Mach said:

Graycap23 said:

I think it's like trying to explain what childbirth feels like.

If you haven't been suicidal, then it isn't something that can be satisfactorily conveyed.

thought about it many times...I can see if you have no home and are kicked out on the streets...no point in living or no one close to you like siblings or parents that care. I once was obsessed with death.
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PunkMistress said:

yep

Mach said:

sexual abuse is a serious
problem wit our scociety....my goes out 2-u

Graycap23 said:

No, although I understand that severe depression can make you think in ways that are otherwise unbelievable.

NMuzakNSoul said:

glad you were able to overcome that

NMuzakNSoul said:

You got mad piano skills, glad you are still here to share your gifts dude.

Sometimes.

Absolute, utter physical, mental and spiritual exhaustion and the perception (incorrect though it may be) that there's no hope or respite from it.
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NMuzakNSoul said:

big bright heart for you

DesireeNevermind said:

Indeed. That's a really inspiring story.

JustErin said:

It would have to be if I lost my whole family for me - the loss of one child would make me want to, but how could I leave the other 2 motherless? as if losing a sibling wasn't bad enough for them or leaving my husband to do deal with it all? NO WAY.

veronikka said:

Thanks lady.

3121 said:

Thanks man, I appreciate it. Caught me on YouTube huh.

DesireeNevermind said:

Aww that's really sweet thank you.

Lammastide said:

Thanks a lot. Gotta keep on going. Sometimes I get a comment on YouTube saying, "you ispire me to do better", Couldn't recieve a better gift.

Thanks everyone again.
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I don't think I will ever do, but I cannot completely rule it out. I understand people who do it.

angelcat said:

My son died when he was 18 months old - you would be surprised that there is something strong in all of us that comes out and you survive - my son is asleep and that is how I cope with it. It has made me more empathic to other people - to understand loss and how people want to be treated when they have lost a loved one. In a roundabout manner I have made a better situation out of a tragic loss. You have to be strong when faced with any loss of life.

The only time that I would contemplate suicide is if I was given a terminal illness and it gradually eroded my sense of being and my life was pain and suffering and seeing how it affected others around me. I would talk this over with my family and friends and explain the situation and the reasons - even if they did not like it I would hope that they understood it - I would then take myself off to Switzerland and die peacefully - under my own control - with dignity and that is an important word here - dignity - .

blueblossom said:

oh no I am so sorry!

ZombieKitten said:

Thank you for the hugs - (love hugs meself!!)

Over the years I have remembered my son with a smile and laughter - his blue laughing eyes and his temper!! These things are remembered with a lighter heart now - I used to think that I would never survive a loss of a child but I have. Now I have adopted two children (they were 10 months old and 20 months old) at the same time - they are now 7 and 6 - I have 3 grandchildren also - these things I now cherish and count my blessings -

blueblossom said:

I think you are right about the strength, its in there somewhere, I can feel it sometimes it comes out and surprises you.

blueblossom said:

Yes, when you are forced to live with no dignity, when all the joy of living is gone, then I agree suicide is (ethically) acceptable.

(As for other situations, I don't dare to say what is acceptable and what's not. Life can be hard enough without extreme situations. But concerning the fact life was given to us and the question whether we have the right to take it, I agree with what we said above.)
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sometimes you feel like you are just done you know? i've almost punched my own clock a few times. What drove me to it? stress, life,people, sometimes it feels like when you give and give and then when you need something the people you gave to have no time for you. So yeah that what drives people to do such things.Now? I have no reason to do it i'm content.

IAintTheOne said:

When you have the feeling that life is not precious anymore and doesn't make any sense anymore.

If I ever get diagnosed with Alzheimer's or some disease that causes dementia I don't think anyone would be able to stop me from killing myself. I think that's a reasonable, measured response to that circumstance. I can see myself allowing a terminal disease to take it's course as long as I would remain rational, but if that's not part of the package then I just don't see any point to clinging to life.

damosuzuki said:

I agree in this case but I'm mainly focused on people who are healthy but may be dealing with some negative situations.

Serious said:

I've taken that ride many times

IAintTheOne said:

I feel like that for quite some time now and I suppose it will be the same for a long time coming.

DesireeNevermind said:

I totally agree with this.
Towards the end of my mother's life she was suffering so much she asked that we make all of her meds available to her (I used to dispense them, as she lacked the fine motor skills at that point). She was tired and ready to go.
I (perhaps selfishly, yes) asked her if she could hang on just one last Christmas,which was just around the corner. Christmas had always been our most special time. I promised her that if she still felt the same after the holiday I would assist her. And I would have followed through. There is nothing worst than seeing the strongest person you know lose all independence, quality of life and suffer horrible pain (which breaks a person down in ways way worse than just physically), and I understood and respected her choice.

She had one last lovely holiday (in better spirits even) and passed New Year's Eve 1999.

If I ever am in a condition where pain is unbearable and prolonged (months/years) and I will not recover, I might wish for the same.