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PrintableGraycap23 said: SCNDLS said: Thanks so much! Bob Fossie, his wife Gwen Verdon, and his jumpoff Ann Reinking have always been my favorite dancers. 
Although the influence is obvious and Bob was doing the damn thang, I must say that MJ put his own stank on that shit and took it up a few ticks.  Like I said.....85%  Nah, I ain't cosigning that.  [Edited 7/30/09 10:58am] | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: Like I said.....85% Nah, I ain't cosigning that.
[Edited 7/30/09 10:58am] Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: Nah, I ain't cosigning that.
[Edited 7/30/09 10:58am] Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. He took pieces of different dancers and utilized them together "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Graycap23 said: Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. He took pieces of different dancers and utilized them together That's the key and he perfected their moves and added to it. Every form of art is derivative in some way. Shit, as Prince you know that.
 Correction: As a Prince fan. (Can't have folks thinking Graycap is Prince after all) [Edited 7/30/09 11:09am] | |
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bboy87 said: I see I'ma have to kick yo ass. 
Okay, so the MJ/TO connection is that TO was a HUGE MJ fan and actually won a dance contest doing MJ's moves. | |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: I see I'ma have to kick yo ass.
Okay, so the MJ/TO connection is that TO was a HUGE MJ fan and actually won a dance contest doing MJ's moves.  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: He took pieces of different dancers and utilized them together That's the key and he perfected their moves and added to it. Every form of art is derivative in some way. Shit, as Prince you know that.
Correction: As a Prince fan. (Can't have folks thinking Graycap is Prince after all)
[Edited 7/30/09 11:09am] lol.....I'm not mad at Mj, not even a little.  | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: That's the key and he perfected their moves and added to it. Every form of art is derivative in some way. Shit, as Prince you know that.
Correction: As a Prince fan. (Can't have folks thinking Graycap is Prince after all)
[Edited 7/30/09 11:09am] lol.....I'm not mad at Mj, not even a little. There you go Org, finally, a comment from Prince himself.  | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: lol.....I'm not mad at Mj, not even a little. There you go Org, finally, a comment from Prince himself. Not in a million years.....or tears. | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: There you go Org, finally, a comment from Prince himself. Not in a million years.....or tears.  | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: lol.....I'm not mad at Mj, not even a little. There you go Org, finally, a comment from Prince himself. you remember that one orger who thought everybody was Prince? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SCNDLS said: There you go Org, finally, a comment from Prince himself. you remember that one orger who thought everybody was Prince? Shit, which ONE??? | |
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Graycap23 said: SCNDLS said: Nah, I ain't cosigning that.
[Edited 7/30/09 10:58am] Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. wha??? no gene kelley?  | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Graycap23 said: Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. wha??? no gene kelley? Did u watch that Fosse video? | |
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Graycap23 said: DesireeNevermind said: wha??? no gene kelley? Did u watch that Fosse video? nope. I can't see it. won't play | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Graycap23 said: Of Mike's signature moves, the spin (Jackie Wilson backwards), the moonwalk (Jeffery Danials taught him what was known as the backslide) and Mj's own crotch grabbing move, the rest came from Fosse from where I'm sitting. wha??? no gene kelley? I remember seeing something that MJ did that was an homage to Singin' in the Rain. I recently bought some dvds of MJ videos and performances. One of 'em had his '95 MTV Awards performance which I'd never seen.  I don't know WHAT rock my ass was under cuz I can't believe I missed such an amazing performance, he did the fool. And all I could think was, who in this day and age could perform for 30 minutes on any awards show and shut that bitch all the way down???  Yeah, I couldn't come with nobody either.  | |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: wha??? no gene kelley? I remember seeing something that MJ did that was an homage to Singin' in the Rain. I recently bought some dvds of MJ videos and performances. One of 'em had his '95 MTV Awards performance which I'd never seen. I don't know WHAT rock my ass was under cuz I can't believe I missed such an amazing performance, he did the fool. And all I could think was, who in this day and age could perform for 30 minutes on any awards show and shut that bitch all the way down??? Yeah, I couldn't come with nobody either. the end of Black or White was somewhat of a tribute to Gene Beat It and Bad- west side story Smooth Criminal- Fred Astaire in Bandwagon the Dangerous routine- a performance that Judy Garland did He did some studying "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SCNDLS said: I remember seeing something that MJ did that was an homage to Singin' in the Rain. I recently bought some dvds of MJ videos and performances. One of 'em had his '95 MTV Awards performance which I'd never seen. I don't know WHAT rock my ass was under cuz I can't believe I missed such an amazing performance, he did the fool. And all I could think was, who in this day and age could perform for 30 minutes on any awards show and shut that bitch all the way down??? Yeah, I couldn't come with nobody either. the end of Black or White was somewhat of a tribute to Gene Beat It and Bad- west side story Smooth Criminal- Fred Astaire in Bandwagon the Dangerous routine- a performance that Judy Garland did He did some studying he was an excellent student. made it look so easy.  | |
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bboy87 said: SCNDLS said: I remember seeing something that MJ did that was an homage to Singin' in the Rain. I recently bought some dvds of MJ videos and performances. One of 'em had his '95 MTV Awards performance which I'd never seen. I don't know WHAT rock my ass was under cuz I can't believe I missed such an amazing performance, he did the fool. And all I could think was, who in this day and age could perform for 30 minutes on any awards show and shut that bitch all the way down??? Yeah, I couldn't come with nobody either. the end of Black or White was somewhat of a tribute to Gene Beat It and Bad- west side story Smooth Criminal- Fred Astaire in Bandwagon the Dangerous routine- a performance that Judy Garland did He did some studying I love that tho. Muthafuckas today jack shit and make these ignant kids think they're creating something new. 
