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PrintableZinzi said: Vendetta1 said: You are a perfect example of the saying: those who do not know the past, are condemned to repeat it. Thank God you are not an American.
why is it better for me to be english? and what am i going to repeat? racial harmony? 
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Vendetta1 said: Zinzi said: knowledge? what he said was ignorant and talk english properly. all these ebonic 'ignint' words are anoying me 
Don't get heated because your ass got owned. owned by what? deliberate bad grammar? ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Vendetta1 said: Zinzi said: why is it better for me to be english? and what am i going to repeat? racial harmony?
oh my fucking god, you make this easy. why do you keep bringing my nationality into it? i dont believe black people or white people should act a certain way just because society tells them too oh no! the fall of an empire!!!!! ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: Vendetta1 said: Yeah, because the UK is a mecca of racial harmony.
oh my fucking god, you make this easy. why do you keep bringing my nationality into it? i dont believe black people or white people should act a certain way just because society tells them too oh no! the fall of an empire!!!!! | |
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And you're not going to be the one to bring racial harmony by claiming naivety because it just makes you look ignorant.
Exhibit A: This thread. | |
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Zinzi said: Vendetta1 said: No, what I said is not ignorant. I, unlike you, have actually cracked a book or two and know the history of black in America and by golly, I am actually a black WOMAN in America!!
Don't get heated because your ass got owned. owned by what? deliberate bad grammar? Seriously? Bad grammar is your rebuttal to getting owned on this thread?   | |
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Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless.
Vendetta1 said: you are clueless and are perfectly happy to be clueless. | |
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Cinnie. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Cinnie.
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Vendetta1 said: Zinzi said: why do you keep bringing my nationality into it? i dont believe black people or white people should act a certain way just because society tells them too oh no! the fall of an empire!!!!! i dont even read magazines and newspapers and i do not inherit the individual history of people from past as my own made story you cant say about racism in your country untill you live in every state. inevery town. and meetr every person in the counrty so you might aswell dismiss your own some white people hate you because of the color of your skin because they believe in stupid shit like ''protecting culture'' similar to you they believe they can judge a person on the colour of their skin because the 'steryotypical culture' condones that they are being fair if they tell you to go chuck a spear, according to you its not racist, its just being historically accurate seeing as what some black guy was doing in africa by his own choice a thousand years ago somehow inflicts it as your choice because you 'claim his culture' if im wearing glasses, at least they arent blocked out completely ass ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Cinnie said: Vendetta1 said: Cinnie.
There's joy in repetition its amazing what people will say over the internet but not up front ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: Cinnie said: There's joy in repetition its amazing what people will say over the internet but not up front I probably would have said way worse to your face. And I'm glad we didn't meet in person, because I am getting allergies from HERE. | |
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sinisterpentatonic said: funkpill said: you mean
no more Jet centerfolds?? 
 no more beauties of the week. i use to plaster those things around my wall when i was a kid.  Shit them centerfolds have been the black man's "Playboy" for over 50 years now. We pass 'em down from generation to generation he he [Edited 8/22/09 14:11pm] | |
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I subscribe to CMJ music. Last one was like 30 pages with no cd. Magazine are over. I also noticed it will cost like $300+ to resubscribe to CMJ but that will include passes to events. Not worth it for me too far away.
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Cinnie said: Zinzi said: its amazing what people will say over the internet but not up front I probably would have said way worse to your face. And I'm glad we didn't meet in person, because I am getting allergies from HERE. no you wouldn't have,believe me ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Cinnie said: And you're not going to be the one to bring racial harmony by claiming naivety because it just makes you look ignorant.
Exhibit A: This thread. theres no naivety, if anything me posting what i posted just pulled the blankets off of what other people think ebony jet magazine is about one contradicting the other, its quite funny actually ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: Cinnie said: And you're not going to be the one to bring racial harmony by claiming naivety because it just makes you look ignorant.
Exhibit A: This thread. theres no naivety, if anything me posting what i posted just pulled the blankets off of what other people think ebony jet magazine is about one contradicting the other, its quite funny actually what's funny is that you won't acknowledge that your nice little run as a troll in this thread is over. | |
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Zinzi said: Cinnie said: And you're not going to be the one to bring racial harmony by claiming naivety because it just makes you look ignorant.
