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Reply #30 posted 08/10/09 3:08pm

Serious

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I was there only once for 12 days and while it was nice I cannot say that it was so special IMO shrug.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #31 posted 08/10/09 3:26pm

Lammastide

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I know you're a female, Tonylover, but here's a relevant song for you...

"New York Is A Woman," by Suzanne Vega

New York City spread herself before you
With her bangles and her spangles and her stars
You were impressed with the city so undressed
You had to go out cruising all the bars

Your business trip extended through the weekend
Suburban boy here for your first time
From the 27th floor above the midtown roar
You were dazzled by her beauty and her crime

And she's every girl you've seen in every movie
Every dame you've ever known on late night TV
In her steam and steel is the passion you feel
Endlessly
New York is a woman she'll make you cry
And to her you're just another guy

Look down and see her ruined places
Smoke and ash still rising to the sky
She's happy that you're here but when you disappear
She won't know that you're gone to say goodbye

And she's every girl you've seen in every movie
Every dame you've ever known on late night tv
In her steam and steel is the passion you feel
Desperately
New York is a woman she'll make you cry
And to her you're just another guy

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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #32 posted 08/10/09 3:27pm

uPtoWnNY

PDogz said:

If you're coming here to NYC, make sure you have a TON of money, and a thick skin, or you'll be longing for home in no-time flat. nod



Exactly. Folks, don't bother coming here without serious L-O-O-T!!!
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Reply #33 posted 08/10/09 4:03pm

psychodelicide

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I would NEVER want to live in NYC.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #34 posted 08/10/09 4:04pm

Lammastide

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Just to give you a picture...

One source I found says that for July 2009, the average monthly rental price for a studio in Manhattan was $1,774; $2,406 for a one bedroom; $3,362 for a two bedroom; $4,648 for a three bedroom. Moreover, landlords often ask for the first AND last month's rent upfront. You will likely need to employ a broker, whose fee would be about 15% of your rent. (Finding a decent NYC apartment on your own is damned-near-impossible as I understand it.) And landlords routinely want your annual salary to be at least 40 times your monthly rent. If you don't make that kind of money, you could get a guarantor... but that person often must demonstrate they annually make 80 times your proposed monthly rent.
These costs would, of course, be a bit lower in the other four burroughs, but they definitely ain't cheap either.

In other words, you'll need pretty big loot, a sugar daddy or about 10 willing roommates. lol

And don't forget...

* Utilities at, say, $200/monthly
* Weekly or monthly groceries
* Transportation expenses (Lord forbid you have a car and need to buy gas... and pay auto insurance.. and park it! shake)
* Medical/dental/vision insurance, unless your job covers you
* Fees attached to your visa and any necessary renewals
* Any incidentals

People somehow do survive in NYC, so it's clearly possible. But it's a challenge, especially for a newcomer.
[Edited 8/11/09 17:38pm]
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #35 posted 08/10/09 4:10pm

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Lammastide said:

Just to give you a picture...

One source I found says that for July 2009, the average monthly rental price for a studio in Manhattan was $1,774; $2,406 for a one bedroom; $3,362 for a two bedroom; $4,648 for a three bedroom. Moreover, landlords often ask for the first AND last month's rent upfront. You will likely need to employ a broker, whose fee would be about 15% of your rent. (Finding a decent NYC apartment on your own is damned-near-impossible as I understand it). And landlords would probably want your annual salary to be at least 40 times your monthly rent. If you don't make that kind of money, you could get a guarantor... but that person often must demonstrate they annually make 80 times your proposed monthly rent.
These costs would, of course, be a bit lower in the other four burroughs, but they definitely ain't cheap either.

In other words, you'll need pretty big loot, a sugar daddy or about 10 willing roommates. lol

And don't forget...

