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Reply #30 posted 08/21/09 2:43pm

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By some accounts, Johnson Publishing is in crisis mode, with its print advertising revenue down three consecutive years and getting worse because of the recession and the wholesale shifting of advertising dollars to the Internet. This year alone, Ebony’s advertising revenue has dropped 31.8 percent, according to the Publishers Reference Bureau. And the worst may not be over, as many marketers continue shifting dollars away from black media and focusing on the faster growing Hispanic audience. The situation is so serious that Johnson Publishing has been forced to make a series of staff layoffs totaling some 150 people, according to published reports.


From: http://www.blackweb20.com...-for-help/

Even though I stopped reading Ebony/Jet 5 years ago since none of their stuff seems relevant to me,,,,,I still hate to see such an institution go to waste, and I'm MORE upset that alot of people will lose their jobs.

What do you guys think?


i dont like magazines like this anyway, why do they have to have a magazine for black people anyway pfft
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Reply #31 posted 08/21/09 2:47pm

uPtoWnNY

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Harlepolis said:



From: http://www.blackweb20.com...-for-help/

Even though I stopped reading Ebony/Jet 5 years ago since none of their stuff seems relevant to me,,,,,I still hate to see such an institution go to waste, and I'm MORE upset that alot of people will lose their jobs.

What do you guys think?


i dont like magazines like this anyway, why do they have to have a magazine for black people anyway pfft


If you knew your history, then you wouldn't make a ridiculous statement like that.
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Reply #32 posted 08/21/09 2:50pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

Zinzi said:



i dont like magazines like this anyway, why do they have to have a magazine for black people anyway pfft


If you knew your history, then you wouldn't make a ridiculous statement like that.


my history?

at least i know logic
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Reply #33 posted 08/21/09 3:01pm

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Zinzi said:

uPtoWnNY said:



If you knew your history, then you wouldn't make a ridiculous statement like that.


my history?

at least i know logic


Uh..Oh...its about to get ugly up in here.. popcorn
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Reply #34 posted 08/21/09 3:27pm

uPtoWnNY

SavonOsco said:

Zinzi said:



my history?

at least i know logic


Uh..Oh...its about to get ugly up in here.. popcorn


It's like the folks who rail against HBCUs, and TV/radio stations geared towards a particular ethnic group, without understanding the history behind them. Morons.
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Reply #35 posted 08/21/09 3:34pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

SavonOsco said:



Uh..Oh...its about to get ugly up in here.. popcorn


It's like the folks who rail against HBCUs, and TV/radio stations geared towards a particular ethnic group, without understanding the history behind them. Morons.


and whats the history,keep america segregated?
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Reply #36 posted 08/21/09 3:42pm

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Zinzi said:

uPtoWnNY said:



It's like the folks who rail against HBCUs, and TV/radio stations geared towards a particular ethnic group, without understanding the history behind them. Morons.


and whats the history,keep america segregated?

There are no words.
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Reply #37 posted 08/21/09 3:49pm

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sammij said:

Zinzi said:



and whats the history,keep america segregated?

There are no words.


meh?
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Reply #38 posted 08/21/09 3:50pm

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Zinzi said:

sammij said:


There are no words.


meh?

Guess so shrug
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Reply #39 posted 08/21/09 3:51pm

Harlepolis

Zinzi said:

uPtoWnNY said:



It's like the folks who rail against HBCUs, and TV/radio stations geared towards a particular ethnic group, without understanding the history behind them. Morons.


and whats the history,keep america segregated?


Guess what?

America will STAY segregated & divided whether Ebony stays on business or get flushed down the toilet, it was founded on that fact and it will keep being that way,,,,,much to alot of people's displeasure, don't think its supposed to end just because a black man happens to be the president.

And its not even about segregation,,,its about black OWNERSHIP!!

