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Reply #60 posted 08/21/09 9:11pm

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I'm curious, all: To what other black periodicals do you subscribe? To which have you subscribed in the past? Which are/were great? Which suck(ed)?
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Reply #61 posted 08/21/09 9:16pm

Cinnie

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Obviously, she has no clue what that word stands for either shrug


i dont care what the word stands for to be fair, its the action my dad used to get me the ebony magazine and i read it and didnt understand why something had to be put as a 'black magazine'
if a magazine came out that was called 'ivory' and treated the news of whites superior to the news of blacks and deliberately contained no black people then media would be all over their ass


that's funny, because considering the ownership, amount of white writers, and white readership, the rest of the magazines on the newsstand mightas well be called "Ivory" shrug
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Reply #62 posted 08/21/09 9:24pm

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Lammastide said:

I'm curious, all: To what other black periodicals do you subscribe? To which have you subscribed in the past? Which are/were great? Which suck(ed)?

Emerge, Black Enterprise, Code and Ebony Man (though, on that last one, I don't think I subscribed). I occasionally picked up "Honey" because it was co-helmed by someone I knew and -- even though I wasn't in the target demographic -- I wanted to throw her some support. They seemed like they were shooting for a hipper Essence deal without sacrificing depth or sophistication.

Code didn't last long enough for me to get a true sense of its market or, rather, how it would find a way to connect with that market long-term. Ebony Man was so-so. They found the midpoint between traditional Ebony-caliber articles and the crop of black men's magazines that have been around for the past decade or so (that I never read).

Emerge was wonderful. And, I found Black Enterprise to be only so-so. I read so much online now every day, I no longer subscribe to print products. Not worth the expense. I know this contributes to -- if not hastens -- the demise of my former love, the print news media. But, alas, someone said "parties weren't meant to last..." lol
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Reply #63 posted 08/21/09 9:29pm

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Cinnie said:

Zinzi said:



i dont care what the word stands for to be fair, its the action my dad used to get me the ebony magazine and i read it and didnt understand why something had to be put as a 'black magazine'
if a magazine came out that was called 'ivory' and treated the news of whites superior to the news of blacks and deliberately contained no black people then media would be all over their ass


that's funny, because considering the ownership, amount of white writers, and white readership, the rest of the magazines on the newsstand mightas well be called "Ivory" shrug


and considering the minorities to the majorities your gonna get about the same population of blacks in magazines as you are on the average street
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Reply #64 posted 08/21/09 9:39pm

Cinnie

Zinzi said:

Cinnie said:



that's funny, because considering the ownership, amount of white writers, and white readership, the rest of the magazines on the newsstand mightas well be called "Ivory" shrug


and considering the minorities to the majorities your gonna get about the same population of blacks in magazines as you are on the average street


Right! So, what's wrong with having a magazine like Ebony again? confuse
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Reply #65 posted 08/21/09 9:44pm

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Cinnie said:

Zinzi said:



and considering the minorities to the majorities your gonna get about the same population of blacks in magazines as you are on the average street


Right! So, what's wrong with having a magazine like Ebony again? confuse


because its deliberate

white magazine companys arent picking whites to mainly feature in the magazine because they are white, its because their are more of them so its more likely to be in a magazine
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Reply #66 posted 08/21/09 9:49pm

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Zinzi said:

Cinnie said:



Right! So, what's wrong with having a magazine like Ebony again? confuse


because its deliberate

white magazine companys arent picking whites to mainly feature in the magazine because they are white, its because their are more of them so its more likely to be in a magazine

So what's wrong with having a forum for us? You're still young, so I understand if you just can't understand the other side of it.
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Reply #67 posted 08/21/09 9:58pm

Cinnie

sammij said:

Zinzi said:



because its deliberate

white magazine companys arent picking whites to mainly feature in the magazine because they are white, its because their are more of them so its more likely to be in a magazine

So what's wrong with having a forum for us? You're still young, so I understand if you just can't understand the other side of it.


She's trolling. She has already acknowledged that there is a minority population. Now we're just debating about JUST HOW MUCH under-represented this group is in the general media. shrug
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Reply #68 posted 08/21/09 10:03pm

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Cinnie said:

sammij said:


So what's wrong with having a forum for us? You're still young, so I understand if you just can't understand the other side of it.


