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Thread started 08/13/09 7:32am

johnart

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Gay Bashing Victim Blames Himself

Fuckin Religion! mad

Gay Bashing Victim Blames Himself
by Kilian Melloy
EDGE Staff Reporter
Wednesday Aug 12, 2009

The victim of a vicious hate beating that took place in Brooklyn in 2005 has assigned blame in the incident to an unexpected party: himself.

An Aug. 6 article at Gay City News reported that Dwan Prince, who was allegedly beaten by Steven Pomie four years ago, sent a letter to Pomie in which Prince blamed himself for the beating that Pomie, together with two others, reportedly dished out.

The article noted that the letter may play a part in Pomie’s retrial.

Wrote Prince, "First please allow me to deeply apology for my hated comment."

The letter, from July 20, continues, "Please I do hope you know I am truly deeply sorry for what ever was sayed [sic] that night.

"I have made some big mistakes in my life and that was the stupidiest [sic] and biggest one of all."

The Gay City News article detailed how the attack took place, with Pomie and two others allegedly beat Prince after Prince flirted with Pomie.

Pomie then reportedly launched a second attack on Prince, together with one other man.

Pomie returned by himself for a third round even though Prince was unconscious on the ground; bystanders sought to restrain him, at which point Pomie allegedly responded, "Yo, leave it alone son, the nigger’s gay," and "He’s a faggot."

Another witness testified that although Pomie was discouraged from launching a third attack on the unconscious Prince, he nonetheless landed a kick with his Timerland boot-shod foot.

"Then blood started gushing," recounted the witness.

Pomie, who is now 26, was found guilty of first degree assault and a second charge of first-degree assault as a hate crime.

He received a sentence of 25 years; the sentence stipulated that Pomie might only come up for early release after serving a minimum of 21 years.

The conviction was overturned on appeal, and a retrial ordered with reduced charges, the article said. Pomie will be tried for second-degree assault and also for second-degree assault as a hate crime.

How Prince’s letter, in which Prince blames himself for the beating he received, will affect the case is a matter of speculation, as is why Prince assigned blame to himself.

However, Prince’s letter may indicate something about the assault victim’s frame of mind.

As quoted by the Gay City News, Prince wrote Pomie that he had requested a lesser sentence for his assailant.

"I was at blame so it is my to my strongest degree that you get out as soon as possible," the letter reads in part.

"What I asked the state to do is sentence you to five years and five years parole," the letter added.

Prince also expressed the wish that the two men might forge a relationship of some sort, and voiced what might be taken as a claim no longer to be gay.

"Steve you changed me!" Prince exclaims in the letter.

"So hopefully when you get out we can hang out.

"You know me. I know you," the letter continues.

"I [can] help you calm that angry machine down. And allow you to know I am not gay but a lover, and you can find me a female I can love and can love me."

The article said that Prince is HIV+ and is now studying the Bible and thinking of becoming a husband and father.

"I am looking to change my life these days," the article quoted Prince as telling the publication.

"I am looking for a female who I can marry and have my sperm washed and have children," Prince added.

"With me going to church, I feel myself that I must try to live by the Bible, I must try to live by God’s law."

As for Pomie, whose retrial is scheduled for Sept. 1, "I want him to know that, if he read or if he didn’t read [the letter], I want him to know my emotion and feeling behind what happened.

"I want him to know my true emotion and love for him," Prince added.

"There is a God that looks over everybody and he raised me from death and Steven was not able to kill me," Prince continued. "I don’t hate him for trying to kill me."

Prince’s letter and comments may reflect a faith-based view of the incident, with Christian compassion coming to the fore.

But for some, Prince blaming himself for the violent actions of his attack smacks of further victimization.

An Aug. 11 article on the case that appeared at Web site Feast of Fun under the headline, "Gay Bashing Victim: Bashed ’Straight?’" garnered disbelieving comments from readers.

"It’s just too weird," commented one reader.

"I’d like more facts please. And I’d love to know if there is a payday involved."

Wrote another of Prince, "So he was victimized twice then."

Added the commentator, "Sad, sad, sad."

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Reply #1 posted 08/13/09 7:42am

Efan

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Well, you know. Stupidiest is as stupidiest does.
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Reply #2 posted 08/13/09 7:46am

coolcat

Bystanders "sought" to restrain him?

WTF... why the hell didn't they restrain him?
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Reply #3 posted 08/13/09 7:55am

johnart

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The whole thing is a sad mess.
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Reply #4 posted 08/13/09 8:00am

Imago

Great. All we need is more ideas for the Republicans to latch on to.

They're still pissed off about the gay-to-straight therapy being dropped.
[Edited 8/13/09 8:02am]
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Reply #5 posted 08/13/09 8:15am

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johnart said:



How Prince’s letter, in which Prince blames himself for the beating he received, will affect the case is a matter of speculation, as is why Prince assigned blame to himself.


My new signature.
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Reply #6 posted 08/13/09 8:17am

Imago

ScarletScandal said:

johnart said:



How Prince’s letter, in which Prince blames himself for the beating he received, will affect the case is a matter of speculation, as is why Prince assigned blame to himself.


My new signature.

I know this subject isn't funny, but falloff!
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Reply #7 posted 08/13/09 8:30am

johnart

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Imago said:

ScarletScandal said:


My new signature.

I know this subject isn't funny, but falloff!


