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Thread started 08/05/09 8:00am

NMuzakNSoul

time to vent

i can't believe this i'm so pissed off.

my sister wanted to go for a study to Japan and saved money and put a lot of hard work and effort into getting there, (she's 19 and went by herself) she's been there for almost 5 weeks now everything was going well. she had a blast and made tons of pictures showing us and she looked so happy... made tons of new friends having the time of her life, i was so happy for her. she studied the language by herself and was making process everday.

on to last night...

she went to a club she has been going a few times before, she was talking to a dude that she saw there a few times before, everything seemed to be going well...

between 8 pm and 12 pm she has no recollection of anything that happened. most likely that dude she was talking to put something in her drink, she woke up puking in an internet cafe hours later confused and scared, and she run to her apartment. then today she saw pictures online of herself kissing this same dude and she has no recollection of ANY of that happening... she thinks she wasn't raped but isnt sure.

here i am in the netherlands super pissed off that they did this to my baby sister. I thank God she's still alive. but I'm so upset.they ruined her wonderful trip she saved for... she just wants to come home now and I fully understand.

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Reply #1 posted 08/05/09 8:10am

Imago

Oh Jesus! sad
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I have no words. I've been offered drinks on many occasions in Bangkok and I always refuse and get my own. I'm always weary of folks slipping something in my drink. I always leave a couple of credit cards back at the house or hotel just in case someone pick pockets me too.

Have her go to the hospital to get examined.

I'm really really sorry. Just terrible.
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Reply #2 posted 08/05/09 8:13am

MrsMdiver

OMG that is terrible.

I agree with Imago. She needs to get checked out.

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Sorry for you and your sis.

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Reply #3 posted 08/05/09 8:19am

Aelis

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I am so sorry to hear that.
What these substances can do is horrifying disbelief
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Reply #4 posted 08/05/09 8:22am

Serious

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Oh wow, I am so sorry to hear that pat.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #5 posted 08/05/09 8:23am

Harlepolis

See, shit like this enrages me,,,,,I'm really sorry to hear that NMuzak, did she contact the police or at least went to the hospital and checked herself?

I hope everything is alright,,,,,and I can't imagine what your sis went through.
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Reply #6 posted 08/05/09 8:27am

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I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your sister. I hope she picks herself up and does not allow this to mess up her experience. rose

It is creeps like the guy your sister ran into that women need not to let their guards down when clubbing. This is not to judge your sister in any way, we all make mistakes, and I don't want her blaming herself, or walking around in fear.

OK, this HAS to be said, to anyone reading this, if you are a young and a beautiful lady in any club, you HAVE to use the sister-gurl network.

The sister-gurl network is when you bring a friend to keep and eye on you. This helps with situations when a guy gets too grabby, if a friend has had one too many, or any other bad situation that might arise. Safety first! If you go together you ladies leave together, never leave the club with a stranger. If you don't have a trusted friend to go out with, then its best to stick to other activities and leave the night clubs alone.
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Reply #7 posted 08/05/09 8:31am

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I would be just as angry if I heard about this too hug
I hope she goes to get examined at the hospital as was suggested earlier...
...does she know him by name? is there any way she can report it to the authorities? (not sure if they're shady or not...)
rose
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[...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...]
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Reply #8 posted 08/05/09 9:35am

NMuzakNSoul

thanks everyone for the replies and orgnotes i appreciate it a lot will reply properly when i gathered my thoughts. smile
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Reply #9 posted 08/05/09 10:21am

missfee

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NMuzakNSoul said:

i can't believe this i'm so pissed off.

my sister wanted to go for a study to Japan and saved money and put a lot of hard work and effort into getting there, (she's 19 and went by herself) she's been there for almost 5 weeks now everything was going well. she had a blast and made tons of pictures showing us and she looked so happy... made tons of new friends having the time of her life, i was so happy for her. she studied the language by herself and was making process everday.

on to last night...

she went to a club she has been going a few times before, she was talking to a dude that she saw there a few times before, everything seemed to be going well...

between 8 pm and 12 pm she has no recollection of anything that happened. most likely that dude she was talking to put something in her drink, she woke up puking in an internet cafe hours later confused and scared, and she run to her apartment. then today she saw pictures online of herself kissing this same dude and she has no recollection of ANY of that happening... she thinks she wasn't raped but isnt sure.

here i am in the netherlands super pissed off that they did this to my baby sister. I thank God she's still alive. but I'm so upset.they ruined her wonderful trip she saved for... she just wants to come home now and I fully understand.

sigh

omg I can understand your frustration! That was terrible. Yes she does still need to get checked out pronto! The sooner the better. Did she go to this club alone? Next time she goes out at night, especially to somewhere like a club, she shouldn't go by herself and she should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS watch her drink, she should never put it down. If she wants to go dancing, then tell her to put it down and forget about it. If she wants another drink after dancing tell her to just buy another one.
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #10 posted 08/05/09 10:22am

missfee

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paintedlady said:

I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your sister. I hope she picks herself up and does not allow this to mess up her experience. rose

It is creeps like the guy your sister ran into that women need not to let their guards down when clubbing. This is not to judge your sister in any way, we all make mistakes, and I don't want her blaming herself, or walking around in fear.

