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Thread started 06/26/09 6:12am

raveon2tnek

02 tickets

fans who purchased these tickets should not be refunded as a mark or last tribute to mj. pls come forth with your views.
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/09 6:29am

LleeLlee

raveon2tnek said:

fans who purchased these tickets should not be refunded as a mark or last tribute to mj. pls come forth with your views.



For what reason? confuse
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/09 6:34am

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of course they should be refunded their money but i'm sure they should be able to retain their tickets.

i still have six prince croke park tickets and got my money back.
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Reply #3 posted 06/26/09 6:53am

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They shouldn't be refunded because they were dumb enough to think he would actually do 50 gigs at all lol
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/09 8:23am

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Instead of refunding the tickets...maybe they should come up with some tribute show. That way the fans get something, and everyone still makes money, to help MJ's estate and those kids.
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Reply #5 posted 06/26/09 8:30am

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Instead of refunding the tickets...maybe they should come up with some tribute show. That way the fans get something, and everyone still makes money, to help MJ's estate and those kids.


The kids will already have trust funds set up and are set for life. Irrespective of what the media states MJ still had money in other investments but a tribute show would be a good idea in due course with the assistance of other artists.
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/09 9:08am

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raveon2tnek said:

fans who purchased these tickets should not be refunded as a mark or last tribute to mj. pls come forth with your views.



They are going to be refunded and why shouldnt they get refunded?
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/09 9:23am

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raveon2tnek said:

fans who purchased these tickets should not be refunded as a mark or last tribute to mj. pls come forth with your views.

It's an interesting sentiment, but I think folk should be entitled to a full refund.

Now it would be kind of cool if Jackson's estate and concert promoters got together and arranged something whereby ticket holders might opt out of a refund and have the portion of their monies that would have been MJ's share donated to some foundation, a school, a medical relief program, one of Michael's favorite charities or something of that ilk in his name. I've read the first 10 concerts alone would have made MJ about £50 million. A social investment (or several) anywhere near that amount would be an extraordinary final tribute to MJ... although I'd bet his creditors would stand to get at least some of that money.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/09 10:06am

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Fortune At Stake On Michael Jackson London Concerts



June 25, 2009 08:25 PM ET

Ray Waddell, Nashville
Michael Jackson's planned 50-show run at the O2 Arena in London would have been the highest-grossing single concert engagement. Now it's a major problem for the promoter AEG Live.

More than $85 million worth of tickets have already been sold for the series of performances, which have the now sadly ironic title "This Is It." As much as $30 million has already been spent on production, according to sources close to the situation. So what's at stake for AEG, the world's second-largest concert promoter, can't be overstated.


Concert business executives have estimated that AEG paid Jackson an advance of as much as $10 million. That, plus the production costs, would mean AEG stands to lose as much as $40 million if nonappearance insurance isn't substantial enough to cover this contingency. For AEG, "it's either horrible or really horrible," a concert business executive says.

The shows, which were to begin July 13, would have been Jackson's first solo shows in 12 years. AEG Live, which was producing and promoting them, footed the bill for what the company said was a $20 million production. Other sources say the costs before opening night were closer to $30 million. The total gross from primary ticket sales would've been about $90 million.

Premium and VIP packages and secondary-market sales would have boosted the gross to more than $100 million. Merchandise sales could have brought in another $15 million.

AEG's yearly financial results may now depend on Jackson's cause of death. One entertainment insurance industry insider says that if Jackson died from a drug overdose or a pre-existing condition, the producer could be on the hook for any loss-which would include any money already sunk into the production, as well as the considerable cost of refunding consumers for the 750,000 tickets already purchased. If Jackson signed a contract saying he would return his advance in the event he didn't perform, the company could end up in court with a long line of other Jackson creditors.

AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips told Billboard May 12 that his company was well-insured. "We have one policy in place and we're negotiating for an even larger binder," said Phillips, who couldn't immediately be reached for comment regarding Jackson's death. "We have insured the production costs. In order to get the first part of the insurance in place, [Jackson] had to have a physical, and he passed it with flying colors." AEG CEO Tim Leiweke made similar comments in March at the Billboard Music & Money Symposium.

But a source familiar with the situation says a traditional nonappearance policy was never written. Billboard couldn't confirm that at press time. Even if AEG had a policy, that doesn't mean Jackson's death, and the losses incurred, would be covered. "If it was a pre-existing condition or drug- or alcohol-related, a normal cancellation policy would not cover that, even if he had passed a medical exam," the source says. AEG could be on the hook "if death was from something that's excluded in the policy."

Whatever happens, the $85 million taken in from ticket sales will need to be refunded to the public. It will be messy, as well as expensive, and it will need to happen quickly by law. Phillips told Billboard in March that more than 90% of the tickets have been purchased by U.K. residents, but "the rest is France, Germany, Poland, everywhere in the world. People bought tickets from Botswana."

Ultimately, AEG may have to file a claim against Jackson's estate. And since Jackson has hundreds of millions of dollars of debt, and a couple of multimillion-dollar lawsuits pending, the worth of that estate is very much in doubt.

http://www.billboard.com/...8141.story
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Reply #9 posted 06/26/09 10:15am

CarrieLee

I wonder if Paul will get the rights to his music back.....
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/09 10:21am

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they should be refunded

I don't see what benefit it would provide for it to not be refunded
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Reply #11 posted 06/26/09 10:25am

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CarrieLee said:

I wonder if Paul will get the rights to his music back.....

I believe Michael only owned a 50-percent share of the ATV catalogue, which included the Beatles songs. Sony owns the other half. Under a debt refinancing arrangement about 2 or 3 years back, I think he agreed to eventually sell an additional 25-percent share of it to Sony. And I've heard rumors -- just rumors -- that he planned to will any remaining stake to Paul.

But who knows how any of this stuff has played/will play out?
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #12 posted 06/26/09 5:48pm

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[We should really work on the multiple MJ/Prince threads. Discuss these types of topics in the sticky created for this. Thanks. lock - luv4u]
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