I was gonna put "Prince Mention" on the Thread Title, but I thought it might be bad...even for me. giggle
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Reply #8 posted 08/13/09 9:07am

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well i'm glad to not be the only one who's mind went there with the Prince thing. giggle


BUT. UGH. sigh
[Edited 8/13/09 9:28am]
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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #9 posted 08/13/09 9:12am

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"I am looking for a female who I can marry and have my sperm washed and have children," Prince added.
http://www.edgeonthenet.c...=&id=94902


what's that mean?

can HIV+ status people have their sperm "washed" to reproduce or does he mean by the blood of Christ? confuse

"I [can] help you calm that angry machine down. And allow you to know I am not gay but a lover, and you can find me a female I can love and can love me."


this is dumb as shit rolleyes
[Edited 8/13/09 9:27am]
12/05/2011guitar
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #10 posted 08/13/09 11:15am

MIGUELGOMEZ

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sad
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #11 posted 08/13/09 11:18am

johnart

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matthewgrant said:


"I am looking for a female who I can marry and have my sperm washed and have children," Prince added.
http://www.edgeonthenet.c...=&id=94902


what's that mean?

can HIV+ status people have their sperm "washed" to reproduce or does he mean by the blood of Christ? confuse

"I [can] help you calm that angry machine down. And allow you to know I am not gay but a lover, and you can find me a female I can love and can love me."


this is dumb as shit rolleyes
[Edited 8/13/09 9:27am]


I should be more familiar with this, but I have to admit I am not. I have read/heard about sperm-washing before, but not savvy of all the details.
http://aids.about.com/cs/...ashing.htm

And yes, that other part IS dumb as shit. hrmph
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Reply #12 posted 08/13/09 11:24am

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Jesus Christ. So what he's saying is that he brought it on himself??? this is a classic case of how religion corrupts completely. So guilted that he will assume responsibility for someone else's actions! disbelief
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #13 posted 08/13/09 11:47am

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johnart said:

matthewgrant said:



this is dumb as shit rolleyes
[Edited 8/13/09 9:27am]


I should be more familiar with this, but I have to admit I am not. I have read/heard about sperm-washing before, but not savvy of all the details.
http://aids.about.com/cs/...ashing.htm

And yes, that other part IS dumb as shit. hrmph

hmmm thanks for the link smile
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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #14 posted 08/13/09 11:53am

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wow
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #15 posted 08/13/09 1:07pm

Alej

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confused

this is just confused idk
The orger formerly known as theodore
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Reply #16 posted 08/17/09 6:14am

myfavorite

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why do people look at gayness as an affliction?
THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]

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Reply #17 posted 08/17/09 6:17am

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i wonder if the attacker has changed his views on homosexuality in prison...yes, i'm talking about exactly what you think i'm talking about.
everyone's a fruit & nut case
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Reply #18 posted 08/17/09 6:48am

MacDaddy

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Jesus Christ. So what he's saying is that he brought it on himself??? this is a classic case of how religion corrupts completely. So guilted that he will assume responsibility for someone else's actions! disbelief


Yes, it's fucking unbelievable. Sick thing is that a lot of religious fanatics will use this to their advantage, or use it as an argument: see, you can be cured, all you need to do is convert to [insert religion]
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Reply #19 posted 08/17/09 8:16am

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MacDaddy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Jesus Christ. So what he's saying is that he brought it on himself??? this is a classic case of how religion corrupts completely. So guilted that he will assume responsibility for someone else's actions! disbelief


Yes, it's fucking unbelievable. Sick thing is that a lot of religious fanatics will use this to their advantage, or use it as an argument: see, you can be cured, all you need to do is convert to [insert religion]


exclaim exclaim exclaim
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Reply #20 posted 08/17/09 8:32pm

ingamilo

MacDaddy said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Jesus Christ. So what he's saying is that he brought it on himself??? this is a classic case of how religion corrupts completely. So guilted that he will assume responsibility for someone else's actions! disbelief


Yes, it's fucking unbelievable. Sick thing is that a lot of religious fanatics will use this to their advantage, or use it as an argument: see, you can be cured, all you need to do is convert to [insert religion]

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1>
who believe a cure is necessary "to this problem" (spiritual or therapeutic) is
so silly as the organizations (religious or secular) that proclaim and create the need for healing to combat this evil : be gay
2>
Annoys me some gay aesthetic, little spiritualize, which may, for example, look at the figure of a man hanging on a cross and say: that muscles ! i want that
acrobat, spectacular ...but, if I only stay with the cross is more cheaper? because nowadays there are many types better than him, more athletic and without stigmata on the hands: the wounds are always horrible ...
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then it seems to me that the blame (if we can tell) is the ignorance and exaggeration of some modes of homosexuals. This can often be used by institutions and the conservative right ...
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I like the description and lucidity. So I will save my virginity for the whole Christ, who besides being man is superjoint d'amori, ...
5>
and said almost everything about this story, missing one thing: I do like Zombbie (sick of people) I find a cave and going to hermit. Men today are not what they were: serious! Even when they are gay
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Reply #21 posted 08/17/09 8:42pm

heybaby

Its sad that a person's self esteem could be that low to blame themselves. I wonder if he was abused. sad
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Reply #22 posted 08/17/09 9:01pm

matthewgrant

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12/05/2011guitar
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #23 posted 09/29/09 8:28pm

Imago

heybaby said:

Its sad that a person's self esteem could be that low to blame themselves. I wonder if he was abused. sad

I agree.
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