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Reply #30 posted 08/04/09 7:59pm

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ehuffnsd said:

since i'm a DARE graduate and i still ended up having to go to ReHab can i sue DARE for faulty advertisement?

No that's different, some schools do guarantee job placement. Not all colleges do that, mostly vocational schools but a school (JVS) here lost its accreditation because of it.
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Reply #31 posted 08/04/09 10:36pm

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wow, but doesn't that depend on whether they can prove they helped her look for work? Maybe her qualifications weren't good enough and that is why she doesn't have one? If they can prove they helped her than she might have no case right?

Not sure...

Based on my own experience, some schools' idea of "help" is sending you off to a career counsellor to take personality tests. I already know I'm an extrovert, thanks. How's that supposed to help me pick a career?

She graduated with a Bachelor's degree, so it's safe to assume she's no slack. Granted, I'm no expert but from what I've heard about this she does have a legitimate complaint.



right, that sux actually, wow.

Right, ah ok, if she does then in brochures etc the school must have made some very big statements and then not fulfilled. Anyway... not sure whether this is a good thing or not.

I suppose if one party didn't fulfill it's obligations then she has a right to do that.
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Reply #32 posted 08/05/09 7:57pm

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missmad said:

meow85 said:


Based on my own experience, some schools' idea of "help" is sending you off to a career counsellor to take personality tests. I already know I'm an extrovert, thanks. How's that supposed to help me pick a career?

She graduated with a Bachelor's degree, so it's safe to assume she's no slack. Granted, I'm no expert but from what I've heard about this she does have a legitimate complaint.



right, that sux actually, wow.

Right, ah ok, if she does then in brochures etc the school must have made some very big statements and then not fulfilled. Anyway... not sure whether this is a good thing or not.

I suppose if one party didn't fulfill it's obligations then she has a right to do that.

I think the whole thing hinges on whether or not the school actually promised aid in job placement or not.
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Reply #33 posted 08/05/09 8:48pm

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SCNDLS said:

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if u spend $70,000 dollar st some place called monroe college, u need tobe unemployed

In the Bronx lol

hmmmf...I was going to go to monroe...since it had online courses...so what EVA! to the first person....yeah... lol the area does look like a dump....
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Reply #34 posted 08/05/09 10:27pm

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Dayclear said:

Dumb Bitch, MCDonald's is hiring. confused


when I graduated with a bachelor's degree, I could not even get a job at McDonald's and this was back in the 80's/90's when Reagan had it all fucked up with the recession.

times be hard like that sometimes. sad especially in NYC.
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Reply #35 posted 08/05/09 10:30pm

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BklynBabe said:

Dayclear said:

Dumb Bitch, MCDonald's is hiring. confused


when I graduated with a bachelor's degree, I could not even get a job at McDonald's and this was back in the 80's/90's when Reagan had it all fucked up with the recession.

times be hard like that sometimes. sad especially in NYC.
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Seriously.
Even now, I've been looking for a job since May, and I officially graduated in June.

Yeah, because every university grad is clicking their heels over the job offer at the local McD's. rolleyes

And that's even IF there are job offers. Anywhere.
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Reply #36 posted 08/05/09 10:34pm

Purplestar88

A teacher once told me "not to go to Monroe College". Now I know why.
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Reply #37 posted 08/05/09 10:37pm

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Dumb Bitch, MCDonald's is hiring. confused

confused neutral
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Reply #38 posted 08/05/09 10:58pm

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sammij said:

BklynBabe said:



when I graduated with a bachelor's degree, I could not even get a job at McDonald's and this was back in the 80's/90's when Reagan had it all fucked up with the recession.

times be hard like that sometimes. sad especially in NYC.
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Seriously.
Even now, I've been looking for a job since May, and I officially graduated in June.

