Nine doctors that treated MJ are now being investigated, they are now calling Micheal's death a homicide.

http://www.foxnews.com/st...latestnews

Ok this could of went in the sticky. Why don't people listen to the warning? I'm expecting a one thread sticky only soon enough

I didn't want people focusing on the BS that is in the thread about his dick size and other nonsense.
I made a new thread to focus on the investigation...

This is not a tribute thread to MJ but a discussion on what was done to Mike.... who's guilty who is to blame? I think this topic deserves a thread of its own because of all the angles.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Bus...762&page=1

As the horrifying newly released images of Michael Jackson's head engulfed in flames during a 1984 Pepsi commercial shoot get replayed on television and the Internet, a friend who was there that day said he's not convinced the accident kicked off a lifetime of addiction for the pop icon.
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Miko Brando witnessed the pyrotechnics accident firsthand.

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"It's hard to say," Miko Brando, a Jackson friend and son of the late actor Marlon Brando, told "Good Morning America." "Yes, it was an accident. Yes, he took medicine. Yes, the doctors gave him medicine."

But Brando said to conclude that this incident triggered the alleged addiction and the prescription painkillers Jackson was said to be taking at the time of his death is pure speculation.

Jackson died June 25 at the age of 50, apparently of cardiac arrest.

Final toxicology results from the autopsy could be completed by Friday.

Brando appears on the never-been-released footage of the Pepsi accident, obtained by Us Weekly, rushing to Jackson's aid several seconds after the pyrotechnics were fired and engulfed the singer.

"I remember being stage left, watching him rehearse that particular segment," Brando said, saying he saw Jackson's hair burst into flames and thought, "Oh my God, my friend is on fire."

Backup dancer Daryl Maze, who also can be seen in the raw footage coming to Jackson's aid said others saw Jackson's hair catch fire before the singer knew what had happened.

"He didn't know that his hair was on fire," he told "Good Morning America," " but I looked back and I saw it and that's why I ran back to go to him."
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http://www.nationalenquir...rity/66963

It saddens me that any doctor would cave in and do what a man asked for even if those doctors knew those drugs could be potentially deadly. It makes no sense.
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paintedlady said:

Two weeks before his death, he asked his friend Deerpak Chopra and a registered nurse for Demerol and they said no to him. Most of these doctors only see dollar signs and MJ when they see him coming. It is a sad situation because he was surrounded by leeches and people who did not care about his well-being except a handful.

angel345 said:

I agree. Being a well known celebrity is not all its chocked up to be I guess. You would think with all the reports of financial troubles MJ was having, you would think they would tell him some truth and to focus on getting him healthy to make that money on the tours.

He stands to make lots in his death, but now those same Dr.s are outta cushy jobs.

angel345 said:

Not just Mj, most celebs/rich folks who rely on others are in the same situation.

Graycap23 said:

I'm sure it's not just MJ and hopefully they have learned from his life as well as his death.

paintedlady said:

Yeah, another Elvis situation whereas if they open up Neverland to the public, they will rack up some dough. MJ had a small investment in it though he sold it. As for those doctors, I agree that some heads are about to roll

angel345 said:

It seems certain people don't like 2 hear the word NO, so they surround themselves with Yes men.....

Graycap23 said:

Sad but true. People of great wealth and power do not like to to be told no, or that something cannot be done. For a person to say that one time to many usually results in them being dismissed from the circle of influence. It'spretty common actually. Like I said, sad but true.

did they learn from Anna Nicole Smith or Heath Ledger ..no

Will they learn from Michael ...probbaly not

newpower99 said:

All sad and preventable deaths. What's even sadder is that it's doctors giving these drugs to people. You'd be better off going into the alley or behind the dumpster at McDonald's and buying your drugs from a 'street pharmacist' than paying a doctor to diagnose you and write you a script for the drug; and, then taking that script to a pharmacy and having to pay a pharmacist to give you a drug that is really not that much better than the stuff being sold on the street. Only differences between legal drugs and illegal drugs, besides the obvious legality part, is that some illegal drugs are more expensive (time will change that however), finding illegal drugs can be a lot more challenging and risky, and legal drugs usually aren't mixed with any other materials like illegal drugs are, but they can usually be more potent and just as deadly as illegal drugs especially if used improperly. The police really need to be investigating all the pharmacies where his prescriptions were being filled as well because pharmacists have the right to deny refills. They are doctors also and they can overstep a physician if they feel that a drug is being abused.

I work in Veterinay medicine and I have encountered several questionable cases during my years in this profession. One was this couple who kept coming back to refill their dog's Valium pills. The prescription was supposed to last the pet for at least 2 weeks, but the owners were coming in only a few days after filling it so we started denying them the drug because we knew that they were either selling it, taking it themselves, or severely over-dosing their dog. They got mad and never came back.

I worked at a vet clinic where someone broke in and stole a bottle of Euthasol, which is a drug we administer intravenous, into the vein, (IV) or Intracardial, into the heart, (IC) to euthanize pets. It was once used as a pain killer for humans until human doctors realized that if you gave too much of it, the person would never wake up so it's only used in Veterinary Medicine for euthanasias now.

