maybe this is the wrong fourm but it won't get seen over in the religion fourm.


Why does my oven have this setting? A setting for the Sabbath. I'm not asking in a "I'm not Jewish so why did they put it on there" type of way. Cuz the don't know who the heck is gonnay buy it. I'm asking in a "what is it for and how does it help" type of manner. The manual didn't really say. It all seemed to vague. It's one of those ovens with a electronic display/buttons and no dials or nuffin...u know what I'm talking about.

try turning it to that setting and turning on your oven. you never know - maybe ozzy osbourne and ronnie james dio will magically appear in your kitchen!

Anxiety said:

Maybe your posts will magically disappear!

c'mon y'all...be serious.



btw...I gotta say "y'all" now. I'm officially southern. GO LSU!!!!!

Anxiety said:

I did...but then it's seems klike the buttons stop working and it just stays on...i think...i unno...that's why I'm asking!!!!!


I did try to operate it under that setting b4 I asked my question...but it didn't seem to do anything.....WHERE R THE JEWS WHEN U NEED 'EM!!!!!

That is a real mystery! I have never heard of such a thing. Maybe it orders pizza (sans pepperoni, of course!) so you don't have to use the car
[Edited 6/30/09 16:02pm]

Imago said:

maybe you can take a short walk off a long pier and suck a bag of ass!

at the same time!

BobGeorge909 said:

So maybe you're allowed to cook on the sabbath but not use electronic buttons, temperature control, etc.

Maybe the "sabbath" button is a manual turn on type of thing?

From good ol' wiki...

Shabbat mode
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Sabbath mode is a feature in many modern home appliances, including ovens and refrigerators which is intended to allow the appliances to be used (subject to various constraints) by Sabbath-observant Jews on the Sabbath and some Jewish holidays.

Jews are forbidden from doing creative work on the Sabbath. Observant Jews interpret this to include doing things such as closing a switch or pressing an electronic button (which "creates" a circuit), preparing food, and making a fire.

While raw food may not be cooked on the Sabbath, food that was already cooked beforehand may be kept warm until mealtime. On some holidays, food may be cooked fresh, but turning the heat on is problematic. In the past, both of these could be accomplished simply by lighting a stove or oven before the day began, and using its heat over the course of the day. In recent decades, however, appliance manufacturers have instituted a safety feature that automatically shuts off the heat after a number of hours. This renders the appliance useless for those who observe these religious laws.

When an oven is in Sabbath mode, the standard six- or twelve-hour automatic shutoff is overridden, and all lights and displays (for example, a light that might go on when the door is opened) are disabled.

In more recently designed ovens, Sabbath mode will often feature the ability to adjust the temperature of the oven without any feedback to the operator of the oven. This is not relevant to the Sabbath, but is useful on some holidays, when adjusting the heat is allowed, but changing a digital readout on the control panel is not, according to the prevailing Orthodox opinion and the minority Conservative view.

With some Sabbath mode ovens that are controlled using a keypad to set the temperature, there is a pseudo-random delay triggered after a button is pressed before the temperature change takes place.

Those who feel that hitting the keypad closes a switch (and that completing a circuit is not allowed) do have other options, such as the "Tweaker" which was featured on the TorahTechnologies.org web site that emulates old manual ovens by adding a knob that confuses the accurate temperature measurement in a beneficial fashion.

In June 2008, a number of prominent Poskim signed a Kol Koreh (public pronouncement) stating that it was unequivocally forbidden to raise or lower the temperature on Yom Tov using the Sabbath Mode feature.[1] The Kol Koreh referred to the long-held lenient opinion of Rabbi Moshe Heinemann[2] as a Daas Yachid (a minority opinion that should not be relied upon - literally: the opinion of an individual).[3] However, it has been pointed out that Rabbi Heinemann's opinion is fully consistent with the rulings of Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach, who was not only one of the greatest Poskim of his generation, but whose understanding of electricity and technology was probably unparalleled among any of his peers.[4][5] Indeed, none of Rabbi Auerbach's sons or sons-in-law, including Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach, Rabbi Ezriel Auerbach,[6] and Rabbi Zalman Nechemia Goldberg, all prominent Poskim in their own right, participated in the Kol Koreh.[7]

A Sabbath mode refrigerator includes, at a minimum, the ability to disable all lights or other electrical activity from occurring when the refrigerator door is opened. Some Sabbath mode refrigerators include a timer for the compressor so that opening the door, which will normally indirectly cause the compressor to turn on as the temperature rises, will have absolutely no effect on any electrical operation of the appliance.

WordNet reports that KitchenAid introduced the feature in 1994.

i've never heard of this kinda oven!

MrsGoodnight said:

thank U SOOOO much!...I suppose I coulda thought of wiki'ing it myself...but alas...I don't hav e a degree, so I didn't think of it....I KNEW I shoulda stayed in college!

Why does my oven have an "On" switch thingy? What am I supposed to do with that? It makes the stuff I have stored inside it all hot and burny and junk.