I read an ad in the paper on saturday with over 170 dogs listed, the ad claims some of them are "heavily bred"

I dont want to give out to much information here since i have had many phone calls with the police narrowing down to the city they are in to go out and investigate. however, i know that there are many people here who are very into animal rights and whatnot....what is my next move? who can i call to make sure that the man faces the best possible chance of losing it all and the animals can be taken care of the best way possible?

they live in a small town, i just got off the phone with the deputy sheriff who frankly didnt see the impending need to go out there to investigate. for all i know this guy is friends with the man.

who do i call next?
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Is there an ASPCA organization in the area??
You're doing a good thing.

People piss me the fuck off.

Contact your local animal control for info on what can be done or who else to contact

johnart said:

Im on it... thanks for the tip! just got off the phone with peta, they had me leave a message its HOT outside and these dogs need some immediate help!!

If you can, as soon as possible, find out what breeds are at the mill. Most breeds have a rescue organization that specializes in that breed. Typically, these rescue organization's will take some or all of the puppy mill dogs that they focus on and pay for their medical care and help get them adopted. If you find out any of them are Brussels Griffons send me an orgnote cuz I foster for the National Rescue organization and I know they'll move Heaven and Earth to get a Griff out of a mill. This is a good thing for you to do, good luck.

SCNDLS said:

yes, there are 2 Brussel Griffons (one male and one female)

SCNDLS said:

Good point! We got both our current dogs from breed-specific rescues. They're very active.

Try Dean Koontz. Seriously. This is a HUGE issue to him. He's written books about puppy mills.

Bump around www.deankoontz.com. I bet him or someone there will know exactly what to do.

Good luck!

Do all of the above.

These places need to be shut down.
We had to report someone the other day for doing a small scale puppy mill type thing in her very small flat.
You have to think of the puppies and the ppl that are spending money to bring these puppies into their homes and getting attached. Also you have to think about what it is doing to the breed.
Puppy mill ppl make me so angry!

Good luck with getting in touch with the right ppl. The authorities here said they would let us know that outcome of our report.

Complete Kennel Sellout. My husband and I are retiring and have decided to sell our Kennel. We have the following breeds available. All dogs are up to date on Vaccinations and Worming. Please call or email for details and price of each breed. A lot are double registered with AKC and ACA. Some of these dogs are heavy bred. The number of each breed and sex available is listed below. This is a complete sellout. 7 cocker spaniels (3 females, 3 males)4 miniature pinscher (3 females, 1 male)7 Papillons ( 5 females, 2 males) 10 Airedale Terriers ( 8 females, 2 males) 3 Welsh Terriers (2 females, 1 male) Male is champion sired and throughout pedigree.4 Irish Terriers (3 females, 1 Male) all young9 Basset Hounds (6 females, 3 males)7 Boxers (4 females, 3 males) 11 American Bulldogs (8 females, 3 males)2 Golden Retrievers (1 female, 1male)2 Collies (1 female, 1male)6 Blood Hounds(3 females, 3 males)4 Lhasa Apso (2 females, 2 males)2 King Charles Cavaliers (1 female, 1 male)4 West Highland Terriers (3 females, 1 Male)2 Rat Terrier (1 female, 1 Male) .2 Australilan Shepherds (1 female, and 1 male) 4 Shelties (3 females, 1 male)3 Bichon Frise (2 females, 1 male)6 Dachshund (3 females, 3 male)3 Havanese (1 female, 2 males)2 Brussel Griffons (1 female, 1 male)6 Scottish Terriers(4 females, 2 males) 2 maltese (2 females, 2 males)17 Yorkie Terriers (10 females, 7 males) 5 Pomeranians (3 females, 2 males)4 Soft Coated Wheaten Terriers (2 females, 2 males)10 Miniature Schnauzers (7 females, 3 males)4 Wire Hair Fox Terriers (3 females, 1 Males)5 Pekingnese (3 females, 2 males)4 Miniature Poodles (2 females, 2 males)5 Standard Poodles (3 females, 2 males)3 chihuahua (2 females, 1 male)4 Italian Greyhounds (3 females, 1 male)


this is the ad with the phone number taken out, WHY is noone reacting the way i am???? i swear every number i call is asking me to leave a message!!! i just recalled the police dept although its a rural area so i have to go through a sheriffs office instead - it CANT be legal to have that go on anywhere... WHY is this not upsetting more people????


