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Reply #30 posted 08/03/09 8:56pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

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Now, Miranda, on the other hand... Great character...

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Miranda had the best one liners. falloff

Yeah, she was the most appealing all-around.
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Reply #31 posted 08/03/09 9:44pm

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Who the hell wears a party dress and stilletos to a cabin in the damn woods??? rolleyes Aidan shoulda dropped her ass when she screamed at the squirrel.
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It would've been pretty boring if she showed up all prepped and full of knowledge about roughin' it. neutral


But my heart belonged to Samantha from Episode 1. Still does.
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Reply #32 posted 08/03/09 9:46pm

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Carrie Bradshaw is the dumbest single broad to ever be on TV. I love the show, but the more I watch it, the madder I'm getting. Yet I can't stop myself. pissed


PREEEEEAAAAACH!

I'm glad I ain't the only one who can't stand this dizzy bird bored2

Kim was the one who easiy raised MADHOUSE hell sexy
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Reply #33 posted 08/03/09 9:57pm

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One thing I noticed about most female LEAD characters in TV shows like this...

The naive clueless girl who falls into the same hole eeeeverytime she walks down that road,,,,the audience has an affinity with that character for some reason I can't understand, is it because she's not a "threat" for being too dumb?

Susan from Desparate Housewives comes to mind, they keep throwing that clumsy bitch @ our faces,,,,,she just NEVER learns.
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Reply #34 posted 08/04/09 7:25am

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Interesting observation -- is the implication that audiences of such shows would be intimidated from someone who's on top of it all? hmmm
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Reply #35 posted 08/04/09 7:42am

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I agree with most of everything here.

And I love her anyway. lol

I looooove Carrie Bradshaw as a character. I can’t help it. She’s human. She makes the same mistakes over and over, just like so many of us do. And the show was never about being “real” or “realistic”. A girl who writes a weekly column for a newspaper couldn’t afford even a third of her shoe collection let alone the wardrobe, even if her apartment is rent-controlled. Marrying Big was the fairy-tale ending, not the realistic ending. She finally got the un-get-able man. No one gets the un-get-able man in real life. (Cause we wake up and realize we don’t want him! lol )
Even the relationship with the Russian was a fairytale. And she decided to follow it as far as it could go. How many people have the courage to do that? I love it.
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Reply #36 posted 08/04/09 7:47am

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Carrie Bradshaw is the best character by far.
There's Joy In Expatriation.
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Reply #37 posted 08/04/09 8:13am

Harlepolis

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Interesting observation -- is the implication that audiences of such shows would be intimidated from someone who's on top of it all? hmmm


Yes.

Somehow 'smart, intelligent' women get deemed too,,,,,'alienating'.
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Reply #38 posted 08/04/09 8:31am

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I agree with most of everything here.

And I love her anyway. lol

I looooove Carrie Bradshaw as a character. I can’t help it. She’s human. She makes the same mistakes over and over, just like so many of us do. And the show was never about being “real” or “realistic”. A girl who writes a weekly column for a newspaper couldn’t afford even a third of her shoe collection let alone the wardrobe, even if her apartment is rent-controlled. Marrying Big was the fairy-tale ending, not the realistic ending. She finally got the un-get-able man. No one gets the un-get-able man in real life. (Cause we wake up and realize we don’t want him! lol )
Even the relationship with the Russian was a fairytale. And she decided to follow it as far as it could go. How many people have the courage to do that? I love it.



I'm with Carrie on this!
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Reply #39 posted 08/04/09 8:57am

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Harlepolis said:

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Interesting observation -- is the implication that audiences of such shows would be intimidated from someone who's on top of it all? hmmm


Yes.

Somehow 'smart, intelligent' women get deemed too,,,,,'alienating'.


Yeah, which is unfair to smart, intelligent women: Alienating women are often alienating. Period.
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Reply #40 posted 08/04/09 9:00am

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Yes.

Somehow 'smart, intelligent' women get deemed too,,,,,'alienating'.


Yeah, which is unfair to smart, intelligent women: Alienating women are often alienating. Period.


Seeing the direction that TV(and movies) take nowadays,,,,,I'm afraid to say that you'll never see ANY "Bette Davis" offspring anytime soon.

Maybe in 'independent cinema' since they're the ones who have nothing to lose.
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Reply #41 posted 08/04/09 9:59am

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johnart said:

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Who the hell wears a party dress and stilletos to a cabin in the damn woods??? rolleyes Aidan shoulda dropped her ass when she screamed at the squirrel.
[Edited 8/3/09 16:20pm]


It would've been pretty boring if she showed up all prepped and full of knowledge about roughin' it. neutral


But my heart belonged to Samantha from Episode 1. Still does.

I'm not saying she has to be a lumberjack I'm just looking for some common sense. Stuff like that seems to encourage and celebrate women being overly self-involved, impractical, and an all-around dingbats.
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Reply #42 posted 08/04/09 10:04am

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One thing I noticed about most female LEAD characters in TV shows like this...

