Zinzi said:

Believe me, none of your sense is common.

sammij said:

look at the bigger picture, im talking about people in general, not militant blacks

Vendetta1 said:

wow youd have to be a non-black person to be ignorant?

i take my ass to a news stand and already explained that there is no 'under represented race' they are the MINORITY so chances are, so are the appearences in magazines
why should magazine companies deliberately put black people in magazines 50/50 with white people even though 90% of the people who walk through the companies doors and ask to be feature in the magazine or whatever, and the people in any buisness they talk about are white?

affirmative action?
dont make me sick

Zinzi said:

I'm militant?
You're far too blinded to see the bigger picture, and you're the last person to be commenting on something like this anyway.

I only reply to your posts out of entertainment now keep'em comin'

Vendetta1 said:

wow youd have to be a non-black person to be ignorant?

i take my ass to a news stand and already explained that there is no 'under represented race' they are the MINORITY so chances are, so are the appearences in magazines
why should magazine companies deliberately put black people in magazines 50/50 with white people even though 90% of the people who walk through the companies doors and ask to be feature in the magazine or whatever, and the people in any buisness they talk about are white?

affirmative action?
dont make me sick

Zinzi said:

Talking to you is like talking to a rock so enjoy living on your planet Ignorantisbliss.

sammij said:

i was doing that as soon as you started posting to me
im not blinded, ive actually asked numerous times why we need a segregated magazine, and why i need to know more about serena williams excersizing or whatever, more than lets say carmen electra's
no one has explained it,some here just keep dancing around and insulting me

THAT answers more than enough questions

Vendetta1 said:

I'm SO stealing that, big sis

Zinzi said:

Talking to you is like talking to a rock so enjoy living on your planet Ignorantisbliss.

Zinzi said:

So you're against focus magazines, yet you'd rather just see white magazines featuring the latest dancing negro when warranted?
Ok.

Vendetta1 said:

talking to a rock that said it was more than happy to sit back and be TOLD why ebony/jet magazine is so important, ONE person mentioned about the 60's but didnt explain why we need it now
you and a few other idiots insult me because you simply CANT explain why we need it

admit it

Vendetta1 said:

talking to a rock that said it was more than happy to sit back and be TOLD why ebony/jet magazine is so important, ONE person mentioned about the 60's but didnt explain why we need it now
you and a few other idiots insult me because you simply CANT explain why we need it

admit it

Vendetta1 said:

talking to a rock that said it was more than happy to sit back and be TOLD why ebony/jet magazine is so important, ONE person mentioned about the 60's but didnt explain why we need it now
you and a few other idiots insult me because you simply CANT explain why we need it

admit it

Zinzi said:

So you're against focus magazines, yet you'd rather just see white magazines featuring the latest dancing negro when warranted?
Ok.

sammij said:

Girl, I love your militant ass.

sammij said:

people magazine isnt a white magazine, its a magazine for everyone
and obviously has less black people because there ARE LESS BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA

Zinzi said:

Ok, look. Coming from an artist who focusses on the history of black people.
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE I CAME FROM. And no white person - or white 19 year old from UK for that matter - can tell me differently. I need to know for myself about issues that plagued my people before I got here. WHY? Because it helps to clarify WHY things are happening to us like they are now. It helps clarity WHAT we've done to this date and HOW MUCH MORE we've got to go. The history and the issues written about - if you actually ever took the time to read them - which by your sheer ignorance, you haven't (don't lie.) - you'd see that many of the issues they wrote about back in the 60s still pertain to us TODAY. So fuck off with your "this is black-controlled segregation, i'd prefer white-controlled segregation" bullshit. You have no fucking clue about what you're talking about, and I question how many black people you actually know intimately enough to know what they think.