fuck it, im calling the news station


i have been at this since saturday, i just want to know that the babies are ok!!

nakedpianoplayer said:

good for you!!!!! call every single news channel you can find, local news. call the papers and shine the light on that mess. once they are in the open organizations like the humane society can take them on. but, they need people like you to point the way. bless you for taking steps to right this wrong. be careful

XxAxX said:

I did not stop, eventually the deputy went out to the property to check on the dogs, he claims they are well taken care of although they do live in wire meshed floor kennels - which we know can distroy their paws and creates a poor living environment for them.

eventually i decided to call the dept of agriculture in that state - turns out, as i suspected, this man has no license for that and state law requires that you carry a license if you have over 4 females - you can PLAINLY see that there are way over 4 females there!!!

i am waiting for a callback from the deputy who i will be asking to go back and ask him to view a copy of his license.

im still pissed as fuck

XxAxX said:

I agree! Get the media involved - it may even get national attention!
Good for you, nakie!

I had NO idea that it was this hard to protect animals


dear lord, i have made so many calls now i dont know what else to do....


the sheriff claims that they look like they are nice looking dogs and they seem to be taken care of. he claims that if he has broken the law by not having a license that would be a matter for the state to handle not the sheriffs office. he said that the man told him that the neighbors are complaining about the noise from the dogs and so they have decided to get rid of them - therefore, since they are getting rid of them there is no reason to procede with any action. meanwhile, it is near 100 degrees here, these babies are in wire bottomed crates, although he did say that they had shading... im very sad

applekisses said:

the media claims there is no problems with selling dogs like that - i was shocked.

i am waiting for another callback from another reporter....

if i had the money i would go rescue them all right now.

Thank god for people like you!!
I wouldnt put all my faith into the sheriffs office...I think they are a bunch of fuck sticks but thats just me!... Calling peta is a great start but I would also call the aspca..you may have to go through a bigger town nearby to find one tho... They may be a legit and by the rules mill but the aspca will take them in! If you have facebook they are on their also..If yo uneed me to I have them on my friends list, I can contact them for you... Send me an orgnote if you need help k!

nakedpianoplayer said:

I would TOTALLY contact all the news stations.

nakedpianoplayer said:

What state is this in?

SCNDLS said:

Kansas.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Thanks, I'ma call the president of our rescue organization and ask her what to do and how to go about getting the griffs.

NPP, can you orgnote me the phone number to these people so she can contact them? Thanks.

SCNDLS said:

missouri

nakedpianoplayer said:

she moved! Or she's scopin other joints!

nakedpianoplayer said:

I left her a message and I'm sure she'll call me back soon, but to help we'll need more info.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

im still in kansas i just live near the state line and this particular ad is in missouri... thanks for keepin tabs on me though

News stations are looking for stories.

nakedpianoplayer said:

omg i used to live in kansas and we are now in missouri!!

tinaz said:

sweet!! we're neighbors

I'm concerned that these animals will be taken by the county, put into a shelter, then put down when nobody comes to take them.

This is what USUALLY happens.

FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS! well, sort of good news....


i called the dept of agriculture back to make sure they were doing something about the phone call to them this morning. the woman that answered said she wasnt sure how much she could talk to me about so she sent me to her supervisor. he informed me that he was actually at that property on friday (the ad that i read was posted on saturday). the man had entered into an agreement stating that he would get rid of the dogs by october 1 (which seems a bit far off to me), that he would sell down to just 3 females left and maintain that amount from now on, that the agriculture people can stop by to investigate at any point in time from here out and that any dogs that were not sold would be handed over to the authorities on october 1.

this is why it claims this is a complete sell out of the kennel - however the reason is not because she and her husband have decided to do shit, its because they were directed to do so by the state. oh, i forgot to say - things picked up quickly when i checked and found out that they had no license...suddenly everyone wanted to talk to me at once!! as i said, once i reached the right people, i found out that they had already worked on this just a few days prior. thank god there ARE people out there watching out for the lil babies...


i had a great conversation with SCNDLS, she was very helpful on many different things... the pups will never know what we do to protect them and look out for them, but in the end WE know that we didnt just turn our backs on them and thats what matters - perhaps now they can be adopted to good homes and taken care of... or one can hope.


thanks guys again for your sound listening ear - as a team, the org is something else!!!!