OK, this HAS to be said, to anyone reading this, if you are a young and a beautiful lady in any club, you HAVE to use the sister-gurl network.

The sister-gurl network is when you bring a friend to keep and eye on you. This helps with situations when a guy gets too grabby, if a friend has had one too many, or any other bad situation that might arise. Safety first! If you go together you ladies leave together, never leave the club with a stranger. If you don't have a trusted friend to go out with, then its best to stick to other activities and leave the night clubs alone.

nod YES!!!
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #11 posted 08/05/09 10:28am

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what a nightmare! sad hug I hope she'll be okay
If you will, so will I
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Reply #12 posted 08/05/09 10:30am

NMuzakNSoul

thats the part me and my parents are confused about too where were her friends or people watching her? anyway, she's gonna go home friday and the trip back is booked. my father took care of it and i understand how they feel. she''s gonna go see a doctor there most likely and the school she attented has been supportive and are going to the police. some great teachers there.
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Reply #13 posted 08/05/09 10:33am

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I hope your sister is alright. rose
I really hope she can get herself together and continue her journey and not let some creep ruin all her hard work to get there.
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Reply #14 posted 08/05/09 12:16pm

paintedlady

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NMuzakNSoul said:

thats the part me and my parents are confused about too where were her friends or people watching her? anyway, she's gonna go home friday and the trip back is booked. my father took care of it and i understand how they feel. she''s gonna go see a doctor there most likely and the school she attented has been supportive and are going to the police. some great teachers there.

That's so good to hear that her school is being supportive in this situation. That helps so much.

I think her friends have tons of regret now, and I hope they learn to be more watchful of each other, even bolder so they as a group are better protected.

sad Its sad our girls can't never really be carefree in public places.
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Reply #15 posted 08/05/09 12:34pm

Nothinbutjoy

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Nothing more to add to this other than a most heartfelt hug to you, your sister and your family.

It's heartbreaking to have something like this happen.

All of you are in my prayers. I pray that your sister finds strength through this experience and that she is uplifted by the love and caring of your entire family.


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Reply #16 posted 08/05/09 12:46pm

Alej

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Oh gawd disbelief That's just wrong confused

hug yew and yo sister

rose
The orger formerly known as theodore
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Reply #17 posted 08/05/09 1:00pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

Ughhhh!!!!! Fucking asshole!!!!

I'm sorry I had to curse on such a sensitive thread but that is horrible!!!!!
I hope your sister is hanging in there. Luckily there's a picture of the guy that may have done this to her. She needs to call the authorities.
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #18 posted 08/05/09 4:04pm

fingertips

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thankfull shes alive n safe .. sick fuks out there..
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Reply #19 posted 08/05/09 4:16pm

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NMuzakNSoul said:

thats the part me and my parents are confused about too where were her friends or people watching her? anyway, she's gonna go home friday and the trip back is booked. my father took care of it and i understand how they feel. she''s gonna go see a doctor there most likely and the school she attented has been supportive and are going to the police. some great teachers there.

hug that's great she is speaking out about it, but what a shame to cut her trip short, the trip of a lifetime has been turned into something she probably won't want to think about down the track cry
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Reply #20 posted 08/05/09 4:25pm

Vendetta1

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Since she has a pic of the asshole, she should go to the police.
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Reply #21 posted 08/05/09 4:35pm

babynoz

Sorry to hear this terrible news and I hope your sister follows up with a doctor visit and police report. Let us know how she's doing.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #22 posted 08/05/09 10:00pm

NMuzakNSoul

Thanks everyone. hug I really appreciate all of the messages hugs and well wishes, it helped alot. Thanks to everyone that posted and left me an orgnote.

