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Thread started 08/05/09 5:59am

Graycap23

Gunman kills 4 in L.A. Fitness

A gunman walked into an LA Fitness gym outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, turned off the lights and fired off 50 rounds, killing three women before killing himself Tuesday evening.

WTH is going on in the U.S.??
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Reply #1 posted 08/05/09 6:07am

tinaz

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WHAT! What the hell is wrong with people... DAMN! You want to die, fine... Why take innocent people with you, those women probably had children at home!... I dont get it....
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Reply #2 posted 08/05/09 6:12am

KoolEaze

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Too much sodium and chemtrails. And fluoridization of your tapwater.
And personal and financial problems probably. Or just plain frustration. Or jealousy and rejected love?
Who knows?


I feel very sorry for those poor women who got in the line of fire for no reason at all.
" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #3 posted 08/05/09 6:19am

1sexymf

I can not believe that! omg
I cna not imagine being in a class and the next thing u know, you're being shot at. omfg

You can even go to the gym without worrying about that kind of BS.

And of course, the coward killed himself.
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Reply #4 posted 08/05/09 6:57am

Mach

Gun kills 4 in L.A. Fitness


a "gun" - all by itself huh ?

Anyway

Sympathy for the families rose
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Reply #5 posted 08/05/09 7:02am

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

WTH is going on in the U.S.??


Just business as usual. Shit was just as fucked-up 50, 100, 200 years ago.
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Reply #6 posted 08/05/09 7:02am

Mach

lol you fixed it

hug
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Reply #7 posted 08/05/09 7:08am

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

WTH is going on in the U.S.??


Just business as usual. Shit was just as fucked-up 50, 100, 200 years ago.

True:
Gas stations
L.A. Fitness
Wall Mart parking lots
Post offices
Office buildings
Highways and freeways
Home invasions
.....etc.
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Reply #8 posted 08/05/09 7:29am

CarrieLee

I heard about this on the news this morning. I wasn't aware that 3 women died sad

Terrible.
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Reply #9 posted 08/05/09 7:30am

Graycap23

Mach said:

lol you fixed it

hug

My brain moves faster than my typing skills (or lack thereof)
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Reply #10 posted 08/05/09 8:40am

newpower99

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wow this sicko had it planned out for months. so sad for the innocent victims

from cnn.com

>>>"Why do this?? To young girls? Just read below. I kept a running log that includes my thoughts and actions after I saw this project was going to drag on," the diary begins.



His first entry is November 5, 2008.

"Planned to do this in the summer but figure to stick around to see the election outcome," it says.

The December 22 entry says: "Time is moving along. Planned to have this done already. I will just keep a running log here as time passes. Many of the young girls here look so beautiful as to not be human, very edible. After joining this gym, started lifting weights and like it."

Two days later came an entry about loneliness.

"Moving into Christmas again. No girlfriend since 1984, last Christmas with Pam was in 1983. Who knows why. I am not ugly or too weird. No sex since July 1990 either (I was 29)."

By December 26, the writer seems to have picked a date. "I will shoot for Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at maybe 8:15. I have list of to-do items to make."

In an entry dated January 5, he laments, "Every evening I am alone, and then go to bed alone. ... Why should I continue another 20+ years alone? I will just work, come home, eat, maybe do something, then go to bed (alone) for the next day of the same thing. This is the Auschwitz Syndrome, to be in serious pain for so long one thinks it is normal. I cannot wait for tomorrow!"

Then he loses his nerve.

"It is 8:45PM," reads an entry dated January 6. "I chickened out! [Expletive] I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!"

A May 5 entry outlines a technique.

"To pull the exit plan off, it popped into my mind to just use some booze," the entry reads. "After the gym, I stopped at Shop N Save and got a fifth of vodka and a small bottle of Jack Daniels."

The diary recounts a failure with women and a growing anger.

"There are 30 million desirable women in the US (my estimate) and I cannot find one," a May 18 entry reads. "Not one of them finds me attractive. These problems have gotten worse over a 30-year period. I need to expect nothing from me or other people."

The entry from Monday recounts practice for a shooting.

"I took off today, Monday, and tomorrow to practice my routine and make sure it is well polished. I need to work out every detail, there is only one shot. Also I need to be completely immersed into something before I can be successful."


The next day, around 8 p.m., a gunman with a gym bag strode into the LA Fitness gym, turned off the lights and started shooting without saying a word, police said.