You're an exceptionally disgusting look at what youth today think. Thanks for the "insight".

ohhh you.
I should make a project based on you.

sammij said:

i was doing that as soon as you started posting to me
im not blinded, ive actually asked numerous times why we need a segregated magazine, and why i need to know more about serena williams excersizing or whatever, more than lets say carmen electra's
no one has explained it,some here just keep dancing around and insulting me

THAT answers more than enough questions

Zinzi said:

I don't read "black" magazines, and have no interest in them. It's no my culture or ethnic background and they tend to be very poorly put together from what I have seen.

However, I noticed that you are young and from the UK. I'm not poking fun at that, but I remember when I was 19 I felt the same way about "focus" anything.


But, now in my jaded 30's I've come to realize that these magazines and news venues that are "for everyone" never fully escape their anglo-centric bias.

There was a news item a couple of years ago where a student ran through his college and killed a bunch of people with machine guns. This student just happened to be Korean. Every major news outlet in America was reporting "Korean student kills umpteen million people" over and over again. Now this student was just as American as anyone else---he spoke English, he was into American culture, you name it. Yet, the news kept mentioning this "Korean" student. His ethnic background was Korean but he had been fed a steady diet of McDonald's and American pop culture, and just as American as myself.

As an Asian American, the danger I saw in those headlines was that it focuses attention on me and other Asians in a negative light--one in which we're relatively powerless to combat given these publication's spread and scope. The 'Korean' student wasn't crazy because his skin was yellow---he just plain crazy. But, the focus kept going back to his being a 'Korean' student.


So, to some folks these minority focus magazines may appear to be creating a 'rift' between us. But, I argue that the rift is already there. And it's nice for minorities to read something that shows images of people like themselves portrayed in a manor of their own choosing....portrayed with less negative spin. Sometimes, these focus magazines are the only ones that one can read and not be made to feel like utter shit,



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ohhh you.
I should make a project based on you.

Zinzi said:

You continue to show that whatever reason you are given will not be good enough so why waste my breath?

Do you bitch about magazines that are geared just towards women or just to men? Or to sports enthusiasts?

Zinzi said:

Ok, I know you ignored my previous explanation, so here it is again...

its about black OWNERSHIP!!

OWNERSHIP is what's at stake when you separate the wheat from the shaft. Most black people in this country are not connected to owning anything....if that job/career ends, thats it.

By all means, ask any question

Imago said:

thats the thing though, no one HAS to feel like utter shit because of what some stupid magazine says, and no one should EVER let the media portray a whole race
so when the newspapers kept mentioning koreans, i put it that they should have been gotten rid of (the media too, however mafioso you wanna take that lol)
no one should have been influenced by the idea that people are evil becuse they are korean anyway
no matter how many newspapers and magazines bullshit,as the most logical of us know they do

Vendetta1 said:

no because anyone with an idea about biology knows that a man and woman think differently,the average person is heterosexual and dont exactly want the same sexes tits or junk in their face
and a sports enthusiast would be a cater for personality, not race

Zinzi said:

Pick up the Penguin history of World War II (it's widly available at Borders in the UK). The chapters concerning Nazi propaganda are stunning. You see, Germany didn't just wake up one day and decide to enforce a have-you-kicked-a-jew-today lifestyle. It started with national publications and other media campaigns to dehumanize the jews. WWII Germany wasn't a race of evil, hellbent, nazis. They were regular people. The book shows the systematic campaign that started with negative publicity and ended up with mass populations relegated to the ghettos. If you don't believe this can happen again, you're very very wrong.

Nobody has to believe what they read. Nobody has to feel affected by how they are portrayed? Sure, but I've been to the UK many times, and I've seen and heard what the general "logical" population says about the Polish and Muslim immigrants after a few drinks and slip of the tongue . If they were ballsy enough to publish that kind of rhetoric, contrary to what you may believe there would be tons of people who believe it, reinforce it, and eventually would begin to 'live it'.

Minority magazines are a good thing. And when whites become the minority in the USA, they'll agree too.


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Zinzi said:

How would you know that? Do you live there?