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Reply #30 posted 08/11/09 12:04am

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I don't know anything about your condition, so this is uniformed advice:

I suppose this will sound like some grandmother's recipe, but both my mother who suffers from acute arthritis and rhumathism and myself who has fibromyalgia have found tea tree oil to be extremely effective in alleviating pain in muscles, joints and anything in between [ligaments, tendons, etc] - even more so than actual medicines, gels and ointments for these areas. Try massaging a generous amount min 3 times a day where it hurts the most as a test. I would be surprised if you didn't feel at least some relief.

It won't cure the condition, since I understand it's chronic, but at $10-15 per bottle and without any side effects, tea tree oil could well be a lifelong solution I think.

And don't tell me about ignorant doctors and weird looks when you mention your condition - fibromyalgia is more commonly known now, but about 5 years ago and still now in Europe, I would be told that 'it's all in the mind'.

I do hope you get your health insurance to cover this, it's a chronic condition after all.

And I don't know if it's any consolation, but remember that thousands of people everyday live with chronic pain, and many are able to lead productive lives.
I always remember Justice William Hubbs Rehnquist, who at 80 years old and with thyroid cancer still went to work in court. Of course no pressure to be some superman/woman, but these life examples can help bring some perspective to one's lot imo...

Take good care.
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Reply #31 posted 08/11/09 12:18am

MrsMdiver

I am wracking my brain to think of a dr in your area that might be able to help. I will ask my ex-coworkers from the research office that I worked at. Maybe there is some sort of research or dr that specializes in research in this disorder that might be able to help in some way.
I am so sorry that you are suffering and that this is making you feel stressed and low.
My mom has some health issues too that are uncommon and hard to treat, especially when living in the US where the health care system is so fucked up.
Believe it or not, I pray every damn day that something will change there with regards to the health care. I certainly hope for you and my mom's sake that the changes are made quickly so the ppl that really need it are looked after and treated.

Sorry, I do not have anything else to offer right now.
Just do your best to hang in there and check out all of the online resources you can. I will let you know if I get info from my friends in the research field.

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Reply #32 posted 08/11/09 1:47am

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Wow, that's fucked up!

I know how it feels to be in pain a lot because of my disability I've been through a lot of shit so on that level I can relate. Even though I don't have what you have because I sit most of the day if I do get something I always take longer to recover especially if it's something to do with my legs. If I have a contusion for instance it can take 4 times as long to recover as my brother who has nothing.

Doctors don't totally understand me either because, the disability I have...Most people that have it have speech problems, also a mental disability, they shock or have visible spasms constantly, I don''t have that, I don't know why, I always thank God.

I don't have something to tell you that will fix everything but I can say this. My Grandma is probably the most pain enduring person I've ever known, no matter the pain she always go through or the hard life she went through she keeps smiling, (shes 87) I ask her how do you do that? She says "there's just no use in being cranky, you know you use more of your muscles when you frown than smile right?"

And so when I go through pain and am enduring it and feel like I''m tiredI remember that, with her sweet voice and even though, I don''t feel like smiling it still appears on my face and then i can''t help but do.

Keep on smiling, you deserve it. smile
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Reply #33 posted 08/11/09 2:10am

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Well, I think it's a landslide vote Lammy and Genesia came up with the most effective and productive answers. Insofar as the rest of us, we've got hugs for you here, slaps for you here, and a whole gazillion of us will be here talk to you, embrace you, pray for you, meditate for you, dance naked and bay under the moon for you, and whatever else you need hug
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Reply #34 posted 08/11/09 2:16am

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sad Make that call/send that email! hug hug
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #35 posted 08/11/09 3:54am

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pray hug Hang in there, gurl.
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Reply #36 posted 08/11/09 3:58am

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You all have no idea how much each post in this thread means to me, as well as each Orgnote I've received.

I'm reading each one and you all are uplifting me, humbling me and encouraging me to press on. That is priceless. I will report back later, after I've spoken to someone at EDNF.