The naive clueless girl who falls into the same hole eeeeverytime she walks down that road,,,,the audience has an affinity with that character for some reason I can't understand, is it because she's not a "threat" for being too dumb?

Susan from Desparate Housewives comes to mind, they keep throwing that clumsy bitch @ our faces,,,,,she just NEVER learns.

Exactly, but I can give Susan a bit of a pass cuz her being naive and dingbatish is central to her character. Carrie on the other hand is actually supposed to be an expert on men and relationships and is anything but naive. She's making these mistakes with full knowledge. What bugs me is that she lays down in the middle of the street when she's been runover already. The fact that they broke up and got together in every one of the six seasons PLUS that bullshit in the movie annoys me to death. All of the characters changed and evolved after six seasons EXCEPT her. confused
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Reply #43 posted 08/04/09 10:08am

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Interesting observation -- is the implication that audiences of such shows would be intimidated from someone who's on top of it all? hmmm

I don't even expect her to be on top of everything. Everyone has flaws and it should be reflected on tv as well. My beef is this lead female character makes the same mistake over and over and over and over and over. Why??? What message does that send? Why is she so celebrated for perpetuating the bullshit? I'm very anti-fairy tale and this character IMO just promotes the dumb ass bill of goods women have been sold for centuries.
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Reply #44 posted 08/04/09 11:15am

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Who's ready for the movie seque now? If u were in NYC today, u could have audutioned for a guest spot.
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Reply #45 posted 08/04/09 11:25am

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Who's ready for the movie seque now? If u were in NYC today, u could have audutioned for a guest spot.

I was more excited about the first movie but still didn't see it until it came out on DVD. So chances are I'll be waiting for this one to hit HBO.
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Reply #46 posted 08/04/09 11:40am

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Who dates a man for years and has no idea how old they are??? rolleyes I ask to see a driver's license on the first date.

And I've always wondered, did Miranda's son's name become Brady Hobbes Brady after she married Steve? hmmm
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Reply #47 posted 08/04/09 3:28pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Interesting observation -- is the implication that audiences of such shows would be intimidated from someone who's on top of it all? hmmm

I don't even expect her to be on top of everything. Everyone has flaws and it should be reflected on tv as well. My beef is this lead female character makes the same mistake over and over and over and over and over. Why??? What message does that send? Why is she so celebrated for perpetuating the bullshit? I'm very anti-fairy tale and this character IMO just promotes the dumb ass bill of goods women have been sold for centuries.

Yeah, I was exaggerating with that bit. I never liked her character. Heck, I liked it even less after I realized I was dating a Carrie who kept sabotaging our relationship: She loved the show, she patterned even her shoe-buying decisions after it, and she was extremely neurotic. Book-brilliant but lacking sense.
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Reply #48 posted 08/05/09 11:41am

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SCNDLS said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:


When the Russian slaps her, why in the hell did she not slap him back??? Surely she was not intimated by that wimpy ass?? mad

Aside from the slap, why didn't ya'll like the Russian?


Russian dude = Douchous Baggus

he gets real bad towards the end but I don't want to spoil the douchey fun for you...
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Reply #49 posted 08/05/09 11:46am

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Aside from the slap, why didn't ya'll like the Russian?


Russian dude = Douchous Baggus

he gets real bad towards the end but I don't want to spoil the douchey fun for you...

I saw all the eps when they first aired so I know how it ends. I liked the Russian, definitely better than I did Big. shrug
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Reply #50 posted 08/05/09 1:56pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Russian dude = Douchous Baggus

he gets real bad towards the end but I don't want to spoil the douchey fun for you...

I saw all the eps when they first aired so I know how it ends. I liked the Russian, definitely better than I did Big. shrug


Really?? Whodathunkit... R-dude was always too detached, uber-aloof and although Big had plenty of dumbass moments I always loved how he'd show up somewhere at just the right/wrong time...

I hated it when CB moved to Paris and R-man was just the definition of DICK!

lawd, upon typing all this I realize I was waaaaay to into that show (see, that's what women'll do to a fella...) disbelief
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Reply #51 posted 08/05/09 2:31pm

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yet they always had Carrie looking at Sam sideways for being promiscuous. whofarted

oh was i cheering with excitement when sam gave it to her good when she tried looking down on her about the delivery boy incident evillol

Okay, I'm watching this one now and I must say that Carrie didn't say that much about the incident, but I woulda clowned Samantha forever for that shit. That was just disgusting and dangerous for her to put some stranger's unwashed, out all day delivering packages penis into her mouth in her office. Not classy and extra hoeish IMO. shake
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Reply #52 posted 08/05/09 2:35pm

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I saw all the eps when they first aired so I know how it ends. I liked the Russian, definitely better than I did Big. shrug


Really?? Whodathunkit... R-dude was always too detached, uber-aloof and although Big had plenty of dumbass moments I always loved how he'd show up somewhere at just the right/wrong time...