Investigators found his body lying atop one of his guns, about 7 feet from a woman he shot. <<<<<
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Reply #11 posted 08/05/09 8:47am

SCNDLS

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BRIDGEVILLE, Pa. – A man who sprayed bullets into a fitness class filled with women, killing three and then himself, apparently kept a Web page in which he wrote about years of rejection by women and an earlier plan for violence at the gym in which he said he "chickened out."

Neighbors described 48-year-old George Sodini as anti-social, and the Web page in his name showcased a resume setting forth his credentials as an unhappy loner. It listed his date of death — Aug. 4, 2009 — and his status of "Never married." The page ended with the words "Death Lives!"

On Tuesday night, the gunman walked into the fitness center, entered a "Latin impact" dance aerobics class and placed a duffel bag on the ground. After pausing a few moments, he took at least two guns out of the bag and started shooting.

Three women were killed and nine people were injured. Police say he may have fired as many as 52 shots before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide.

"He walked right into the room where the shootings occurred as if he knew exactly where he was going," Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said. "I think he went in with the idea of doing what he did."

Authorities on Wednesday identified the gunman as Sodini, of nearby Scott Township. The three women who died were Heidi Overmier, 46, of Carnegie; Elizabeth Gannon, 49, of Pittsburgh; and Jody Billingsley, 38, of Mount Lebanon.

The 4,610-word Web page, on a domain registered in Sodini's name, appeared to be a nine-month chronology of his plans to commit the shooting, his decision to delay it and the process that led to the eventual carnage at the health club Tuesday. Authorities did not immediately confirm that the site belonged to Sodini, but the elaborate nature of the comments suggested authenticity.

"The biggest problem of all is not having relationships or friends, but not being able to achieve and acquire what I desire in those or many other areas," said an entry dated Sunday. "Everthing stays the same regardless of the effert I put in. If I had control over my life then I would be happier. But for about the past 30 years, I have not."

The Web site's author wrote of planning the attack since at least November, and had tried to do it when the same Tuesday-night dance aerobics class he targeted met on Jan. 6.

"It is 8:45PM: I chickened out!" he wrote. "I brought the loaded guns, everything. Hell!"

A neighbor of Sodini's, Connie Fontanesi, said she was interviewed by county detectives Tuesday evening.

"He was so anti-social we really didn't learn anything personal about him," she said.

The violence rocked the suburban Pittsburgh town of about 5,300 residents some eight miles southwest of downtown.

Joann Gazzam, a member of the weekly dance aerobics class, saw the gunman walk to the back of the room near some weights, set down a bag and fumble with it for a few minutes before coming up with what appeared to be two guns and opening fire, according to her sister, Debi Wozniak, of suburban Dormont.

Gazzam told Wozniak that the instructor was among those who appeared to have been shot.

"She told me, 'Debi, I seen everything. Oh, my God, I seen everything. I seen him pull out the guns,'" said Wozniak, who usually attends the class every Tuesday from 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. but was running late and didn't make it. Police say the shooting happened about 8:15 p.m.

The clean-shaven gunman walked in the room wearing workout gear, turned off the lights and, at first nobody knew what was happening, said Stacey Falk, 26, of Bridgeville, who was in the class.

"All of us girls were just ducking behind each other and it was just, you know, I was behind a girl, one of the girls in front to get hit, and when he was in the opposite corner shooting, I booked it," she told WPXI-TV.

The gunman went into the health club planning to shoot several people — firing "multiple" weapons "indiscriminately" — and didn't say anything before unleashing a burst of bullets, Moffatt said. Moffatt said police recovered at least two guns from the scene and a note from the shooter's duffel bag, but he would not say who wrote it.

"I don't think anyone could have stopped him," Moffatt said.

Five of the wounded victims arrived in critical condition at UPMC Mercy Hospital, but three of them were upgraded to serious condition by early Wednesday. Two women remained in fair condition at another Pittsburgh hospital. One victim was treated and released for a shoulder wound and a woman with a bullet wound to the knee remained in stable condition Wednesday.

Loretta Moss, 44, of McDonald, said she was exercising on a treadmill when she heard a popping noise.

"I didn't pay any attention, and the next minute, people were screaming," said Moss, who had come to the gym Tuesday night for the first time in a couple of weeks. She said she then heard more pops.

"There was like a whole spray of them. I'd say about 15 altogether, and then people started screaming and yelling and started running out the building," she said.

"We laid down, and then after the last set of ... gunshots, we got up, and someone said, 'run.'"
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Reply #12 posted 08/05/09 8:48am

SCNDLS

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Here's his blog, punk ass bitch Sodini's blog, http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm

And he was a racist to boot. confused neutral
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Reply #13 posted 08/05/09 8:51am

Imago

JAYSUS CHRIST.