I'm on my way to work, but all day I'll be thankful for your prayers, your encouragement, for reading this whole thing in the first place. lol

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Reply #37 posted 08/11/09 5:48am

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ZombieKitten said:



seriously, having to work so hard to even GET CARE is craziness, considering that people who have to do that are ILL mad

I really wish it weren't true, it must seem absolutely barbaric. But I'm another victim of this broken system--we all are, some way or the other. The things I could tell you about my own health issues in the past would have you biting down on your fist but thankfully, this thread isn't about me (and I don't want to re-live the past, as my own nightmare's far from over). lol

On the upside, I'm so glad that your beautiful boys can get medical and dental care when they need it. touched No kids should have to be victims of their ancestors' mistakes such as these.

I have read a post of yours where you DID go into detail cry I can't believe that the ones who need help most are the ones who have to fight and fight!! It's totally back to front nuts
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Reply #38 posted 08/11/09 10:59am

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abigail05 said:

not to sound like an idiot, but would pot help? weed

at any rate, I will pray for you PM


It does help. It relieves some of the pain, it takes care of the nausea that the pain pills sometimes cause, and it helps with depression too.

BUT, many doctors around here will give you a drug test before prescribing any pain meds. If you test positive for anything illegal you're shit out of luck. So I can get drunk off my ass every night if I want to, but I'd better not smoke any harmless plants if I want them to give me some liver-killing drugs. falloff
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Reply #39 posted 08/11/09 11:46am

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PunkMistress said:

IAintTheOne said:

Snap the fuck out of it Erin..... Chris loves you we all love you if there is anything you need you know how to find me dont you? smile


smile

That's what I'm talking about! lol

Thanks, Finess.

One lesson I learned, at least that I need to learn, from my grandma. She was telling me about the pain in her breast (breast cancer) and how it felt like she was being stabbed with an ice pick. And she told me that she was aware to catch herself when she wanted to scratch someone else because of her pain and she said it was nobody's pain but her own and it wasn't fair to put it on someone else.

I'm quick to strike. This lesson tells me i need to calm the fuck down when it aint that serious. Yours is obviously much higher levels then me telling old Mexican ladys on the train to fuck off lol But I will remember these words and try and temper my actions/reactions when it really and truly belongs to nobody but myself.

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Reply #40 posted 08/11/09 11:48am

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No, I'm not kidding. I'll start at the beginning.

I was born with Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, an extremely rare genetic disorder that causes my body to produce the wrong type of collagen. Collagen, of course, is in your skin, your ligaments, tendons, eyes - it makes up 30% of the human body. In practical terms this means that wounds don't heal properly, and that my joints are prone to dislocation and premature wear and tear. This means I am in pain all day, every day. My knees, shoulders, hips, wrists and fingers hurt constantly. When untreated, the pain makes it impossible for me to focus on work, relationships, my family, and everything else I love and am responsible for.

Because my disorder is so rare, doctors are unfamiliar with treating it. Even though I show up with medical records, evidence that I have taken pain medicines for extended periods without ever abusing them, and guides written by medical doctors for medical doctors explaining how, why and which pain medications are effective for this disorder, it is extremely difficult for me to find a doctor who is willing to help me. I am treated like a drug-seeking junkie time and time again. I guess doctors are so used to people coming in and seeking these drugs for recreational use, they just have a knee-jerk reaction - especially when a patient is coming in with something they've never heard of.

About a year and a half ago I finally found a wonderful doctor who listens, was willing to learn about EDS, and will prescribe the medicines that help me get through the day. Yay! So what's the problem? My insurance company refused to pay for some of my physicals, leaving me responsible for bills we can't afford. This resulted in my being "financially discharged" from my doctor's office. Meaning he cannot see me or prescribe my medications unless I come up with the money. As this is impossible, I have been trying to find a new doctor, with the above mentioned soul-crushing results.

Today I tried again, at another doctor's office. He had come highly recommended by a friend, and I went in with high hopes. I left in tears. He of course refused to prescribe my medicines, instead speaking in hushed tones about addiction and how he can help. I wanted to smash his fucking face in.

