castration .. labotomy .. maybe hold hands with em n sing kumbaya
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[Edited 8/4/09 23:13pm]

This is a gravely complicated matter.

We're not going to be castrating pedophiles anytime soon, so an alternate manner of dealing with them is needed.

Like a crack addict, you can't CURE or FORCE the habit out of someone. IMO, it's an illness and should be treated severely so. Once they're "infected" they need to be "quarantined".

Currently they get put in jail, they "pay their dues", and get sent back out into society. So now what? They need to find a place to live and a job to sustain themselves. Where are they going to live? As an ex-con, their choices are limited, and inevitable low-income neighborhoods get flooded with them.

My town is low-income, and there are dozens of sex offenders living within a mile radius of my home. In fact, we had a pedophile living 2 blocks away recently. Some people decry "Magen's Law" as being vindictive...but without it, my son's best friend would not have known that this creep was living RIGHT NEXT DOOR!!! However, the creep is gone, after being arrested about a year ago after stalking an 11-year old boy in a neighboring town.



So what do we do? IMO we should set up places for them to live AWAY from the general populace. Kinda like a housing complex where their movements could be monitored & tracked (going in and out). Sounds horrible, but good medicine is never pleasant.

If they do it again, then life in prison no parole.

Period.

PurpleJedi said:

A level headed response.

PurpleJedi said:

Well stated

Thank you Punk & Mach.

I can imagine that other people may have considered this as well, but to suggest such a thing would probably result in protests from civil-liberties groups & the like who'd compare this to the Nazi ghettos...so I don't see it happening anytime soon.

PurpleJedi said:

Sure sounds all lollipops but who pays for that? Us? GREAT!
Ugh! I can picture it now...all nice and shit! ok so then you molest a child and we send you away for free paid living in your very own town. how bout that translates into life in prison. NO chance for parole.
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You guys are not being realistic here

Cut their balls..

Blind them..

Kill them...

Blah blah blah,,,,and then what have we achieved(That is if you did all of these things already )? Somebody gotta break the cycle.

And I didn't say cure them FLAT OUT,,,I said TRY & cure them.
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Harlepolis said:

you can't change a person's brain. that is how they are wired. no cure. therefore kill them or cut off their dicks and hands, or isolate them like someone said earlier. these people do more damage than anyone can imagine and often that damage is lifelong and can carry from generation to generation. kill the head and the body will die!

DesireeNevermind said:

Ok...

You do it, then

Harlepolis said:

Boy if only I ruled the world for like 45 minutes at least.

Born that way??? Wtf??

People seriously think this way?

Wow.

Harlepolis said:

Put them on a island and let them fend for themselves Why should we pay to support fuckers lke this

JustErin said:

Yeh What bullshit these are sick fuckers. They deserve each other and should be taken out of society The same goes for rapist.

JustErin said:

you think all pedophiles are born normal then are somehow "turned" into a pedophile? you seriously think this way?

Harlepolis said:

TRY? ok so then if they are not cured that means another child is victimized. Sorry...it's just not worth it. Neuter them....that'll cure em.

Shorty said:

I can't believe that people seriously think people are actually born evil or as some kind of pedophile.

It's so easy to just label these people as fucked up from birth, that this is just the way they are - oh well. This way we do not have to explore why people turn out like this (and yes, they do turn out like this) and maybe, just maybe realize that we as a society had a hand in it somehow.

Let's just say they were born evil and just get rid of them and not try to prevent this from happening in the first place.

JustErin said:

I agree with you Erin.

TheBahtMaster said:

Throw them in the meanest prisons with a tatoo on their forehead stating "I was sent to prison for fucking little children".

Let the other inmates deal with them in their own special way.

Shorty said:

Good luck doing that

JustErin said:

so, to be clear. You do not think ANY pedophiles are born that way?

Shorty said:

That's right. This is what I believe.

JustErin said:

ok. I completely disagree with you.

JustErin said:

That s my question. Are pedophiles a product of a sick society? Society being the relationship between one another. If this is true then are we then responsible for creating the sickness in pedophiles?

Shorty said:

I completely disagree with her too.

I think pedophiles and rapists and people who get off on inflicting pain and trauma to another person during sex or even just in general are perhaps inately that way. Why is there an assumption that somebody must be the product of an unhealthy environment in order to turn out evil? There are plenty of people who grew up in damaged households but turn out to be normal functioning adults. Likewise, there are people who grow up loved in nurtured but turn out to be psychopaths. Maybe it's not about how you are brought up but what kind of mind you have to begin with.

Take Maya Angelou for instance. She was raped as a child and her rapists threatened to kill her family if she ever mentioned it so she literally did not speak for a long time. However, she never abused anyone or took her fear and anger out on another human being. She wrote books and poetry that expressed her feelings and reached out to others who maybe felt the same way.


Take Jeffrey Dahmer. He grew up in a normal home with normal parents yet from a very young age he found pleasure in torturing little animals before taking that desire and turning it onto human beings, first raping them, then killing and ultimately consuming their body parts.


I definitely think that people can either be born with certain proclivities or develop them later and once you have them they are yours forever. If you have a strong yearning for something or someone it's not likely to change. If you have a strong aversion to something or someone, likewise it is not likely to change.

dseann said:

Since we can't kill them(unfortunately), I'd go with your solution.

Wow.

Oh, and Jeffrey Dahmer actually was molested as a child, so he is not a good example for the 'grew up in a great home' argument.

"According to Lionel Dahmer, his son was the typical American boy, “bright loving child…very outgoing” however, by age 7 he was “socially awkward.” This social awkwardness is attributed to the sexual molestation Jeffrey suffered at the young age of six at the hands of a neighbor."

http://socyberty.com/crim...the-truth/

JustErin said:

So why didn't Maya Angelou grow up to be a raping, murdering, cannibal then? She was raped as a child.

Also, how do we know this is even true about Dahmer? This allegation came after his conviction and almost seemed like some poor excuse for how he turned out. When did molestation yield cannibalism?

I still say (back to pedophile topic) that there is something inately wrong with people who rape and murder children and do so repeatedly. Pedophiles have numerous victims and they are cunning in how they target their victims.

I believe this is what they desire and it is what feeds and fullfills them and when you have such appetites, the best desert is for you ass to be killed or removed from any situation where a child can be harmed. We have to weigh it really. The health of our society is dependent on our children's safety not feeling sorry for repeat offender some sex fiend and waisting tax dollars on futile therapy and incarceration. They cannot be cured...EVER! If you meet one that says he's cured, then he's a damn liar and you need to hide your kids.

DesireeNevermind said:

Right! I know personally many folx who were abused, sexually and physically and they are NOT that way as a result. Interesting to note that MOST (not all) pedophiles are men. Many many a woman has been raped, beaten and molested throughout history...so if this is some kinda of result of a sick society why then are women not more prevalent abusers?