DesireeNevermind said:

Even if you happen to look and feel physically much better than in your 20s?
Seriously though, I think this age obsession is ridiculous. I know people in their early 20s who look like shit, and I know people in their 40s who look much better than in their 20s.
And I think there´s nothing wrong with older women having younger boyfriends or lovers, even though I don´t think there´s anything better about them. I used to have an older girlfriend when I was in my mid 20s. ( 14 years older than I was, but it didn´t really bother us , nor did it make our relationship really better or more special just because of the age difference.People and society do treat you differently though, no doubt about that. People thought I was her boytoy or something, even though that was far from reality.)

Really, I think that age is nothing but a number if you know how to look after yourself. Most people simply have a more stressful lifestyle once they hit 30.
As a kid, you used to play in the park,socialize much more, eat better and more regularly,sleep more and better,didn´t worry about the IRS and social security and money and your job, and you burn more calories and dance more. Once the system gets the best of you,that´s when you start going downhill physically.

Alright so another example of inequity between the sexes and total disrespect to the female sex is this label of Cougar. So basicall a cougar is an older woman who dates a younger man. Hold up! Why does she have to be a cougar?

Cougar:
A capable stalk-and-ambush predator, the cougar pursues a wide variety of prey.
It is the second heaviest cat in the American continents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cougar


I'm sorry but that is some royal bullshit right there. Why does a woman have to be labeled a predator where as a man gets no label at all. As a matter of fact, hollywood and perhaps society in general seems to find it acceptable for older men to date younger women, even buying them but an older woman is looked at as some near dead bitch on the prowl even when the guy pursues her. I was watching some showbiz entertainment program and they listed the following celeb women as cougars:

Jennifer Aniston - I'm sorry but 10 years between a couple who are both in the 30-40 age range does not qualify IMO.

Mira Sorvino - Okay but her guy chased her and then they married, plus they have 3 kids. Aren't cougars supposed to be menopausal and in the chasers seat?

Halle Berry - In what bizzaro universe is Halle a cougar?

Madonna- Well I dunno. Her hubby was in his thirties and already a member of oldsville just like her so in that regard she was not a cougar. However, when you look like her and have been married twice, anything is pretty much fair game. Maybe half cougar.


Sandra Bullock- see comment for Halle Berry


Ellen Barkin- She dated Johnny Depp for a hot minute in the 90s but has since dated men older than her. What gives?


Cher - Okay the only bonafide cougar on the list and she's fucking awesome. Besides she spent her youth on old ass Sonny Bono so get your freak on Mz Sarkisian!


Demi Moore- I think she started all this cougar bullshit. Given all her cosmetic enhancements, I crown her cougar allstar!



So what do you think? Fair to call them cougars? Or is society just hating on the non-twentysomething females getting their love on?

^ you said a mouthfull Kool. But let's face it we live in a society that favors the young. Age is a number really. It's a chronological number and a biological number. You can certainly be 30 and look 25 or be 25 and look 35 depending on your genes, your health, your stress level, your overall lifestyle but I tell you there are folks on the west coast and the east, i dunno about in between, who think it's all about what the driver's licesnse says. Younger is perceived as better. Unless you're talking wine or vodka.


I've seen catch successfull men just because they were fresh out of their teens while the same guy wouldn't look twice at a 35 year old. I've seen this happen with men too only not so much in the dating circuit but in the job market. Older men have a harder time competing for jobs against younger men.


But specifically, it's kind of insulting to call a woman a cougar for doing what men have been doing since Moses and not put such labels on men.

DesireeNevermind said:

I find women between 25 and 40 much more interesting than most women or girls in their late teens or early 20s,both physically and personalitywise.
Those guys who prefer younger girls over 35 year old women probably don´t know what to do with a 35 year old woman to begin with.
And many employers in the job market are fools. Experience is just as important as fresh ideas and energy.

DesireeNevermind said:

I find women between 25 and 40 much more interesting than most women or girls in their late teens or early 20s,both physically and personalitywise.
Those guys who prefer younger girls over 35 year old women probably don´t know what to do with a 35 year old woman to begin with.
And many employers in the job market are fools. Experience is just as important as fresh ideas and energy.

KoolEaze said:

the nice thing about this world is that we don't all want the same things. Thank god for different tastes

But I don't blame someone for wanting youth & innocence any more than wanting maturity & experience.

Both things have their benefits & their drawbacks, as does just about any quality.

NDRU said:

Leo is working with 2 singers that are 20 years old, every day he is shaking his head and telling me it's like they are from another planet

ZombieKitten said:

but, man! the boobs!

NDRU said:

oh, well these 2 aren't good representatives in that department!

ZombieKitten said:

jeez, then what does he look at while she's blathering on?

JustErin said:

But even so, dudes do the same thing and they don't get called names. At least not generally. And they're not made to feel bad about it either I don't suppose.


Cougar has become such an acceptable term for an older woman with a younger man that they even had a dating show called....wait for it....."THE COUGAR".


c'mmooooonnnnn!

JustErin said:

My def of cougars was that they're not only older, but wealthier and more socially established than their prey/catch. They're boardroom babes or monied highrollers who like their boy toys younger, kinder, gentler but kinkier than their age and financial counterparts. The best prototype for this in pop culture for me would be Mrs. Robinson in "The Graduate" and Samantha Jones from "Sex In the City".

..and before anybody starts blabbing about how those were not realistic characters, I call bullshit on that. I've had older, mentor type girlfriends who were gorgeous, accomplished, monied women who just loved to have young d*** around the house, or rather, their house. They didn't look hard and they certainly didn't dress half their age . The one thing they all have in common though, hands down, is sexual appetite: I had British girlfriend, a music publicist in New York who preyed on her boys while wearing Max Mara suits, her unwavering criteria being that they iron her clothes in their bikini briefs. She didn't meet'em in bars, but she was very clear about the hook up and what her pets' duties would be

KoolEaze said:

Vendetta1 said:

how did i go from gazelle.....TO FRAKIN COUGAR!!!!

ok?.. shlong is shlong is sh-long!!!

myfavorite said:

DesireeNevermind said:

None of the women on your list met their guys in clubs OR exclusively dated youngsters, yet they are all referred to as cougars. Matter of fact most of the time I hear this dumbass term used it's in reference to a woman that's actually in a committed relationship with a younger man not just hooking up. For instance Kim Cattrall is constantly called a cougar although her ex-husband was her age or older and she dated the young guy for 5 years. Yet when Billy Joel Marries a chick 30 years younger no one bats an eye. It's all some bullshit.

CHIC0 said:

Is this my Chico?

Vendetta1 said:

I totally hate that term. It's demeaning to women and ridiculously sexist. But I think it's fueled by idiotic magazine writers and editors who think that they have to write in a "catchy" and "hip, sexy" style. They label any woman dating a younger man with this shorthand and thus perpetuate an obnoxious double standard. It's annoying as hell.

CHIC0 said:

I've missed you so much.

Vendetta1 said:

as i have you!!! we should walk to the 'edge' again.

so..are you a 'cougar'? grrr!

Efan said:

You are awesome.