I feel utterly useless. I feel defective and defeated. I fear that I will end up unable to work, unable to bring in the money that is needed to take care of my six-member family. This makes me feel worthless. I WANT to work. I WANT to finish school and get my nursing degree. I want to cook dinner for my family, clean the kitchen and walk the dog. What if I can't? Then what the hell am I?

Chris is of course incredibly wonderful. He is my strength and my comfort. But he worries, and he is only human. He stresses about the effects of the medicines, about the increasing deterioration of my condition, and of course about his wife saying shit like "I want to die." When I let everything get to me like this, I know it upsets him. Which makes me feel more isolated, more like a piece of shit.

I don't even know why I'm posting this, and I'm sure I'll regret it. I just want someone to tell me to snap out of it. Tell me to see the light at the end of the tunnel, even if I have to scratch and dig the goddamn tunnel myself. Tell me there are people who have it worse than I do and they still find a way. Tell me something good, Chaka.
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Also, you can take this anger, rage and frustration and go to one of those town hall meetings and assinate the stupid assholes who are trying to make it so that Americans are FORCED to be at the beck and call and whims of the insurance companies smile My grandma would approve lol
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Reply #41 posted 08/11/09 11:54am

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PunkMistress said:

You all have no idea how much each post in this thread means to me, as well as each Orgnote I've received.

I'm reading each one and you all are uplifting me, humbling me and encouraging me to press on. That is priceless. I will report back later, after I've spoken to someone at EDNF.

I'm on my way to work, but all day I'll be thankful for your prayers, your encouragement, for reading this whole thing in the first place. lol

grouphug

OK, I realize you probably poo poo such things, but I pulled a card from the tarot without your permission lol

Queen of Cups

Remember that life is about more than your day-to-day job and worries. Take time to examine spiritual beliefs. Don't get bogged down by trivial details or the demands of others.

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Reply #42 posted 08/11/09 2:01pm

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my thoughts are with you! i hope you'll be able to find a good doctor that will be caring and have knowledge of your illness. rose
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Reply #43 posted 08/11/09 2:38pm

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thekidsgirl said:

God Erin, I don't know what to say sad I wish I could reach through the computer and give you a big, pervy hug right now. My cousin is going through a similar situation with his healthcare provider to get treatment for his Crohn's disease.
Have you thought about switching to a new insurance provider?


It's the only provider offered by my job, but I'm getting documentation together to try and appeal their decision not to pay.
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Reply #44 posted 08/11/09 2:42pm

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Anxiety said:

contacting the organization that was listed in this thread would be a great start. have you googled to see if there are any online support groups or bulletin boards? you might be able to find some very useful support that way.

i hope you get some relief AND some useful results soon. hug


Thank you tons.

I have found online support groups, but they frankly scare the shit out of me because so many of the members are moderately to severely disabled. I know that sounds arrogant as shit, especially coming from someone who chooses to work with people with disabilities. confused But it still scares me and I don't like dealing with it. So there, Internet Support Group!
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Reply #45 posted 08/11/09 2:49pm

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your health system sucks so bad. I'd suggest coming to live here, but until you have permanent residency you're no better off financially sad


This is true, unfortunately I have found that being on disability gives me the help I need. When I am ready I can go back to work and still be on disability but I have to be careful or I will loose my state and federal insurance that I believe all Americans should have. pray hug kiss2
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Reply #46 posted 08/11/09 3:35pm

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Sorry to hear about your troubles, I hope you get the support you need. It's crazy that you have to fight so hard to get the required medication. sad
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Reply #47 posted 08/11/09 3:44pm

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Even if you did "die" at least you had a family. Thats more than many have. God bless Get better
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Reply #48 posted 08/11/09 4:21pm

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hug
Le prego di non toccare la macchina per favore!
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Reply #49 posted 08/11/09 4:30pm

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I wish you well.
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Reply #50 posted 08/12/09 1:55pm

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So sorry to see this Erin. rose
You always seem like the picture of pure health, everytime I have seen you post a picture. You are a very strong person indeed to be going through this. My brother in law needs some medical attention for an enlarged prostate, and he has no insurance, and does not qualify for medi-cal since he owns his own home. Life can be a fuck. My heart and thoughts are coming out to you. rose
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Reply #51 posted 08/12/09 2:14pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

So sorry to see this Erin. rose
You always seem like the picture of pure health, everytime I have seen you post a picture. You are a very strong person indeed to be going through this. My brother in law needs some medical attention for an enlarged prostate, and he has no insurance, and does not qualify for medi-cal since he owns his own home. Life can be a fuck. My heart and thoughts are coming out to you. rose


YES!