Exhibit A: This thread. theres no naivety, if anything me posting what i posted just pulled the blankets off of what other people think ebony jet magazine is about one contradicting the other, its quite funny actually I'm so sorry that your daddy didn't love you, but I do look forward to your imminent banning.  | |
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Cinnie said: Zinzi said: theres no naivety, if anything me posting what i posted just pulled the blankets off of what other people think ebony jet magazine is about one contradicting the other, its quite funny actually what's funny is that you won't acknowledge that your nice little run as a troll in this thread is over. actually it ended ages ago, whatever trolling i was doing the last couple of posts have been me defending myself ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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PunkMistress said: Zinzi said: theres no naivety, if anything me posting what i posted just pulled the blankets off of what other people think ebony jet magazine is about one contradicting the other, its quite funny actually I'm so sorry that your daddy didn't love you, but I do look forward to your imminent banning. well thats just disrespect to people whos daddys actually didnt love them if anyone should be banned its people who patronize children who have been abused ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: Imago said: Again, you're really not paying any attention. Are you just trolling?
Magazines don't have to say "nigger" to print an article that is detrimental to black people. They simply have to spin. And spin works, it gets political involvement, and creates change--not always for the better. If you think your rights are protected and will always be there, you're wrong. Your rights walk on a razor thin line, and constantly have to be upheld. It only takes a few focus groups and money to threaten to ban abortion and turn women who seek them into 'evil, greedy, criminals'. Women's reproductive rights in America hang on one hope--Barack Obama is a liberal. I do recommend that you study up on spin and on minority struggles though. Your idealistic streak will last another 10 years, in which case you'll take two paths--you'll become a social conservative and say insane things, or you'll understand what Ivy and the rest of the ladies here have been trying to tell you isn't just crazy talk. the whole minority struggles thing is a steryotype too chris rock said ''he couldnt believe the majority of black people do not think racism effects thier daily lives'' it doesnt have to be protected by law, its protected by masses, the complaints that come flooding in when someone starts saying something a little bit racial and i dont thinnk abortion is a reproductive right either, its a self inflicted ''privelage'' seeing as it would be biologically wrong to kill something thats supposed to happen when people have sex Oh damn
Well, my honorary black ass doesn't agree. Unfortunately this isn't one of those situations where we can all agree to disagree on the premise that everyone has their own opinion. In this case, you're wrong, and I'm right. | |
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phunkdaddy said: SCNDLS said: And with THIS bullshit right here, my sensible brothas and sistas (that includes you too, Imago  ) need to stop talking to this fool I'm witcha.  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SCNDLS said: Zinzi said: its spelled ''brothers and sisters'' i know you didn't make a typo twice Awwwww helllll to tha muthafucking NAW!!! I KNOW your illiterate ass ain't trynna correct somebody's spelling 
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SCNDLS said: Vendetta1 said: I bet you could actually hear me saying that shit too with all the appropriate neck and eye rolling and inflection. Getting your Johnny Gill on "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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prodigalfan said: Zinzi said: i was doing that as soon as you started posting to me im not blinded, ive actually asked numerous times why we need a segregated magazine, and why i need to know more about serena williams excersizing or whatever, more than lets say carmen electra's no one has explained it,some here just keep dancing around and insulting me THAT answers more than enough questions okay, I generally don't feed the trolls... but you are very misinformed about Ebony magazine. It is not a "segregated" magazine. Segregated would mean that only Black people could be in magazine or on the front cover. Now I am lumping Ebony and Jet magazine together since they are produced by same publishing company, but both have had White epople on the cover. You see, the magazines are targeted toward the interest of Black people. That is the TARGETED demographics. Just like golf magazines are targetedd toward golf enthusiasts. If there is someone White who is really of interest to a conscensus of Black Americans, then they will appear in the magazine too in the context that will be of interest of the targeted readers... Black Americans. So that is the reason that Nicole Brown Simpson, (that's right THAT Nicole) was on the cover of the magazine... because she was the wife of a famed Black athelete, OJ Simpson, and the reason that Jennifer Lopez has appeared on/in the magazines because she was an RB artist, on Living Color tv show and dating P Diddy, or Kimora Lee (who althought she says she is Black... she looks very Asian to me) and Teena Marie who is white but... (enuff said, everyone knows why the Vanilla Child is in Black publications  )