She's trolling. She has already acknowledged that there is a minority population. Now we're just debating about JUST HOW MUCH under-represented this group is in the general media. shrug


how can you represent a whole race in media anyw..
oh wait a minuite of course, steryoptyping
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Reply #69 posted 08/21/09 10:04pm

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sammij said:

Zinzi said:



because its deliberate

white magazine companys arent picking whites to mainly feature in the magazine because they are white, its because their are more of them so its more likely to be in a magazine

So what's wrong with having a forum for us? You're still young, so I understand if you just can't understand the other side of it.


being young has nothing to do with misunderstanding common sense
believe me its been made quite clear

didnt you mean ''a thread'' for whomever ''us'' is?
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Reply #70 posted 08/21/09 10:07pm

Cinnie

troll
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Reply #71 posted 08/21/09 10:10pm

Cinnie

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how can you represent a whole race in media anyw..
oh wait a minuite of course, steryoptyping


You sound white

Zinzi said:

didnt you mean ''a thread'' for whomever ''us'' is?


and stupid lol You think "a forum" means prince.org?
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Reply #72 posted 08/21/09 10:11pm

Cinnie

hah!

Zinzi said:

being young has nothing to do with misunderstanding common sense
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Reply #73 posted 08/21/09 10:24pm

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Cinnie said:

Zinzi said:

how can you represent a whole race in media anyw..
oh wait a minuite of course, steryoptyping


You sound white

Zinzi said:

didnt you mean ''a thread'' for whomever ''us'' is?


and stupid lol You think "a forum" means prince.org?


''i sound white''
nuff said

no i know its a ''org''but this IS a thread
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Reply #74 posted 08/21/09 10:26pm

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Cinnie said:

hah!

Zinzi said:

being young has nothing to do with misunderstanding common sense


wahey you were dumb (shouldnt play ''were'' so much but..''
when you were young so everyone else should be
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Reply #75 posted 08/21/09 10:28pm

Cinnie

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Cinnie said:

hah!


wahey you were dumb (shouldnt play ''were'' so much but..''
when you were young so everyone else should be


Your profile says you're 19. Your grown ass shouldn't still be this ignorant disbelief
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Reply #76 posted 08/21/09 10:51pm

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Cinnie said:

Zinzi said:



wahey you were dumb (shouldnt play ''were'' so much but..''
when you were young so everyone else should be


Your profile says you're 19. Your grown ass shouldn't still be this ignorant disbelief


whatever ignorance clouds not condoning segregation
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Reply #77 posted 08/21/09 10:54pm

Cinnie

Zinzi said:

Cinnie said:



Your profile says you're 19. Your grown ass shouldn't still be this ignorant disbelief


whatever ignorance clouds not condoning segregation


or silencing minorities by comparing them to small hate groups within a majority.

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Reply #78 posted 08/21/09 11:09pm

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Cinnie said:

Zinzi said:



whatever ignorance clouds not condoning segregation


or silencing minorities by comparing them to small hate groups within a majority.



there you go again
letting a magazine speak for a whole race

believe me, i dont think black people in general are stupid enough to submit themselves to a piece of media
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Reply #79 posted 08/22/09 2:30am

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and RIP to SUEDE magazine from years ago I really liked the direction it was taking ! not only that lot's of magazine are now online hurting the print business even more sad
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Reply #80 posted 08/22/09 3:18am

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Reply #81 posted 08/22/09 8:52am

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Wow, I have subscribed not to them for years... but I will get subscription tomorrow for Ebony.

I never liked Jet. Too small and almost tabloid with it's "people talking" column... and Star does the tabloids...so much better.

Anyhoo.

I am supporting Ebony because I really like seeing beautiful Black people on the magazine covers who LOOK black, wearing hair and make up that accentuate their beautiful ethnicity. I like seeing women wearing lipstick with colors like "Raisin" and "Blackberry"... not "Iced Peach" and "Perfectly Tanned."

This along with ariticles about Black families, Black music groups helped me feel a sense of belonging in America.

I did not identify with a family outing to a baseball game or going to a hoedown or square dancing... As a Black girl, I identified with driving down south for family reunions, and back yard barbeques and house parties. To read strategies for families doing THOSE activities were more relevant to me.

Now internet takes up more of my time so that I don't read many magazines... but if I decided to pick up a copy to find out the latest on Ericka Badu or yes even Prince... I know that I will get an interesting article and GREAT PICTURES in Ebony or Essence magazine.

You got to support them or all we will have left is a tiny one column story in People (very seldom a cover story unless there is a scandal to captialize on), or those crappy (can't spell or write a grammatically correct sentence) hip hop "magazine".
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This is one of my fave Ebony covers.

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Reply #82 posted 08/22/09 8:54am

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ThreadBare said:

Harlepolis said:



I tried not to, but somebody gotta set the record straight,,,,,you can't live your life being "naive". There's no excuse for that anymore.


What's the Org history? Trolls who play genuinely-yet-provocatively naive invariably and fairly successfully play the role of the schoolkid who throws the first punch.

Again, not saying Zinc or whatever our Org friend is named is a troll. I'm just saying again that it's not worth it. Entertainment takes a lot of different forms on the Org.