OWNERSHIP is what's at stake when you separate the wheat from the shaft. Most black people in this country are not connected to owning anything....if that job/career ends, thats it.
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Reply #40 posted 08/21/09 3:52pm

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sammij said:

Zinzi said:



meh?

Guess so shrug


razz
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Reply #41 posted 08/21/09 3:54pm

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wonder how long it will take for this thread to get moved to P&R? hmmm
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Reply #42 posted 08/21/09 6:38pm

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Wow, I have subscribed not to them for years... but I will get subscription tomorrow for Ebony.

I never liked Jet. Too small and almost tabloid with it's "people talking" column... and Star does the tabloids...so much better.

Anyhoo.

I am supporting Ebony because I really like seeing beautiful Black people on the magazine covers who LOOK black, wearing hair and make up that accentuate their beautiful ethnicity. I like seeing women wearing lipstick with colors like "Raisin" and "Blackberry"... not "Iced Peach" and "Perfectly Tanned."

This along with ariticles about Black families, Black music groups helped me feel a sense of belonging in America.

I did not identify with a family outing to a baseball game or going to a hoedown or square dancing... As a Black girl, I identified with driving down south for family reunions, and back yard barbeques and house parties. To read strategies for families doing THOSE activities were more relevant to me.

Now internet takes up more of my time so that I don't read many magazines... but if I decided to pick up a copy to find out the latest on Ericka Badu or yes even Prince... I know that I will get an interesting article and GREAT PICTURES in Ebony or Essence magazine.

You got to support them or all we will have left is a tiny one column story in People (very seldom a cover story unless there is a scandal to captialize on), or those crappy (can't spell or write a grammatically correct sentence) hip hop "magazine".
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Reply #43 posted 08/21/09 6:58pm

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Zinzi said:

uPtoWnNY said:



It's like the folks who rail against HBCUs, and TV/radio stations geared towards a particular ethnic group, without understanding the history behind them. Morons.


and whats the history,keep america segregated?


If you're gonna question Jet/Ebony magazine,why don't you question Rush
Dimbaugh who has a members only website(we know for whom and apparently
he doesn't want to respond intelligently to the few blacks that call
in his talk show to challenge his idiotology)or Sean Hannity who has
a dating service for like minded conservatives.
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Reply #44 posted 08/21/09 7:25pm

Zinzi

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phunkdaddy said:

Zinzi said:



and whats the history,keep america segregated?


If you're gonna question Jet/Ebony magazine,why don't you question Rush
Dimbaugh who has a members only website(we know for whom and apparently
he doesn't want to respond intelligently to the few blacks that call
in his talk show to challenge his idiotology)or Sean Hannity who has
a dating service for like minded conservatives.
mad


because i didnt know rush or sean existed untill now,i thought my statement made it clear i have no liking for any racists
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Reply #45 posted 08/21/09 7:26pm

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Zinzi said:

phunkdaddy said:



If you're gonna question Jet/Ebony magazine,why don't you question Rush
Dimbaugh who has a members only website(we know for whom and apparently
he doesn't want to respond intelligently to the few blacks that call
in his talk show to challenge his idiotology)or Sean Hannity who has
a dating service for like minded conservatives.
mad


because i didnt know rush or sean existed untill now,i thought my statement made it clear i have no liking for any racists

lol
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Reply #46 posted 08/21/09 7:30pm

Harlepolis

sammij said:

Zinzi said:



because i didnt know rush or sean existed untill now,i thought my statement made it clear i have no liking for any racists

lol


Obviously, she has no clue what that word stands for either shrug
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Reply #47 posted 08/21/09 7:38pm

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Harlepolis said:

sammij said:


lol


Obviously, she has no clue what that word stands for either shrug


i dont care what the word stands for to be fair, its the action my dad used to get me the ebony magazine and i read it and didnt understand why something had to be put as a 'black magazine'
if a magazine came out that was called 'ivory' and treated the news of whites superior to the news of blacks and deliberately contained no black people then media would be all over their ass
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Reply #48 posted 08/21/09 7:42pm

Harlepolis

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Harlepolis said:



Obviously, she has no clue what that word stands for either shrug


i dont care what the word stands for to be fair,


Then stop saying it.
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Reply #49 posted 08/21/09 7:56pm

Zinzi

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Harlepolis said:

Zinzi said:



i dont care what the word stands for to be fair,


Then stop saying it.


stop typing it

..stop typing it
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Reply #50 posted 08/21/09 7:58pm

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Honestly, folks, let's not get bent out of shape by the comments of someone who simply said they don't see the need for black-geared publications.