* Monthly utilities at about, say, $200/monthly
* Weekly or monthly groceries
* Transportation expenses (Lord forbid you have a car shake)
* Medical/dental/vision insurance, unless your job covers you
* Fees attached to your visa and any necessary renewals
* Any incidentals

People somehow do survive in NYC, so it's clearly possible. But it's definitely a challenge, especially for a newcomer.
[Edited 8/10/09 16:09pm]


eek Vienna sure is a nice city to live in nod lol.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #36 posted 08/10/09 4:13pm

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Serious said:

Lammastide said:

Just to give you a picture...

One source I found says that for July 2009, the average monthly rental price for a studio in Manhattan was $1,774; $2,406 for a one bedroom; $3,362 for a two bedroom; $4,648 for a three bedroom. Moreover, landlords often ask for the first AND last month's rent upfront. You will likely need to employ a broker, whose fee would be about 15% of your rent. (Finding a decent NYC apartment on your own is damned-near-impossible as I understand it). And landlords would probably want your annual salary to be at least 40 times your monthly rent. If you don't make that kind of money, you could get a guarantor... but that person often must demonstrate they annually make 80 times your proposed monthly rent.
These costs would, of course, be a bit lower in the other four burroughs, but they definitely ain't cheap either.

In other words, you'll need pretty big loot, a sugar daddy or about 10 willing roommates. lol

And don't forget...

* Monthly utilities at about, say, $200/monthly
* Weekly or monthly groceries
* Transportation expenses (Lord forbid you have a car shake)
* Medical/dental/vision insurance, unless your job covers you
* Fees attached to your visa and any necessary renewals
* Any incidentals

People somehow do survive in NYC, so it's clearly possible. But it's definitely a challenge, especially for a newcomer.
[Edited 8/10/09 16:09pm]


eek Vienna sure is a nice city to live in nod lol.

I swear! lol

I complain that Toronto is expensive coming from Ohio. But I thank GOD it's not nearly as bad as NYC!!
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #37 posted 08/10/09 4:14pm

Lammastide

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That said, I love a lot about New York... but I sooooo don't think I could live there. confused
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #38 posted 08/10/09 5:26pm

DanceWme

thekidsgirl said:

RenHoek said:



cheaper too!

lol


Steph is going to come visit me everytime she rides the L train...Hopefully she'll bring fries! They're the only things the rats like more that human flesh

i dont ride the L train so ha! .. hah!
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Reply #39 posted 08/10/09 5:38pm

thekidsgirl

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DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:



Steph is going to come visit me everytime she rides the L train...Hopefully she'll bring fries! They're the only things the rats like more that human flesh

i dont ride the L train so ha! .. hah!


sad well what about the J? Will you come visit me if I live in the J tunnel!! Don't leave me down there forever!
If you will, so will I
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Reply #40 posted 08/10/09 5:42pm

ZombieKitten

DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:



Steph is going to come visit me everytime she rides the L train...Hopefully she'll bring fries! They're the only things the rats like more that human flesh

i dont ride the L train so ha! .. hah!

is the L train the grey one?
hmmm
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Reply #41 posted 08/10/09 5:44pm

DanceWme

thekidsgirl said:

DanceWme said:


i dont ride the L train so ha! .. hah!


sad well what about the J? Will you come visit me if I live in the J tunnel!! Don't leave me down there forever!

neutral

i wouldnt let u live in the train station. U can stay with me hug
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Reply #42 posted 08/10/09 5:46pm

DanceWme

ZombieKitten said:

DanceWme said:


i dont ride the L train so ha! .. hah!

is the L train the grey one?
hmmm

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Reply #43 posted 08/10/09 5:46pm

evenstar3

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new york is dirty talk to the hand gimme london any day.
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Reply #44 posted 08/10/09 5:47pm

DanceWme

evenstar3 said:

new york is dirty talk to the hand gimme london any day.

i'm clean batting eyes
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Reply #45 posted 08/10/09 5:50pm

thekidsgirl

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DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:



sad well what about the J? Will you come visit me if I live in the J tunnel!! Don't leave me down there forever!

neutral

i wouldnt let u live in the train station. U can stay with me hug



mushy well if I were to ever find my way out, you'd be the first person I'd call then smile
If you will, so will I
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Reply #46 posted 08/10/09 5:52pm

