO so true! | |
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hokie said: sinisterpentatonic said: ugh. i recently had a 7 + 13 hour flight with my 2yo daughter...she was good for the most part. but she stayed up all 13hrs on the way home and things started getting bad towards the end, didn't help i sleep in the last 36 hours.
You should have beat her. i was contemplating throwing her off the plane. with a parachute of course. | |
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Imago said: Evvy said: i'd rather give a 16 year old 25 bucks to sit with my kids for a few hours and do all grocery shopping... -it's not every time you go out- hokie you have kids yoou know what i'm talkin about- don't hate because you couldnt or didnt think to give yourself and those kids a break from spending all day running mommies errands.... I agree with johnart that's BS- and trust me I'm not gonna cry if I need to be told so on behalf of any of my future brats. parents get so-ugghhh when you say something about their lil crumb snatchers- it gets ridiculous at times I do find it odd that if a child is screaming and just being bratty that another adult can't say, "you need to be quiet". Most parents I know would say, "HOw dare you tell me child to be quiet" even if the child was in a restaurant or a train screaming while everyone else around was being disturbed. Parents often get peived that their precious little ones aren't adored or tolerated by everybody else on the same level. But specific to this woman's case, what choices did she have? Like I said, she could have been rewarding the child by leaving the line. That would only reinforce bad behavior. The only time I would get peeved is if the person telling me what to do gave off the impression that they were somehow more important than my child. Guess what? To me they're NOT, so they can just meander off on another path and fuck off. | |
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sinisterpentatonic said: hokie said: You should have beat her. i was contemplating throwing her off the plane. with a parachute of course. You're such a good dad. | |
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Evvy said: Just cruel and terrible-
...but.... people really should not drag their children out shopping when they are tired and or hungry- thats cruel as well. I work with children all day- when I go shopping I can't tolerate a screaming child- I will walk away from my cart and leave the store ..when I do have kids I vow to not drag them around on my errands ...i'll find a teen-ager or family member to sit with them for a couple hours- I baby sat as a teen-ager for a family who did not believe in that either...it's just as cruel as spanking them No one likes to hear a screaming child while they're out in public, but some parents and other caregivers don't seem to understand or care that kids don't like shopping and will probably get fussy after a while. It's not fair to Junior to drag them on a big expedition to the mall and then get annoyed when they cry because they're tired or cranky or overstimulated or whatever. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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heybaby said: I read the article but all I really got past was "Man Slaps Stranger's crying kid"
I wish a somebody would put their hands on my child. I would be in jail. Period. I'M SAYIN'!! | |
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JustErin said: Evvy said: if your toddler is going off with a screaming tantrum for more than a couple of minutes- yes you should excuse yourself to the bathroom or outside to your car. NO ONE should be asked to hear that mess. I pray before I board each flight that I won't have to be subjected to a child screaming for 10 15 20 minutes at a time- now if the child was injured then compassion would kick in- but a tantrum- NO would you listen to a song that you hated on full blast for that long?... ...just my rant..... If things like this upset you, I'd hate to see you have to deal with real problems. Listen, no one likes to have to hear loud annoying anything, but when it's involving a parent that is just trying to get some errands done, while dealing with a child that is suddenly losing their shit...and you see that they are trying...I sure as hell don't look down on the parent and am also understanding that these things happen. A little bit of noise pollution like this is not gonna make me pissed off or ruin my day. It doesn't bother me if the parent is trying to deal with the noise and for whatever reason it's not working. Kids just cry sometimes. It's those people that just leave their kids to scream and ignore it that grate on my nerves. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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