I saw a old dog that was prescribed Methadone for his severe arthritis and I remember this case because this was right at the time when Anna Nicole Smith had died and they found all that Methadone in her hotel room. For the longest time, I had only believed that Methadone was used in weening Heroine addicts in detox facilities, but it's really just a strong pain killer/lethal heroine.

The drug Diprivan, AKA Propofol, that was found in Michael's house is a drug that I use at my job everyday. We use it for the same reason it's used in human medicine...to sedate the patient prior to intubation for surgical procedures. I've seen this drug work and I know what it's capable of doing, so the moment I heard that it was in Michael's home, I wasn't surprised if that was the reason for his untimely passing. I've seen this drug take down 100 pound dogs in less than 3 seconds after being administered IV. Propofol is the only white liquid that is approved to go into the veins...everything else white has to go into the muscle (IM) or, in the case of animal's, subcutaneously (SQ), in that space between the skin and muscle that is only in animals.

We also use Lidocaine, another drug they supposedly found near his body and it's used as a numbing agent. We usually use it when we have to intubate cats for surgery because if a cat gets spooked, it's throat will swell shut and it will suffocate, so we squirt a few drops of Lidocaine into the throat prior to intubation to prevent this from happening.

Drugs are no joke and it's sad that doctors seem to rely soo heavily on them nowadays instead of just referring their patients who seem to be suffering from severe mental disorders to a therapist. Michael, Anna Nicole, and Heath all needed therapy and not a therapist who was going to keep them drugged, but someone who was going to show them how they could live their lives without all the narcotics. Someone who could show them how to be genuinely happy with themselves and there are therapists who are capable of doing this without having to write a script. Sadly, that didn't happen and their lives were taken far too soon.

My sadness does not really go to them, because I believe that there is something beautiful after one's life is over. A place where there is no more pain, suffering and sadness. No, my sadness is for all their children who have to live their lives without them. They are the ones who have been stolen from; they are the innocents who will hurt forever. I cry for them because they don't deserve it. No child should have to miss their parent; no child should have to wonder what they were like. My heart goes out to the innocent ones who only showered these individuals with true and unconditional love; and, unwavering trust. I pray that those who are their caretakers only tell them good things about their parents and constantly shower them with unconditional love and support as they continue on their journeys through life. Their lives will forever be a little less joyful because such a huge part is missing. An element that can never be replaced nor easily be forgotten.
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Wow, they should have thought about that before they let people into his residence to remove any evidence!

Chic35 said:

especially if the rumor is correct that emt felt mj was almost dead when they got to house. moreover, the distraught security guy who phoned the call in said they'd been working on him for 20 min. before the call. i'm sure the police interviewed them - or should have - right away. ditto about the doc, who was living at the house and therefore knew how to drive there, and still insists he didn't call an ambulance sooner b/c he didn't know the address.

$$$

He was killed before he became a liability. He was NEVER going to complete 50 shows in the frail state he was in (maybe i knew. that's why i didn't fight too hard to get tix, apart from that, i'd seen him at his best). Now he is a license to print money forevermore.

Michael certainly didn't kill himself all on his own. i strongly believe that there is more to it than that.

Marrk said:

So you think that since they felt he was no longer any use, they got rid of him?

Marrk said:

As sad as this sounds I believe it's true.

angel345 said:

Ummm we're talking people here. Don't count on it.

angel345 said:

I don't think he was "murdered" in any active sense, but he definitely was manipulated to the point of destruction.

Think about it: if MJ canceled that O2 residency early, or missed random show after random show, his name and credibility as a performer would take a huge hit.

So they basically put him on the most ridiculous fitness and practice regimen you could think of, when he was in no shape to do so. To keep up and to make EVERYONE happy - as MJ usually did - he took drugs to deal and tried to keep up.



Here's a conspiracy theory that I've thought about "What If":

There were rumors that MJ had revised his will in January 2009 to revert all of the Beatles publishing back to Paul McCartney (this was even reported on MSNBC).

Now, one of the biggest dates in Beatles history is about to happen on 9.9.09, and that is the release of every album remastered and Rock Band: Beatles.

So, based on the rumor of that new will, and the upcoming September cashcow, is it unrealistic to think that had something to do with it?

Just hypothetical.

nurseV said:

see, i don't know who to believe. some people that while he was thin, he was stronger than he looked. others saw frailty. the 50 shows were stretched out through next year so it isn't as though he was going to be performing every night. someone posted the tour dates for the victory tour; now *that* was a freakin' insane schedule! i think he would have made it, but he wouldn't have been 'victory' or 'bad' era good, i don't think.

that said, yes, this death is highly suspicious. i don't know why these doctors felt unconsciousness equals sleep, but like mike's security guard who spoke on the subject said, mj was very charismatic and the doctors liked being able to say that they were connected to him. i wonder how they're going to like being connected when the cops point their accusing fingers towards these doctors. whether they're guilty of anything, it's over for them. you really think anyone is going to hire dr. murray, let alone go see him now?

SUPRMAN said:

But there is nothing wrong with hope. You cannot speak for everybody, especially from all walks of life.

kibbles said:

Yes, and they should have just ask for an autograph and call it a day if they wanted to be connected.