Especially for tro . . . I mean users with new accounts. rolleyes hah!
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Reply #83 posted 08/22/09 8:57am

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Lammastide said:

I'm curious, all: To what other black periodicals do you subscribe? To which have you subscribed in the past? Which are/were great? Which suck(ed)?

I used to have subscriptions to Ebony, Essence and Vibe back in the '90s. I still love Eseence but Vibe got old pretty quick and I stopped my subscription after Biggie died.
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Reply #84 posted 08/22/09 9:11am

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SCNDLS said:

ThreadBare said:



What's the Org history? Trolls who play genuinely-yet-provocatively naive invariably and fairly successfully play the role of the schoolkid who throws the first punch.

Again, not saying Zinc or whatever our Org friend is named is a troll. I'm just saying again that it's not worth it. Entertainment takes a lot of different forms on the Org.

Especially for tro . . . I mean users with new accounts. rolleyes hah!


or just people with common sense
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Reply #85 posted 08/22/09 9:14am

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ThreadBare said:

Lammastide said:

I'm curious, all: To what other black periodicals do you subscribe? To which have you subscribed in the past? Which are/were great? Which suck(ed)?

Emerge, Black Enterprise, Code and Ebony Man (though, on that last one, I don't think I subscribed). I occasionally picked up "Honey" because it was co-helmed by someone I knew and -- even though I wasn't in the target demographic -- I wanted to throw her some support. They seemed like they were shooting for a hipper Essence deal without sacrificing depth or sophistication.

Code didn't last long enough for me to get a true sense of its market or, rather, how it would find a way to connect with that market long-term. Ebony Man was so-so. They found the midpoint between traditional Ebony-caliber articles and the crop of black men's magazines that have been around for the past decade or so (that I never read).

Emerge was wonderful. And, I found Black Enterprise to be only so-so. I read so much online now every day, I no longer subscribe to print products. Not worth the expense. I know this contributes to -- if not hastens -- the demise of my former love, the print news media. But, alas, someone said "parties weren't meant to last..." lol

Of the ones you mentioned, I only ever subscribed to Emerge. Code caught my attention, but as you say, it bit the dust before it truly found itself. Sad to say, but no other national rags really spoke/speak to me...

I'm probably a buppie, but with enough boho sensibilities that Black Enterprise seems a foreign world to me. Unfortunately, there was so little buzz around Ebony Man that it never really picked up on my radar. And I'd just as soon see the likes of King and XXL die a slow quick and painful death.

It always surprised me, but I was often impressed with the quality and cheekiness of Vibe's editorial. (And to some degree, I could even begrudgingly say the same now of Source.) My pop culture tastes, though, never quite matched up with either target demo.

Honestly, my favorite black periodical out now is Essence. lurking ...And yeah, it's lonely out there. lol
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Reply #86 posted 08/22/09 9:18am

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utopia7 said:

and RIP to SUEDE magazine from years ago I really liked the direction it was taking ! not only that lot's of magazine are now online hurting the print business even more sad

hmmm Suede was intriguing. Sad that it spiraled into Limbo. I'd love to see it pick up again... and I'd LOVE some male approximation to spring up.
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Reply #87 posted 08/22/09 9:30am

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SCNDLS said:


Especially for tro . . . I mean users with new accounts. rolleyes hah!


or just people with common sense
Wow, you asked for someone to explain it to you so you can understand, then you take issue with their explanation and choose to remain ignorant about it. take your ass to a newsstand. look at how many minorities are represented on the front of the more popular publications and then ask yourself if black people are under represented.

Either you are not a black person or I have another reason to believe that our youth is not being taught ALL history.
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Reply #88 posted 08/22/09 9:56am

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Vendetta1 said:

Zinzi said:



or just people with common sense
Wow, you asked for someone to explain it to you so you can understand, then you take issue with their explanation and choose to remain ignorant about it. take your ass to a newsstand. look at how many minorities are represented on the front of the more popular publications and then ask yourself if black people are under represented.

Either you are not a black person or I have another reason to believe that our youth is not being taught ALL history.


wow youd have to be a non-black person to be ignorant?

i take my ass to a news stand and already explained that there is no 'under represented race' they are the MINORITY so chances are, so are the appearences in magazines
why should magazine companies deliberately put black people in magazines 50/50 with white people even though 90% of the people who walk through the companies doors and ask to be feature in the magazine or whatever, and the people in any buisness they talk about are white?

affirmative action?
dont make me sick
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Reply #89 posted 08/22/09 9:57am

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Zinzi said:

SCNDLS said:


Especially for tro . . . I mean users with new accounts. rolleyes hah!


or just people with common sense

Believe me, none of your sense is common. comfort
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