Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:

No! But it takes a hell of an athlete to pedal up those hills!

Graycap23 said:

Runners, you mean?

I could easily argue that Lance Armstrong is not a great all around athlete. For example, he's not going to quit cycling & hit 200 for a minor league baseball team. For all Jordan's ridicule for playing baseball, he was able to actually hit the ball occasionally. I am certain I could not hit a single ball.

So I can see a distinction between specialized athletes like marathon runners & bikers and more all around athletes like Allen Iverson & Bo Jackson.

But I definitely think a long distance race is an athletic feat.

NDRU said:

I guess.....

MCP said:

MuthaFunka said:

But they're all on bikes, so the playing field is level. It's not as if a guy on a bike is hailed for being faster than a runner.

They're biking for thousands of miles instead of thousands of meters.

jockeyb4u said:

I don't recall me ever saying it didn't.

MuthaFunka said:

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NDRU said:

But this was never about "Are all cyclists playing on an even playing field?" this was about the difference between using a vehicle in athletics as opposed to using athletic shoes. There's a big difference and bigger advantage when using a vehicle as opposed to using just shoes.

RudyIsBackForGood said:

Ok, I got it now.

MuthaFunka said:

you cool...we both appreciate ass....I like you

your not like those other uptight mawfuckas aeround here

MuthaFunka said:

But when the vehicle is powered by the athlete, then it becomes an athletic event! Would you consider rowing an athletic event?

This thread is fucking crazy!

mcmeekle said:

I know, it's so weird.

MuthaFunka said:

a bigger advantage over who, though? Cyclists compete against each other. Runners compete against each other.

My point about shoes is that they most certainly are engineered to aid the athlete. That's why runners don't wear basketball shoes, and swimmers don't wear shoulder pads & helmets.

But even the playing field (ie, put everyone on bikes) and nobody has an advantage. It's all about endurance & speed & mental toughness.

RudyIsBackForGood said:

Aw damn.

jockeyb4u said:

Ho-hum...Once again, show me where I said it WASN'T an athletic event? Yes, rowing is an athletic event.

NDRU said:

And I'm saying that using an actual vehicle is MUCH more advantageous than using JUST SHOES. I'm not comparing cyclists with cyclists or runners with runners, I'm comparing the difference in physical exertion when an athlete uses a vehicle as opposed to an athlete that doesn't. There's a clear advantage as far as moving/propelling when an athlete uses a vehicle.

Interesting comparison

Average calories burned during Tour De France by athlete 123,900

Duration 3 weeks

Average calories burned during marathon 3184

To burn the same calories running in 3 weeks an athlete would need to complete 1.85 marathons per day, non stop for 3 weeks.

Put it this way - if a cyclist and a runner were to compete in a marathon, who would have the clear advantage between the 2? That's my point.

MuthaFunka said:

I would say all top sporting events use 100% physical exertion.

MuthaFunka said:

What if the runner gave the cyclist a puncture?

MuthaFunka said:

But this is not about pitting different types of athletes against each other in certain sports (like your example - a race).

This thread is weird.

MuthaFunka said:

If a cornerback and a point guard were to compete in tackling drills who would have the advantage? Would it make one the lesser athlete?

mcmeekle said:

No, because not all athletes aren't capable of physically exerting at their optimum level, which is one of the reasons some athletes are better than others within their same sport - some athletes can reach optimum output while others can't, which usually results in victory for those that can.

mcmeekle said:

Then IMMEDIATELY all bets are off.

JustErin said:

How is this thread weird?

JustErin said:

I only used that to show the difference between using a vehicle in athletics as opposed to JUST using shoes.

MuthaFunka said:

I understand that bikes make you faster, and go father yes.

But you seem to be saying that cyclists aren't exerting themselves fully because they have some kind of advantage. But against other cyclists they have no advantage. They have to fully exert themselves in order to win.

jockeyb4u said:

That isn't even a sport dude, that is just dudes in spandex if you know what i mean....there is going to be exertion but it isn't fit viewing for primetime TV