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Thread started 07/30/09 11:51am

Graycap23

Suicide question

Can u think of any reasons that would compel u 2 commit suicide?
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Reply #1 posted 07/30/09 11:53am

Mach

Not now ...

though at 18, 2 tries ended me in the hospital & under psych watch for a yr or more

Why ?
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Reply #2 posted 07/30/09 11:54am

Graycap23

Mach said:

Not now ...

though at 18, 2 tries ended me in the hospital & under psych watch for a yr or more

Why ?

I'm trying 2 understand what drives people 2 the brink.
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Reply #3 posted 07/30/09 11:56am

JustErin

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The only thing I could see maybe pushing me close (but not close enough to actually do it) would be the loss of my son.

But what would stop me is the pain I would create in those I leave behind.
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Reply #4 posted 07/30/09 11:56am

Mach

Graycap23 said:

Mach said:

Not now ...

though at 18, 2 tries ended me in the hospital & under psych watch for a yr or more

Why ?

I'm trying 2 understand what drives people 2 the brink.


Well I was raped

and my immuature mind could not deal with the fall out of it all (?)

not sure ...
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/09 11:58am

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Probably the lack of the reasons that compel you not to.

Utter hopelessness, no ability to see the next move, and the selfishness to be blind to the consequences for those around you.
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Reply #6 posted 07/30/09 11:59am

DanceWme

if my mom, brothers and grandmother all died at the same time, i really believe i wouldnt want to live anymore.
BUT, i know that i wouldnt actually kill myself
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Reply #7 posted 07/30/09 12:00pm

NDRU

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When I was younger I was pretty miserable.

My feeling is that people who seemingly have it good are the ones that have suicidal thoughts.

When you have a reason for being unhappy, such as poverty, it makes it easier in some ways. Not easy to get by & pay bills, obviously, but easy on your psyche. You can always think "if only I had some money I would be fine."

But when you have everything you could possibly need & all the possibilities in the world, and yet you still feel miserable, then it makes YOU feel worthless and hopeless. And it's hard to imagine ever being able to change that. That's where thoughts of suicide start to creep in.
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Reply #8 posted 07/30/09 12:00pm

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I think only if I killed a family member, even accidentally. But I might pull through it. Don't know. I know many times I felt like dying but was always too chicken to even start hatching a plot.
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/09 12:02pm

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NDRU said:

When I was younger I was pretty miserable.

My feeling is that people who seemingly have it good are the ones that have suicidal thoughts.

When you have a reason for being unhappy, such as poverty, it makes it easier in some ways. Not easy to get by & pay bills, obviously, but easy on your psyche. You can always think "if only I had some money I would be fine."

But when you have everything you could possibly need & all the possibilities in the world, and yet you still feel miserable, then it makes YOU feel worthless and hopeless. And it's hard to imagine ever being able to change that. That's where thoughts of suicide start to creep in.

I agree with this actually.
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Reply #10 posted 07/30/09 12:08pm

yomaris

I tried many a time and the hospital is not a place for me not a psych hospital
I was miserable
winters do me no good

God saved my life
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Reply #11 posted 07/30/09 12:11pm

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nope...
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Reply #12 posted 07/30/09 12:15pm

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Mars23 said:

Probably the lack of the reasons that compel you not to.

Utter hopelessness, no ability to see the next move, and the selfishness to be blind to the consequences for those around you.

these reasons make me consider it.

Goal setting is a really big part of keeping me out of that mind set so I'd say not having any plans for the future would compel people to complete suicide.
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Reply #13 posted 07/30/09 12:23pm

NMuzakNSoul

When I was 7 only I had some issues, because of my disability, and told my mom I didn't wanna live anymore. had some talks with psychologists And got hit with depression a few years later, then puberty hit. These days and especially in the past two years I've grown a WHOLE lot. Now I feel super confident, I love life too much to ever give up even though I almost passed on at 18 because of surgery beyond my control, God has Blessed me a whole lot more. I have so much more left to do.
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Reply #14 posted 07/30/09 12:24pm

Graycap23

matthewgrant said:

Mars23 said:

Probably the lack of the reasons that compel you not to.

Utter hopelessness, no ability to see the next move, and the selfishness to be blind to the consequences for those around you.

these reasons make me consider it.

In my mind the Grim Reaper always wins in the end.....so why make him happy?
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Reply #15 posted 07/30/09 12:30pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

matthewgrant said:


these reasons make me consider it.