DanceWme

thekidsgirl said:

DanceWme said:


neutral

i wouldnt let u live in the train station. U can stay with me hug



mushy well if I were to ever find my way out, you'd be the first person I'd call then smile

woot!

u can sleep under the kitchen sink. im sure there is a rat friend down there u can play with hug
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Reply #47 posted 08/10/09 5:56pm

TD3

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vainandy said:

Honey, I can't even get there and I'm in Mississippi. You're coming from around the world. Good luck. You're gonna need some money. lol



you are a fool... lol falloff


I lived/worked in NYC for two years love the job, kinda loved the city but in the end just too many dang people, for me.
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Reply #48 posted 08/10/09 5:57pm

thekidsgirl

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DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:




mushy well if I were to ever find my way out, you'd be the first person I'd call then smile

woot!

u can sleep under the kitchen sink. im sure there is a rat friend down there u can play with hug


That's too cramped! Ralph the rat and I would be practically spooning. sad
If you will, so will I
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Reply #49 posted 08/10/09 5:59pm

DanceWme

thekidsgirl said:

DanceWme said:


woot!

u can sleep under the kitchen sink. im sure there is a rat friend down there u can play with hug


That's too cramped! Ralph the rat and I would be practically spooning. sad

if thats what u like sweety, i promise i wont judge u. promise.
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Reply #50 posted 08/10/09 6:00pm

thekidsgirl

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DanceWme said:

thekidsgirl said:



That's too cramped! Ralph the rat and I would be practically spooning. sad

if thats what u like sweety, i promise i wont judge u. promise.


lol damn, I was better off lost under ground lol
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Reply #51 posted 08/10/09 6:02pm

DanceWme

thekidsgirl said:

DanceWme said:


if thats what u like sweety, i promise i wont judge u. promise.


lol damn, I was better off lost under ground lol

falloff
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Reply #52 posted 08/11/09 6:48am

uPtoWnNY

Lammastide said:

Just to give you a picture...

One source I found says that for July 2009, the average monthly rental price for a studio in Manhattan was $1,774; $2,406 for a one bedroom; $3,362 for a two bedroom; $4,648 for a three bedroom. Moreover, landlords often ask for the first AND last month's rent upfront. You will likely need to employ a broker, whose fee would be about 15% of your rent. (Finding a decent NYC apartment on your own is damned-near-impossible as I understand it.) And landlords routinely want your annual salary to be at least 40 times your monthly rent. If you don't make that kind of money, you could get a guarantor... but that person often must demonstrate they annually make 80 times your proposed monthly rent.
These costs would, of course, be a bit lower in the other four burroughs, but they definitely ain't cheap either.

In other words, you'll need pretty big loot, a sugar daddy or about 10 willing roommates. lol

And don't forget...

* Monthly utilities at about, say, $200/monthly
* Weekly or monthly groceries
* Transportation expenses (Lord forbid you have a car and need to buy gas... and park it! shake)
* Medical/dental/vision insurance, unless your job covers you
* Fees attached to your visa and any necessary renewals
* Any incidentals

People somehow do survive in NYC, so it's clearly possible. But it's a challenge, especially for a newcomer.
[Edited 8/10/09 16:16pm]


You have to be either very rich or very poor to live in Manhattan. You're better off living in the outer boroughs and commuting into NYC.
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Reply #53 posted 08/11/09 6:51am

CarrieLee

Go for it! Where there's a will, there's a way! Although it is expensive I wouldn't discourage you from trying to do it. If this is what you want then make it happen.

Good luck!
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Reply #54 posted 08/11/09 8:13am

Ottensen

TonyVanDam said:

Tonylover said:

Seriously folks, I ain't kidding.

How hard is it gonna be for me (an Aussie) to LIVE and WORK in NYC?? I will apply for a Working Visa. Honestly I don't care if I'm a bum, I just wanna be where it's at!!! I'm gonna work my arse off until June next year to save enough cash to get my arse outta here.

What neighbourhood would you recommend to live, keeping in mind the price range and the fact I'm a clueless foreigner? Where's cool to eat?