I also see Singin' in the Rain in The Way You Make Me Feel. [Edited 7/30/09 13:52pm] | |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: the end of Black or White was somewhat of a tribute to Gene Beat It and Bad- west side story Smooth Criminal- Fred Astaire in Bandwagon the Dangerous routine- a performance that Judy Garland did He did some studying I love that tho. Muthafuckas today jack shit and make these ignant kids think they're creating something new. Krumpin' or is it Crumpin'? whatever that dance is where they act all angry and posessed by the devil. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: SCNDLS said: I love that tho. Muthafuckas today jack shit and make these ignant kids think they're creating something new. Krumpin' or is it Crumpin'? whatever that dance is where they act all angry and posessed by the devil.Dressed like killer klowns sometimes  | |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: the end of Black or White was somewhat of a tribute to Gene Beat It and Bad- west side story Smooth Criminal- Fred Astaire in Bandwagon the Dangerous routine- a performance that Judy Garland did He did some studying I love that tho. Muthafuckas today jack shit and make these ignant kids think they're creating something new.
I also see Singin' in the Rain in The Way You Make Me Feel. [Edited 7/30/09 13:52pm] When my mom realized I loved dancing and watching dancers, she educated me on the greats. She showed me The Nicholas Brothers' performance in Stormy Weather when I was 5 or 6 and Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, and Judy Garland movies along the way. She wanted me to know about the different styles I liked so much. I'd watch Michael's videos in a daze studying Beat It, Bad, Thriller...you name it I remember when I was a senior in high school taking dance and my teacher's jaw dropping when we had to do Thriller for Halloween. She was teaching the class and I was like "No, it's like THIS", so she had me assisting her THEN came the moment we had to cast Michael. We're rehearsing it and I said "Okay, I've done it the way you taught them (the background dancers part), I'm gonna do it my way this time" Had them missing steps watching me do the spin and go on my toes "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SCNDLS said: DesireeNevermind said: Krumpin' or is it Crumpin'? whatever that dance is where they act all angry and posessed by the devil.Dressed like killer klowns sometimes Krumping came and went out here. They're still "turfin'" out here LA has a new style called "Jerkin'".....it's alright "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SCNDLS said: I love that tho. Muthafuckas today jack shit and make these ignant kids think they're creating something new.
I also see Singin' in the Rain in The Way You Make Me Feel. [Edited 7/30/09 13:52pm] When my mom realized I loved dancing and watching dancers, she educated me on the greats. She showed me The Nicholas Brothers' performance in Stormy Weather when I was 5 or 6 and Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, and Judy Garland movies along the way. She wanted me to know about the different styles I liked so much. I'd watch Michael's videos in a daze studying Beat It, Bad, Thriller...you name it I remember when I was a senior in high school taking dance and my teacher's jaw dropping when we had to do Thriller for Halloween. She was teaching the class and I was like "No, it's like THIS", so she had me assisting her THEN came the moment we had to cast Michael. We're rehearsing it and I said "Okay, I've done it the way you taught them (the background dancers part), I'm gonna do it my way this time" Had them missing steps watching me do the spin and go on my toes OMG, I DEMAND to see a video of this performance. 
Yeah, I love movie musicals with great choreography. My all-time favorite is On The Town but the BEST dance sequence ever filmed is the scene from 7 Brides for 7 Brothers amazingly shot in a single continuous take.  | |
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SCNDLS said: bboy87 said: When my mom realized I loved dancing and watching dancers, she educated me on the greats. She showed me The Nicholas Brothers' performance in Stormy Weather when I was 5 or 6 and Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, and Judy Garland movies along the way. She wanted me to know about the different styles I liked so much. I'd watch Michael's videos in a daze studying Beat It, Bad, Thriller...you name it I remember when I was a senior in high school taking dance and my teacher's jaw dropping when we had to do Thriller for Halloween. She was teaching the class and I was like "No, it's like THIS", so she had me assisting her THEN came the moment we had to cast Michael. We're rehearsing it and I said "Okay, I've done it the way you taught them (the background dancers part), I'm gonna do it my way this time" Had them missing steps watching me do the spin and go on my toes OMG, I DEMAND to see a video of this performance.
Yeah, I love movie musicals with great choreography. My all-time favorite is On The Town but the BEST dance sequence ever filmed is the scene from [b\7 Brides for 7 Brothers[/b] amazingly shot in a single continuous take. Are we muthafuckin' related?!
My mom had me AND my brothers watching that one! She LOVES that movie "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SCNDLS said: Dressed like killer klowns sometimes Krumping came and went out here. They're still "turfin'" out here LA has a new style called "Jerkin'".....it's alright at all them shitty ass dance styles. folks done ran out of shit to do.
Ima invent Berryin' It's like Krumpin and Jerkin only you add some thumb moves to look like you on yer Blackberry n shit!!! | |
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: Krumping came and went out here. They're still "turfin'" out here LA has a new style called "Jerkin'".....it's alright at all them shitty ass dance styles. folks done ran out of shit to do.
Ima invent Berryin' It's like Krumpin and Jerkin only you add some thumb moves to look like you on yer Blackberry n shit!!! Desiree . . .
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DesireeNevermind said: bboy87 said: Krumping came and went out here. They're still "turfin'" out here LA has a new style called "Jerkin'".....it's alright at all them shitty ass dance styles. folks done ran out of shit to do.
Ima invent Berryin' It's like Krumpin and Jerkin only you add some thumb moves to look like you on yer Blackberry n shit!!! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: DesireeNevermind said: at all them shitty ass dance styles. folks done ran out of shit to do.
Ima invent Berryin' It's like Krumpin and Jerkin only you add some thumb moves to look like you on yer Blackberry n shit!!! | |
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