::: Now's my chance. Now's my chance!!! :::

When I started watching this show I was so drawn to all those little faces, and watching their little personalities develope! How hard is it to fall in love with toddlers and kindergardeners?! But then the nagging and bickering of the parents would eventually make the show uncomfortable to watch. So many instances you would be in a sweet family moment with the kids, where they would do something cute or funny, and then from out of nowhere you get Kate screaming at or berating her husband. They looked like they were in dire need of communication therapy as early as Season 1:

See what I don't understand is if he truely did not care for the way she was speaking to him he should have told her more directly or left. Even in that last scene is describes himself as :the whipping boy" but then laughs like he was not upset by it. I can not imagine how stressful it must have been trying to shop with the kids,and even though I don't agree with her bellowing at him in the store,I truely think that she felt like she did almost have to hold his hand because with that many kids you do have to have a structured schedule,and he seemed to always have to be told directions on what he should be doing.[/quote]

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In this episode he expressed to his wife that he was annoyed and embarrassed by the way she screams at him in public. Additionally, what would be the sense in him leaving them at the store? It doesn't get to the root of the problem, and it would have been pretty shitty to leave her there alone handling the holiday shopping with 8 kids.

As for those who would argue she has tell him what do... please, he is a grown ass man. In my view he doesn't need to told anything. The correct way to communicate with your spouse or life partner when you want something done is to request, be it firmly or softly. There is a way to express urgency to people without resorting to the fundamental disrepsect this woman shows her partner incessantly. Furthermore, the idea that her own husband, who has been built a life and a home with her and has been co-parenting since those children came out of the womb somehow needs to be told what he should be doing is ludicrous to me. Maybe this is a concept that would have been more applicable in the 1950's with the way parenting and gender roles were structured. However, the way life works these days I know nary a husband and father who can't nail down the basic logistics of handling their own toddlers with or without their wife present, in the home or in a public setting. Mind you, we're not talking about meltdowns that small children are prone to have and how to deal with them. We're talking the everyday routines of life where you get the kids up& dressed, get their breakfast on the table, get them through shopping, lunch, play activities, jog with the dog and stroller in the park, get them bathed and in bed kind of logistics. Honestly all the apologists for the wife's behavior in these scenarios truly makes me wonder about the value placed on respect and communication in our human relationships. How one can't see the dysfunction being played out with the communication between this couple is beyond me.
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Well that's quite the burden you put on Jon now isn't it, someone sounds a bit like Kate.

Just when one thinks Americans couldn't become any more pathetic, they give both time and space to such tripe. I hope you all follow this to the grave, it's just so terribly intriguing.
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i think they BOTH put fame whoring before their family, and the only thing they're going to have to show for it in the long run is eight messed-up kids.

All of this is bullshit. Just when did we start caring about this kind of shit anyway. It's just a way of escape for people that don't want to face their own family and problems. Mind your own damn business

Dayclear said:

In all sincerity I thought the way this show began was really cute. I like all those shows about babies and weddings, ect. However somewhere along the line it changed into something else very ugly. While it was cool to watch the experience of having multiples, who knew that there would be all of that extra snarkiness riddling these episodes? As for tabloids, I don't even read those so I'm not even sure of the extent this family has penetrated pop consciousness in the U.S., I can only go by what I see here on this board. However I will speak loudly and clearly in that watching this little experiment via youtube did the complete opposite of providing escapism for me. Quite frankly it opened a really good dialogue between family, friends, and mates past and present about the power of the tongue, and importance of how we communicate with each other in our relationships. This has nothing to do with minding anybody's business, actually; there are bigger themes in action here that are not of Jon and Kate Gosselin themselves. They are valid discussions on toxicity in relationships, shadow beliefs, passive aggressive behaviours, and the like. I figure if anybody's not down with looking at those types of issues in discussions here or otherwise they're pretty much free to move right along pay the rest of us no mind. Just sayin'....

I really don't like Kate and her aerodynamic, country mullet.

She's an emasculating biatch. I would so hate to be on her staff. I can just imagine. She'd be the type that follows you to the bathroom n shit.

They both are whoring out their kids for the $$$$. Watch him get a show, John does NYC.

Dude is 32...means they got married at 22. She's older? Getting married that young is always trouble.

Ottensen said:

See what I don't understand is if he truely did not care for the way she was speaking to him he should have told her more directly or left. Even in that last scene is describes himself as :the whipping boy" but then laughs like he was not upset by it. I can not imagine how stressful it must have been trying to shop with the kids,and even though I don't agree with her bellowing at him in the store,I truely think that she felt like she did almost have to hold his hand because with that many kids you do have to have a structured schedule,and he seemed to always have to be told directions on what he should be doing.

watch the last min of this one.

Nobody seems to bring this up, maybe it's not the PC thing to do, idk. But I remember a while back when Jon & Kate said, Jon didn't want the second pregnancy, he was fine with the family like it was, and Kate insisted, I think right there was the beginning of the end.

morningsong said:

it seems the whole thing has been all about kate and what kate wants to do.

ehuffnsd said:

I guess, but if having all those kids was Kate decision to begin with then it would have been nice to have some intervention a long time ago to help Jon deal psychologically with the add responsibility. His freedom was gone in one fatal swoop, a lot of men don't adjust to that to easily. He probably was having issues after the twins, just didn't want to sound like a coward at the time, so he didn't put his foot down. That's was a truckload to be hit with all at once. The Duggards at least sat down and had a deep discussion about it after SEVERAL years of marriage and came to a mutual decision, prepared themselves as best they could and all.

ehuffnsd said:

Damn what a bitch

How come his kids look more Asian than he does?

watch the last min of this one.

morningsong said:

and the duggers don't have a litter at the same age.

there is at least an year between each and the oldest can take care of the younger ones.

::: Now's my chance. Now's my chance!!! :::

Imago said:

heybaby said:

Apparently for the first 6 minutes he was her bitch. then at the last minute its' evident that they are done. he wants privacy and she wants to be Paris Hilton with a brood. That is so unfortunate.

DesireeNevermind said:

Hopefully he sees that she's actually doing him a favor by filing for divorce. Get outta that shit now.

heybaby said:

Has Dr. Phil chimed in yet?