They, in all fairness, probably don't see the need for golfing, NASCAR, cooking, religious or financial publications either. I mean, because let's face it: Niche publications must be inherently skewed.

It's probably worth considering that perspective some.

hmmm

OK, and in the case of anyone who might be trolling (not saying said poster is), don't demean yourself by reacting. It's not worth it.
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Reply #51 posted 08/21/09 8:00pm

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ThreadBare said:

Honestly, folks, let's not get bent out of shape by the comments of someone who simply said they don't see the need for black-geared publications.

They, in all fairness, probably don't see the need for golfing, NASCAR, cooking, religious or financial publications either. I mean, because let's face it: Niche publications must be inherently skewed.

It's probably worth considering that perspective some.

hmmm

OK, and in the case of anyone who might be trolling (not saying said poster is), don't demean yourself by reacting. It's not worth it.



instead of running around the house in a little car someone explain why we need it
id be willing to sit back and read
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Reply #52 posted 08/21/09 8:01pm

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OK, and in the case of anyone who might be trolling (not saying said poster is), don't demean yourself by reacting. It's not worth it.


I tried not to, but somebody gotta set the record straight,,,,,you can't live your life being "naive". There's no excuse for that anymore.
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Reply #53 posted 08/21/09 8:08pm

ThreadBare

Harlepolis said:

ThreadBare said:


OK, and in the case of anyone who might be trolling (not saying said poster is), don't demean yourself by reacting. It's not worth it.


I tried not to, but somebody gotta set the record straight,,,,,you can't live your life being "naive". There's no excuse for that anymore.


What's the Org history? Trolls who play genuinely-yet-provocatively naive invariably and fairly successfully play the role of the schoolkid who throws the first punch.

Again, not saying Zinc or whatever our Org friend is named is a troll. I'm just saying again that it's not worth it. Entertainment takes a lot of different forms on the Org.
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Reply #54 posted 08/21/09 8:09pm

Harlepolis

ThreadBare said:

Harlepolis said:



I tried not to, but somebody gotta set the record straight,,,,,you can't live your life being "naive". There's no excuse for that anymore.


What's the Org history? Trolls who play genuinely-yet-provocatively naive invariably and fairly successfully play the role of the schoolkid who throws the first punch.

Again, not saying Zinc or whatever our Org friend is named is a troll. I'm just saying again that it's not worth it. Entertainment takes a lot of different forms on the Org.


Touche.
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Reply #55 posted 08/21/09 8:10pm

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Zinzi said:

Harlepolis said:



Obviously, she has no clue what that word stands for either shrug


i dont care what the word stands for to be fair, its the action my dad used to get me the ebony magazine and i read it and didnt understand why something had to be put as a 'black magazine'
if a magazine came out that was called 'ivory' and treated the news of whites superior to the news of blacks and deliberately contained no black people then media would be all over their ass


I've never read a Jet or Ebony magazine that stated that the news in
the black community was superior to other races but obviously you don't
have a clue. If there was no Jet or Ebony especially on the heels of
racial disparity at it's highest in the 60's,the black community wouldn't
have been informed about things that affect it's culture or this country.
Let me break it down for you. There was a time when magazines like People
weren't putting blacks on the cover or Time and U.S News weren't talking
about issues in the black community. What the hell was Ebony and Jet thinking
when they decided to put out a magazine about news affecting the black
community? Maybe they should have consulted with the editor of People
magazine first to see if they had the same idea.
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Reply #56 posted 08/21/09 8:25pm