How easy will it be to get a waitressing/cafe/bartender/shopkeeper job? I'm not looking to begin my career in NYC, I just want to experience something different and live a little for atleast a year. And I need a part-time job to support my habit (fun times).

I was planning to register for the Green Card Lottery, but I think I'm too late. Bummer sad

Share the love people smile Tell me how much y'all love NYC - is it the greatest city in the world??

I'm so bloody excited, I'm practically jumping out of my pants.

Christina xx


I think Miami is a better deal than NYC, budget pending.



But much more corrupt politically and socially....and hurricane season is a pain in the ass.
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Reply #55 posted 08/11/09 9:10am

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New York is awesome. It's an amazing city that never ceases to provide, as far as I'm concerned. The architecture, the culture, the people, the sights, the sheer audacity of it all...it adds up to magic, and I love being part of that energy.

Tonylover, if it's your dream, I hope you get to make it happen. I don't know anything about the green card/visa issues, so I can't help you out there at all. And of course New York has been hit hard by the economy, so jobs are tough and you'd probably have to be living here before anyone would even think of considering you for employment, so accomplishing this might be really difficult.

But if you really want to do it, and you know going in that you're going to be taking several big chances, you can accomplish it. You can always check out Craigslist for roommate opportunities, which would probably be more affordable and convenient for you (although more risky, since you'd be taking a chance on strangers).

Start working through every connection you have: parents, siblings, friends, colleagues, whatever. If you know anyone who knows someone in New York, you might be able to get help that way. Start asking people you know and trust and tell them what you want to do--they might be able to help you out.

I hope it works out for you!
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Reply #56 posted 08/11/09 11:28am

Lammastide

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CarrieLee said:

Go for it! Where there's a will, there's a way! Although it is expensive I wouldn't discourage you from trying to do it. If this is what you want then make it happen.

Good luck!

hmmm I've been thinking, and I actually do like this sentiment. I've wanted to move to certain places for a long time, but have been discouraged for any number of reasons.

By all means, Tonylover, if this is a dream, pursue it! I've only wanted to set the context so you have some insight into what your challenge is.

Godspeed.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #57 posted 08/11/09 12:41pm

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Lammastide said:

CarrieLee said:

Go for it! Where there's a will, there's a way! Although it is expensive I wouldn't discourage you from trying to do it. If this is what you want then make it happen.

Good luck!

hmmm I've been thinking, and I actually do like this sentiment. I've wanted to move to certain places for a long time, but have been discouraged for any number of reasons.

By all means, Tonylover, if this is a dream, pursue it! I've only wanted to set the context so you have some insight into what your challenge is.

Godspeed.
[Edited 8/11/09 11:29am]


hmmm If it really is a dream then it's better to give it a try then to regret later and wonder what could have been. But maybe I am only saying that because I am living like that right now shrug.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #58 posted 08/11/09 2:46pm

PDogz

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Efan said:

New York is awesome. It's an amazing city that never ceases to provide, as far as I'm concerned. The architecture, the culture, the people, the sights, the sheer audacity of it all...it adds up to magic, and I love being part of that energy.

Tonylover, if it's your dream, I hope you get to make it happen. I don't know anything about the green card/visa issues, so I can't help you out there at all. And of course New York has been hit hard by the economy, so jobs are tough and you'd probably have to be living here before anyone would even think of considering you for employment, so accomplishing this might be really difficult.

But if you really want to do it, and you know going in that you're going to be taking several big chances, you can accomplish it. You can always check out Craigslist for roommate opportunities, which would probably be more affordable and convenient for you (although more risky, since you'd be taking a chance on strangers).

Start working through every connection you have: parents, siblings, friends, colleagues, whatever. If you know anyone who knows someone in New York, you might be able to get help that way. Start asking people you know and trust and tell them what you want to do--they might be able to help you out.

I hope it works out for you!

Excellent advice. nod
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Reply #59 posted 08/11/09 4:10pm

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if Madonna can do it so can you! what did she have when she arrived? $25? what's that after inflation hmmm
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