I hated it when CB moved to Paris and R-man was just the definition of DICK!

lawd, upon typing all this I realize I was waaaaay to into that show (see, that's what women'll do to a fella...) disbelief

He may have been aloof with her friends but shit he didn't know them. He may have warmed up over time. Big was aloof and detached with her friends in the beginning too. Some people take time to open up and I wouldn't hold that against a guy if he was treating me right.

I liked him better, because from the start the Russian included Carrie into his world in a way that Big never did willingly. She had to harrass Big into every lil inch that he gave and he didn't give much. He didn't even tell her he was moving to Paris until she just happened to call him a few days before he left. whofarted
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Reply #53 posted 08/05/09 2:57pm

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This was last nights episode on The CW, one of my all time favorites!!

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Reply #54 posted 08/05/09 3:26pm

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Aww man, I guess you will hate me then. I love Carrie because of her fetish with shoes....I suffer from the same disease... biggrin Yes Miranda was raw and didn't put up with bullshit, but in the movie, I think she was a little..well umm dumb. It was her fault that Steve cheated on her, yet she couldn't forgive him, but all along she was lying to Carrie? disbelief Then it was dumb how BIG listened to Miranda, of all people, and let her cloud doubt in his head. disbelief Yes I know Big did some fucked up things to Carrie while he was dating her, and she married him anyway...but wasn't it cute to see them together and on the same page, FINALLY???
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #55 posted 08/05/09 3:28pm

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Really?? Whodathunkit... R-dude was always too detached, uber-aloof and although Big had plenty of dumbass moments I always loved how he'd show up somewhere at just the right/wrong time...

I hated it when CB moved to Paris and R-man was just the definition of DICK!

lawd, upon typing all this I realize I was waaaaay to into that show (see, that's what women'll do to a fella...) disbelief

He may have been aloof with her friends but shit he didn't know them. He may have warmed up over time. Big was aloof and detached with her friends in the beginning too. Some people take time to open up and I wouldn't hold that against a guy if he was treating me right.

I liked him better, because from the start the Russian included Carrie into his world in a way that Big never did willingly. She had to harrass Big into every lil inch that he gave and he didn't give much. He didn't even tell her he was moving to Paris until she just happened to call him a few days before he left. whofarted

I understand what you are saying, and that has happened to me before, except I kept my good guy and let the guy who was acting how like Big acted, go.
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #56 posted 08/05/09 3:37pm

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Aww man, I guess you will hate me then. I love Carrie because of her fetish with shoes....I suffer from the same disease... biggrin Yes Miranda was raw and didn't put up with bullshit, but in the movie, I think she was a little..well umm dumb. It was her fault that Steve cheated on her, yet she couldn't forgive him, but all along she was lying to Carrie? disbelief Then it was dumb how BIG listened to Miranda, of all people, and let her cloud doubt in his head. disbelief Yes I know Big did some fucked up things to Carrie while he was dating her, and she married him anyway...but wasn't it cute to see them together and on the same page, FINALLY???

Awwwww hell to that naw!!! I was enraged by that shit. pissed lol

And don't get me wrong, I like Carrie for anything non-relationship related. For anything dude related she's the dumbest broad on Earf! shake

How was it Miranda's fault that Steve cheated??? whofarted I think her first mistake was marrying Steve they were not compatible from jump and that never really changed. I liked Steve tho but it doesn't mean they were a good fit. shrug
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Reply #57 posted 08/05/09 7:21pm

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I've just decided that after Miranda, Enid, Carrie's Vogue editor, is my favorite character. I love how uncomfortable she made Carrie and she had some good lines too. lol

Enid: "The key to having it all: Stop expecting it to look like what you thought it was going to look like. That's true of the fall lines, and that's true in relationships." thumbs up!
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Reply #58 posted 08/05/09 7:50pm

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I've just decided that after Miranda, Enid, Carrie's Vogue editor, is my favorite character. I love how uncomfortable she made Carrie and she had some good lines too. lol

Enid: "The key to having it all: Stop expecting it to look like what you thought it was going to look like. That's true of the fall lines, and that's true in relationships." thumbs up!


Enid's the bomb. She has one of my favorite quotes in the series: "East Side, West Side--who the hell knows down here?"

And she has the best line in the movie: "Forty is the last age a woman can be photographed in a wedding dress without the unintended Diane Arbus subtext."
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Reply #59 posted 08/05/09 7:52pm

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I've just decided that after Miranda, Enid, Carrie's Vogue editor, is my favorite character. I love how uncomfortable she made Carrie and she had some good lines too. lol

Enid: "The key to having it all: Stop expecting it to look like what you thought it was going to look like. That's true of the fall lines, and that's true in relationships." thumbs up!


Enid's the bomb. She has one of my favorite quotes in the series: "East Side, West Side--who the hell knows down here?"

And she has the best line in the movie: "Forty is the last age a woman can be photographed in a wedding dress without the unintended Diane Arbus subtext."

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She consistently had great lines like the ep where she asked Carrie to set her up with a guy and Carrie showed up with the Russian and Enid asked her "Carrie, why are you wading in my pool?" That was deep.
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