In my mind the Grim Reaper always wins in the end.....so why make him happy?


but if it feels like life is not a good thing, and there's no purpose to it, then pissing off the grim reaper is not high on the priorities
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Reply #16 posted 07/30/09 12:34pm

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


In my mind the Grim Reaper always wins in the end.....so why make him happy?


but if it feels like life is not a good thing, and there's no purpose to it, then pissing off the grim reaper is not high on the priorities

True. I can't imagine what must go thru ones mind at the very end.
Relief I suppose.
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Reply #17 posted 07/30/09 12:39pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

NDRU said:



but if it feels like life is not a good thing, and there's no purpose to it, then pissing off the grim reaper is not high on the priorities

True. I can't imagine what must go thru ones mind at the very end.
Relief I suppose.


In think relief is what we imagine we'd feel (and maybe for someone with unbearable physical pain it would really be relief)

But the saddest thing is that, according to some who have survived a jump off of the Golden Gate Bridge, the first thing they felt when they jumped was regret.

I also know someone who tried to do it with pills, and eventually called for help. I guess having some time to think about it seriously can change your mind.

I think that's why I never got that close to it. I knew I really didn't want to do it. Deep down I knew I could change my life for the better.
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Reply #18 posted 07/30/09 12:45pm

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Yes.
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Reply #19 posted 07/30/09 12:48pm

angel345

I knew of a cop who blew his brains out when I used to work around law enforcement. His wife left him,and he was being harassed by the brass. Also, I believed what contributed to his suicide was that there was word out on suspicion of him taking steroids. Was told he used to beat up the wife. Therefore, controlled substances can be an contributing factor in some suicides.

As for me, I've been through some stuff in my lifetime, but I don't want to see hell when I die. Prayer and learning to cope has saved me.
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Reply #20 posted 07/30/09 12:59pm

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JustErin said:

The only thing I could see maybe pushing me close (but not close enough to actually do it) would be the loss of my son.

But what would stop me is the pain I would create in those I leave behind.


co-sign. my son or daughter.
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Reply #21 posted 07/30/09 1:20pm

NMuzakNSoul

to answer the question more directly no i can't think of anything anymore that would have me ending my life. life is hard but you gotta cope. suicide is never the answer.
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Reply #22 posted 07/30/09 1:22pm

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No, I love my family too much and they love me. It is a selfish way to go.
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Reply #23 posted 07/30/09 1:35pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

No, I love my family too much and they love me. It is a selfish way to go.


you are right....it is the most selfish way to go....I don't think about
killing myself, but i do think of me dead...and who would it effect...
death is a subject I think of alot...

Life is the most precious gift we have...so why end it...it is all we know.
The reason why I would do it....the feel of beeing helpless, or dispere.
Pain so imence that to die would be the only solution....

I am a spiritual person, that alone will stop me from dooing any permanent harm....

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Reply #24 posted 07/30/09 1:37pm

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suicidal? - Nah

homicidal? - yeah
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Reply #25 posted 07/30/09 2:17pm

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I don't think I would have the guts to do it anyway.
My brother once found someone who had hung themself in the woods near where we stay and he had my niece who was 4 at the time with him.He knew the guy too.It bothers me that they can't consider who might find them too.
I stay in a small village of around 5000 people and I can recall about 6 suicides. neutral
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Reply #26 posted 07/30/09 2:19pm

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Ahhhhh...no.
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Reply #27 posted 07/30/09 2:33pm

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but for those who are terminally ill and are going to die anyway, why shouldn't they end their pain sooner rather than let it drag on?

while it's sad what the rest of the family has to deal with (assuming they are not partly to blame for the suicide), I don't view it as a wholly a negative thing. Have to look at from individual to individual. There maybe instances where you just can't blame the person for ending their life. I mean people have no choice in coming into the world but they may have a choice of how and when they exit.
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Reply #28 posted 07/30/09 2:38pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

but for those who are terminally ill and are going to die anyway, why shouldn't they end their pain sooner rather than let it drag on?

while it's sad what the rest of the family has to deal with (assuming they are not partly to blame for the suicide), I don't view it as a wholly a negative thing. Have to look at from individual to individual. There maybe instances where you just can't blame the person for ending their life. I mean people have no choice in coming into the world but they may have a choice of how and when they exit.


yeah we view ending an animal's life as being humane so that it doesn't suffer anymore, why not humans'? The long lives that we live now do come with a price, and legally, without a choice.
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Reply #29 posted 07/30/09 2:54pm

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I would be to chicken to do it even if I was contemplating it.
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