Life can be a fuck indeed!

My mood is much better today. And it's good to know I don't look sickly. lol I like to think I do a very good job of putting on a brave face. Well, it's not really a brave face; I do really enjoy my life most of the time. I'm extremely blessed and really happy. This is just a shitty part of it, and it was just weighing on me really heavily this week.

I'm shaking it off. I'm lucky to have so much support.

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Reply #52 posted 08/12/09 5:18pm

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I don't know you but I wish you all the best!
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Reply #53 posted 08/13/09 12:19am

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sad hug

I hope you get the info and help you need very soon, pray I can't even imagine.

I am thankful that you are surrounded by such a loving family, sometimes that alone makes the biggest difference to keep striving for an answer. Stay strong.
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Reply #54 posted 08/13/09 6:01am

Mach

PunkMistress said:

abigail05 said:

not to sound like an idiot, but would pot help? weed

at any rate, I will pray for you PM


It does help. It relieves some of the pain, it takes care of the nausea that the pain pills sometimes cause, and it helps with depression too.

BUT, many doctors around here will give you a drug test before prescribing any pain meds. If you test positive for anything illegal you're shit out of luck. So I can get drunk off my ass every night if I want to, but I'd better not smoke any harmless plants if I want them to give me some liver-killing drugs. falloff


It's so ass backwards


hug

I can add your name to our Reiki healing circle (?)

Sending you love and as always my best wishes

rose
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Reply #55 posted 08/27/09 2:28pm

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Happy update:

Thanks to some help from my sainted mother, I paid the doctor bill last week. After some struggling and wrangling, I am now my doctor's patient again and picked my meds up today. I feel so, so much better. Going to work all week without pain medicine sucked. I work with severely disabled people and my job is very physical. Plus we were very short-staffed this week, so my co-workers weren't there to pick up the slack.

Anyway, I'm not cured and never will be, but my pain is managed for now - YAY! I feel human again.. I can take care of my husband and kids instead of them having to take care of me.

Thanks again to everyone for your support when I was feeling so low.

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Reply #56 posted 08/27/09 2:41pm

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PunkMistress said:

Happy update:

Thanks to some help from my sainted mother, I paid the doctor bill last week. After some struggling and wrangling, I am now my doctor's patient again and picked my meds up today. I feel so, so much better. Going to work all week without pain medicine sucked. I work with severely disabled people and my job is very physical. Plus we were very short-staffed this week, so my co-workers weren't there to pick up the slack.

Anyway, I'm not cured and never will be, but my pain is managed for now - YAY! I feel human again.. I can take care of my husband and kids instead of them having to take care of me.

Thanks again to everyone for your support when I was feeling so low.

grouphug


That's fantastic news! hug

I'm sorry I missed this thread the first time around. I had no idea. sad
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Reply #57 posted 08/27/09 2:44pm

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That's great!

woot!
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Reply #58 posted 08/27/09 3:40pm

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PunkMistress said:

Happy update:

Thanks to some help from my sainted mother, I paid the doctor bill last week. After some struggling and wrangling, I am now my doctor's patient again and picked my meds up today. I feel so, so much better. Going to work all week without pain medicine sucked. I work with severely disabled people and my job is very physical. Plus we were very short-staffed this week, so my co-workers weren't there to pick up the slack.

Anyway, I'm not cured and never will be, but my pain is managed for now - YAY! I feel human again.. I can take care of my husband and kids instead of them having to take care of me.

Thanks again to everyone for your support when I was feeling so low.

grouphug
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