You see, it is not that Whites are prohibited, but are not of interest to the mass of Black readers and if for some reason someone wanted to read about Reba McIntyre's new CD and career... there are SO MANY other magazines that can be a source. When was the last time Eryka Badu or Maxwell was on the cover of Redbook or McCall's? Lisa Marie Presley made the cover of Ebony AND Jet too "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Zinzi said: why do you keep bringing my nationality into it? i dont believe black people or white people should act a certain way just because society tells them too oh no! the fall of an empire!!!!! Because you're making a judgment about a culture that you know little to nothing about, let alone the fact that you are not a member of it. You admitted yourself that you are a 19 year old British citizen, so by that standard alone, you have no grounds to judge American culture in general or African American culture in particular. Since you are unaware of the history of African people and their descendants in America, you're probably unaware that white people systematically marginalized, belittled, and humiliated black people in this country through slavery and Jim Crow laws, and that said black people were often characterized as "savages" who had no redeeming value except for their labor. Even after fighting a civil war, going through the civil rights movement to guarantee rights to African Americans that were supposed to have been enforced over 100 years earlier, and electing an African American to the Presidency, we're still dealing with white people (mostly from the southern parts of USA) attempting to belittle the accomplishments of African Americans. Because you are not from the USA, you don't have that cultural mindset which pervades race relations in this country. Zinzi said: culture is a made up thing that you believe black people should live by. nobody is born in a kimono, playing a banjo, or wearing a bone through their nose
history that is not relevant to set person but what the great great grandparents went through should not be spoken of as if it is part of the set persons Self history and financially is just where you live Now that's just ignorance on your part. Unless you somehow managed to raise yourself after exiting your mother's womb, every person is a sum of their family and community's heritage. Just because you weren't enslaved by whites or fought against the Scots or Irish doesn't mean that you don't have that cultural history ingrained in you in some fashion. You said that you're only 19; so you probably are too young to remember when your parents had to dodge random terrorist bombimgs by the Irish Republican Army or the history behind the rise of the Irish Republican Army in the first place. Now hopefully, your culture has evolved considerably since then, but don't claim that your parents or grandparents history doesn't affect you you are today. 
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Zinzi said: Vendetta1 said: I do exactly as I please and not by any society's standards. I think for myself and do not let the media influence my opinions. You, on the other hand, seem to believe everything mainstream media tells you to believe about us. Your nationality is important because I tend to dismiss what people in other countries have to say about racism in this country. it is too bad that you do not want to know or claim the history of your ancestors. I do. I want to know and understand why some white people in my country hate me because of the color of my skin. Keep those rose colored glasses on, tho.
i dont even read magazines and newspapers and i do not inherit the individual history of people from past as my own made story you cant say about racism in your country untill you live in every state. inevery town. and meetr every person in the counrty so you might aswell dismiss your own some white people hate you because of the color of your skin because they believe in stupid shit like ''protecting culture'' similar to you they believe they can judge a person on the colour of their skin because the 'steryotypical culture' condones that they are being fair if they tell you to go chuck a spear, according to you its not racist, its just being historically accurate seeing as what some black guy was doing in africa by his own choice a thousand years ago somehow inflicts it as your choice because you 'claim his culture' if im wearing glasses, at least they arent blocked out completely ass
Everything you just said about me is EXACTLY what you have been doing.
And thanks for admitting to trolling, Makes it easier for mods to ban you.  | |
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Imago said: Zinzi said: the whole minority struggles thing is a steryotype too chris rock said ''he couldnt believe the majority of black people do not think racism effects thier daily lives'' it doesnt have to be protected by law, its protected by masses, the complaints that come flooding in when someone starts saying something a little bit racial and i dont thinnk abortion is a reproductive right either, its a self inflicted ''privelage'' seeing as it would be biologically wrong to kill something thats supposed to happen when people have sex Oh damn
Well, my honorary black ass doesn't agree. Unfortunately this isn't one of those situations where we can all agree to disagree on the premise that everyone has their own opinion. In this case, you're wrong, and I'm right. nope your bias. im not ''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal'' | |
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Zinzi said: Cinnie said: what's funny is that you won't acknowledge that your nice little run as a troll in this thread is over. actually it ended ages ago, whatever trolling i was doing the last couple of posts have been me defending myself | |
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