My sister is doing a little better, she has a big heart, with everything going on she sad "oh yeah gotta bring you guys a souvenir back home çause I didn't yet" she really is a sweet person I'm proud she's my sister. smile

I will keep you guys updated.
[Edited 8/5/09 22:02pm]
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Reply #23 posted 08/06/09 1:09am

Aelis

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NMuzakNSoul said:

Thanks everyone. hug I really appreciate all of the messages hugs and well wishes, it helped alot. Thanks to everyone that posted and left me an orgnote.

My sister is doing a little better, she has a big heart, with everything going on she sad "oh yeah gotta bring you guys a souvenir back home çause I didn't yet" she really is a sweet person I'm proud she's my sister. smile

I will keep you guys updated.
[Edited 8/5/09 22:02pm]


biggrin See, everything will be okay.
She certainly has learned from it and will definitely be more careful in the future nod
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Reply #24 posted 08/10/09 12:47pm

NMuzakNSoul

Well my sister got home on friday and i gave her a 30 sec big big hug. she's holding up well, she brought gifts for everyone. it's great to see her and have her here again. she will go to her home doctor soon to talk and have additional examination. most likely she wasn't abused and only kissed with him while under the influence.

i'm not sure if the japanese police caught this dude yet but i know they're very strict and take it very seriously.

check it

can't go wrong with my Dragonball-Z action figure!!!! cool biggrin

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Reply #25 posted 08/10/09 1:15pm

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DAMN. eek sigh hug

Sorry to hear this, Nick sad - and I hope this doesn't affect her confidence. I'm glad she's safely home and has you to look out for her. Take care, mate. hug
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Reply #26 posted 08/10/09 2:17pm

NMuzakNSoul

onenitealone said:

DAMN. eek sigh hug

Sorry to hear this, Nick sad - and I hope this doesn't affect her confidence. I'm glad she's safely home and has you to look out for her. Take care, mate. hug


thanks and it's much appreciated. i hope she keeps her confidence also, she seems to be doing well! thanks again man.
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Reply #27 posted 08/10/09 2:25pm

onenitealone

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NMuzakNSoul said:

thanks and it's much appreciated. i hope she keeps her confidence also, she seems to be doing well! thanks again man.


You're welcome. hug
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Reply #28 posted 08/10/09 2:30pm

johnart

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I'm so sorry to hear this. sad
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Reply #29 posted 08/10/09 2:43pm

NMuzakNSoul

Most family members of mine think because of the amount of time she can't recollect and woke up puking it's most likely a party drug known as GHB. other names include Liquid Ecstasy, Liquid X and Liquid G.

GHB is a CNS depressant used as an intoxicant. It has many street names, including Liquid Ecstasy, Liquid X and Liquid G. At recreational doses, GHB can cause a state of euphoria, increased enjoyment of movement and music, increased libido, increased sociability and intoxication. At higher doses, GHB may induce nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, agitation, visual disturbances, depressed breathing, amnesia, unconsciousness, and death. The effects of GHB can last from 1.5 to 3 hours, or even longer if large doses have been consumed or if it is mixed with alcohol.[citation needed]

In general, the doses used recreationally are between 500 mg and 3000 mg, corresponding to approximately 0.5–3 mL of liquid if the concentration is 1 gram / 1 mL (which is not always the case). When used as a recreational drug, GHB may be found as the sodium or potassium salt, which is a white crystalline powder, or as GHB salt dissolved in water to form a clear solution—generally at a concentration of 1 gram / 1 mL and so is twice the strength of the Xyrem solution sold legally for medical use. The sodium salt of GHB has a thin, very salty, chemical taste.[citation needed]

GHB salt dissolved in water is potentially dangerous, as the concentration of GHB may not be known, and so the actual dose of GHB being consumed can be difficult to judge accurately. Since GHB sold for recreational use is subject to no standardisation it can be impossible to verify the actual concentration of GHB solution bought on the illicit market. Other salt forms such as calcium GHB and magnesium GHB have also been reported, but the sodium salt is by far the most common.

Some chemicals convert to GHB in the stomach and blood. GBL, or gamma-butyrolactone, is one such prodrug. Other prodrugs include 1,4-butanediol. There may be additional toxicity concerns with these precursors. 1,4-B and GBL are normally found as pure liquids, although they may be mixed with other more harmful solvents when intended for industrial use, e.g., as paint stripper or varnish thinner.

GHB can be produced in clandestine labs, and it is claimed that most of the GHB used in the U.S. is illegally manufactured within its borders. While available as a prescription for sleep disorders in some other countries, GHB was banned (in the U.S.) by the FDA in 1990 because of the dangers associated with its use. However, on July 17, 2002 GHB was approved for treatment of cataplexy, often associated with narcolepsy. GHB is "colourless and odorless".[28]
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