Yeah, because every university grad is clicking their heels over the job offer at the local McD's. rolleyes

And that's even IF there are job offers. Anywhere.
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I'm only one semester away from a degree, and I've been trying to either find a second job or a better job since the middle of March. Over 4 months later and I've only had 4 callbacks, none of which worked out. I can't even get a goddamned fast food job right now. I loathe the idea of working at a McDick's and honestly, I'm more than overqualified given my work experience and education, but right about now I'd kill even just to flip burgers.
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Reply #39 posted 08/05/09 10:59pm

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Don't why she can't find a job. They say they do help people find jobs. I see a lot of people going to the college. The job market is still bad but I also think the degree maybe does not hold any weight to employers. I think employers would look at one of the City University of New York Colleges before Monroe College.
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Reply #40 posted 08/06/09 10:20pm

missmad

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missmad said:




right, that sux actually, wow.

Right, ah ok, if she does then in brochures etc the school must have made some very big statements and then not fulfilled. Anyway... not sure whether this is a good thing or not.

I suppose if one party didn't fulfill it's obligations then she has a right to do that.

I think the whole thing hinges on whether or not the school actually promised aid in job placement or not.



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Reply #41 posted 08/07/09 7:36am

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I changed my mind about calling her action 'extreme.' Education at a college or university costs a substantial amount of money. Once one has a degree, one has to pay for the debt created by loans. At that point, one needs to get a job...any job. Schools should do a better job helping graduates get a job. sad
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Reply #42 posted 08/07/09 7:42am

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meow85 said:


But hang on. Many colleges and trade schools do make promises of employment after the fact. If this school advertised in its promotional literature that they help place graduates with jobs but they haven't done so, then she may have a legitimate case.

A LOT of schools use their job-placement rates as selling points to prospective students.

I wonder how many have a truly successful job-placement rates. neutral
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Reply #43 posted 08/07/09 9:39am

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Actually, I don't think it's that unreasonable at all.

It would be about time to start changing the system in that regard. Pretty much everywhere - we can's just keep on resorting to "tough luck" -type of mentality anymore.
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Reply #44 posted 08/07/09 9:52am

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All of this is why I am going to go for a masters after I graduate in December.
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Reply #45 posted 08/07/09 4:59pm

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novabrkr said:

Actually, I don't think it's that unreasonable at all.

It would be about time to start changing the system in that regard. Pretty much everywhere - we can's just keep on resorting to "tough luck" -type of mentality anymore.

nod

The whole system is falling to shit and people who, by the old way of doing things, should be prosperous are losing their homes and jobs now, and those who began disadvantaged are getting it even worse. We have to start helping each other out and holding businesses and schools and governments to the promises they make. There is no reason on God's green earth why able-bodied, honest people who are willing to work can't find work, or why those who do work are forced to line up at the food bank and shut off the water to save money.

Education is ridiculously expensive and even if a student's situation allows them acces to a loan they may spend years -decades, even -paying it off and now don't even have much of a guarantee of a job that will help them do that. We're at a point where people are graduating with Bachelor's, Master's, and even PhD's and then having to scrounge for minimum wage jobs at Starbucks. Something has gone seriously wrong.
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Reply #46 posted 08/07/09 5:00pm

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Darwintheorgangrinder said:

All of this is why I am going to go for a masters after I graduate in December.

Good luck. Half the people I know with degrees are flipping burgers.
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Reply #47 posted 08/07/09 5:45pm

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this is why you should stay in school for years and years, milking FAFSA payments with various masters, PhD's and doctorates. Work sucks anyway, once you are lucky enough to find it.
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Reply #48 posted 08/07/09 6:54pm

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Fury said:

if u spend $70,000 dollar st some place called monroe college, u need tobe unemployed


Add to that the fact that she couldn't even accrue better than a 2.7 GPA at a lame-ass school like that.
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Reply #49 posted 08/07/09 6:57pm

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meow85 said:

ThreadBare said:


A LOT of schools use their job-placement rates as selling points to prospective students.

nod

But at issue I think is her 2.7 GPA. That's barely a C isn't it?
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