Harlepolis said:

Ooooooh! Stop. You're gonna make me wake the entire house laughing at this!!

DesireeNevermind said:

It has been established that Mr.Speilberg knows nothing about "black life" outside of hollywood many times, but you're right it needs to be mentioned.

Lammastide said:[quote]

DesireeNevermind said:

Do not patronize me by giving me a shallow "evil vs good" storyline. Show me how those villains are conflicted, is "being evil" the only side of them or are they just another complex human beings who got victimized themselves too?

Don't expect me to go "Amen" just because I'm watching a movie about women's empowering. I need to be challanged, not handed with a cliche slogan that will supposedly uplift me.




My concern in this discuession is the BLACK male specifically. I did not say it was Alice Walker's fault, I'm saying that the society did that and her book ain't helping to paint a stable picture about black men. Just like Spike Lee is known for objectifying black women in his movies. You understand what I'm trying to say?

Somebody gotta break the damn cycle. Enough of this "black women Vs black man" shit. There's NO empowering coming from that, and I'm a black woman.
[Edited 8/20/09 5:22am]

ThreadBare said:

Her Tommy Boy!!!

That ain't no different than Ellen going on and on and on about Timberlake. Ain't nothing against ladies that love the ladies having a boy crush.

reneGade20 said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

Harlepolis said:

When/how was this established??? Isn't this great news for the black children he's raising?
[Edited 8/20/09 5:31am]

SCNDLS said:

Spike Lee has been publicly attacking him and that movie since 1988 to this day.

Even Alice Walker commented about how biased the direction of the movie went(surprise surprise).

Hell, Stephen HIMSELF admitted in a "60 minutes" interview that he's clueless about the subject.

reneGade20 said:

PREACH THAT SHIT!!!!!

uPtoWnNY said:

Both of ya'll know you'd suck on these bunions for some billions.

Not enough $$$$$ in the WORLD.

SCNDLS said:

I'll close my eyes and think of you while I'm doing it.

uPtoWnNY said:

Whatever you gotta do to get them ends so we can go shopping.

Harlepolis said:[quote]

Lammastide said:

First off, I'm not the one patronizing you and I'm not talking about any evil vs. good storyline. I would in no way reduce the movie Color Purple to such a simplistic term and I don't see any "cliches" in that film at all.

And let me ask you? Did the movie "burning bed" with Farrah Fawcett as a victim of domestic violence and dehuminization at the hands of her white husband somehow set white men back or portray them all as negative? Are you equally dissappointed in that film?


Second...I don't expect you to go "Amen" to anything nor do I expect you to give black men a "pass" just because they are black men. Black men are part of society so in fact, they contribute to the negative imagery themselves. And nope, I don't think Spike objectifies black women in his movies. I actually think black women in his movies are largely devoid of character which is hardly the same as objectifying IMO.

As far as the black men vs. black woman cycle. Again, nobody can end that cycle but black men and black women and from what I see, black women are doing most of the damn work and they get rewarded with absentee fathers, no committment of marriage from black men, continued objectification in popular music made by black men and so on and so forth. And none of that, absolutely none, has to do with the film Color Purple. I'm sorry but some black men were treating their women like trash long before that book ever came along and they will do it long after. My continued point is....this film in no way contributes to or embodifies negative black male imagery nor how black men are viewed by society at large. Black men control their own imagery by the accomplishments they make and their contributions be they negative or positive.

And...many a white woman has her own "color puple" story to tell. Celie's character IMO transcended race because so many poor women in the deep south during that time were not being treated as they should be by men...like human beings that mattered.
[Edited 8/20/09 8:02am]

DesireeNevermind said:

DesireeNevermind said:

...Not where I'm from.....I get your point but it seems people need 2 start making BETTER life decisions.

I saw The Color Purple 5 times in the theater when it came out. Three of those were at the dollar movies though. I love that movie!

Graycap23 said:

Yep I can agree with that statement to a certain extent. For instance, I have a problem with the black women, or any woman for that matter, who is down with showing T&A all up in the video and tryna get in back stage but then gets mad at the brotha for tryna hit it then quit it. I mean you can't really blame him for tryna test drive a car that's got the doors all open and the keys already in the ignition. Making better choices will definitely yield better results when it comes to relationships overall.

If I was single I'd be on the same train of thought as Jamie.

SCNDLS said:

I wonder if Oprah's got a back up Steadman and we just don't know about it.

Stedman been around since '86.

He aint goin' nowhere.

DanceWme said:

He must have a big stead, man.

NMuzakNSoul said:

im sayin.
He doin something right.

DanceWme said:

she love him.

DesireeNevermind said:

Agree with both statements, especially when the problems are so obvious such as the exploitation of black women, for one.

DesireeNevermind said:

DesireeNevermind said:

using his harpo to please her.

DesireeNevermind said:

Uh, yeah . . . Gayle.

SCNDLS said:

And Mssy Elliot.