ThreadBare

disbelief
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Reply #57 posted 08/21/09 8:27pm

Zinzi

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phunkdaddy said:

Zinzi said:



i dont care what the word stands for to be fair, its the action my dad used to get me the ebony magazine and i read it and didnt understand why something had to be put as a 'black magazine'
if a magazine came out that was called 'ivory' and treated the news of whites superior to the news of blacks and deliberately contained no black people then media would be all over their ass


I've never read a Jet or Ebony magazine that stated that the news in
the black community was superior to other races but obviously you don't
have a clue. If there was no Jet or Ebony especially on the heels of
racial disparity at it's highest in the 60's,the black community wouldn't
have been informed about things that affect it's culture or this country.
Let me break it down for you. There was a time when magazines like People
weren't putting blacks on the cover or Time and U.S News weren't talking
about issues in the black community. What the hell was Ebony and Jet thinking
when they decided to put out a magazine about news affecting the black
community? Maybe they should have consulted with the editor of People
magazine first to see if they had the same idea.
whofarted


thats not explaining why people need it now
blacks arent segregated anymore
and their statement being that black people are meant to read a certain magazine simply because they are black and that means they have a ''culture'' that coincidently glides in with every other black person in america
over the new and improved mainstream magazines is bEE Ess
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Reply #58 posted 08/21/09 8:36pm

ThreadBare

Zinzi said:

phunkdaddy said:



I've never read a Jet or Ebony magazine that stated that the news in
the black community was superior to other races but obviously you don't
have a clue. If there was no Jet or Ebony especially on the heels of
racial disparity at it's highest in the 60's,the black community wouldn't
have been informed about things that affect it's culture or this country.
Let me break it down for you. There was a time when magazines like People
weren't putting blacks on the cover or Time and U.S News weren't talking
about issues in the black community. What the hell was Ebony and Jet thinking
when they decided to put out a magazine about news affecting the black
community? Maybe they should have consulted with the editor of People
magazine first to see if they had the same idea.
whofarted


thats not explaining why people need it now
blacks arent segregated anymore
and their statement being that black people are meant to read a certain magazine simply because they are black and that means they have a ''culture'' that coincidently glides in with every other black person in america
over the new and improved mainstream magazines is bEE Ess


Ma'am, you've made your point that you don't think magazines that cater to ethnic groups should exist. If you want to debate that point, you probably should start a thread in the Politics & Religion forum.

The original post, however, quotes an article that talks about how pressures on the print media industry are making Johnson Publishing's shift to online products even more urgent and have caused layoffs (a trend seen in non-ethnic media, particularly in daily newspapers).

Do you find that you read more online publications than printed ones? If you read print publications, which ones do you favor? Given your profile details (UK, 19-year-old female), I'm sure media companies are targeting your demographic pretty heavily as a consumer.
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Reply #59 posted 08/21/09 8:48pm

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Zinzi said:



thats not explaining why people need it now
blacks arent segregated anymore
and their statement being that black people are meant to read a certain magazine simply because they are black and that means they have a ''culture'' that coincidently glides in with every other black person in america
over the new and improved mainstream magazines is bEE Ess


Ma'am, you've made your point that you don't think magazines that cater to ethnic groups should exist. If you want to debate that point, you probably should start a thread in the Politics & Religion forum.

The original post, however, quotes an article that talks about how pressures on the print media industry are making Johnson Publishing's shift to online products even more urgent and have caused layoffs (a trend seen in non-ethnic media, particularly in daily newspapers).

Do you find that you read more online publications than printed ones? If you read print publications, which ones do you favor? Given your profile details (UK, 19-year-old female), I'm sure media companies are targeting your demographic pretty heavily as a consumer.



I sometimes buy and sometimes read online, i prefer whichever one offers good information
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