Thanks for the post newpower99. I wonder how pervasive this loneliness is in society.

I watched documentary on realdolls and men who own them, and I was absolutely shocked at the tenderness and care these men bestowed upon these inanimate objects but they couldn't connect with real human beings.

Loneliness must a powerful path to aberration.

I get lonely. I often feel that nobody 'gets' me. It's a weird disconnection I feel all the time even when surrounded by friends and family. But what these guys are feeling is so much more isolating, it's hard for me to get my head around it.

I'm not saying that I feel sorry for a guy that's willing to kill innocent people just because he feels this way---I mean, what's to say he didn't take the life of someone who felt just as isolated as he did? What's to say, he didn't end the life of someone who's having a really bad time in life right now? It's just as selfish as it is cruel to do that--he could have just taken his own life in the privacy of his own house. There obviously was rage there.



Very sad.
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Reply #14 posted 08/05/09 9:43am

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the thing that puzzles me is why take your loneliness out on someone else and why be so cowardly about it. He turned the lights off in the room full of unsuspecting women and the started firing! Those poor women. rose
Where was his big speech to all the ladies who had forgone his love or whatever. This dude had some serious issues.

but uh....who can't hook up at the gym of all places? confuse
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Reply #15 posted 08/05/09 9:48am

Graycap23

This is beyond words. sad
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Reply #16 posted 08/05/09 9:52am

sinisterpentat
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well, that's the wrong way to go about meeting new people.
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Reply #17 posted 08/05/09 9:54am

veronikka

Those poor women cry
Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul
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Reply #18 posted 08/05/09 10:09am

Copycat

He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.
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Reply #19 posted 08/05/09 10:31am

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Copycat said:

He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.



falloff like they need Obama's help.
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Reply #20 posted 08/05/09 10:33am

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Thank God this sick freak is dead. Sad for the innocent people.

Oh yeah, GUNS FOR EVERYONE! biggrin
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Reply #21 posted 08/05/09 10:44am

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that's really scary eek
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Reply #22 posted 08/05/09 10:45am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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matthewgrant said:

that's really scary eek

We aren't safe anywhere in this country. Every situation can become a total free for all disbelief
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Reply #23 posted 08/05/09 10:53am

Graycap23

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He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.

I guess he ASSumed that all brothers want access 2 white women.
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Reply #24 posted 08/05/09 10:57am

Mach

Copycat said:

He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.


What the HELL ? hmm
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Reply #25 posted 08/05/09 11:01am

SCNDLS

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Copycat said:

He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.

Dammit I KNEW I shoulda copied his entire blog and posted it before it came down. He said a lot more than that, racist fucker. In fact his blog starts right after the election and the first post is all about Obama and black guys getting with white "hoes"
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Reply #26 posted 08/05/09 11:21am

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SCNDLS said:

Copycat said:

He complained on his blog (which has been taken down) that the Obama election would guarantee Black men access to a bevy of white women.

Dammit I KNEW I shoulda copied his entire blog and posted it before it came down. He said a lot more than that, racist fucker. In fact his blog starts right after the election and the first post is all about Obama and black guys getting with white "hoes"
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truly sick in the head . I wish someone could have got him help. disbelief
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Reply #27 posted 08/05/09 11:23am

SCNDLS

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newpower99 said:

SCNDLS said:


Dammit I KNEW I shoulda copied his entire blog and posted it before it came down. He said a lot more than that, racist fucker. In fact his blog starts right after the election and the first post is all about Obama and black guys getting with white "hoes"
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truly sick in the head . I wish someone could have got him help. disbelief

Yeah, like himself? He said he's been depressed and lonely for 25 years, had an older brother that bullied him, and disliked both of his parents. He should have got himself some damn counseling.
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Reply #28 posted 08/05/09 12:03pm

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SCNDLS said:

newpower99 said:




truly sick in the head . I wish someone could have got him help. disbelief

Yeah, like himself? He said he's been depressed and lonely for 25 years, had an older brother that bullied him, and disliked both of his parents. He should have got himself some damn counseling.



nah that mofo shoulda inhaled gas fumes and called it a day.
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Reply #29 posted 08/05/09 12:03pm

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Wow...that's just pathetic on his part.

My pray 's go out to the families of those killed, to those that were injured and their families and to those that were there when it happened.
I'm firmly planted in denial
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