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Thread started 06/23/09 9:56am

Graycap23

NBA: Draft rumors....and trades upcoming.

The Celtics are trying 2 trade Rondo and Ray Allen?
[Edited 6/23/09 14:09pm]
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Reply #1 posted 06/23/09 2:09pm

Graycap23

Report: Bucks trade Jefferson to Spurs for 3 players

Posted Jun 23 2009 4:42PM

MILWAUKEE (AP) -- A Bucks official with knowledge of the deal said Tuesday that Milwaukee plans to trade scoring forward Richard Jefferson to the San Antonio Spurs for Bruce Bowen, Kurt Thomas and Fabricio Oberto, giving them a veteran cast and financial flexibility.



The person confirmed the pending trade to The Associated Press and requested anonymity because the deal is not official until a call later Tuesday. ESPN.com first reported details of the deal.

The Bucks are sending Jefferson away less than a year after acquiring the scoring forward in a draft day trade last season with New Jersey for Yi Jianlian and Bobby Simmons. Jefferson's contract has two years and $29.2 million remaining on it.

Jefferson was a steady offensive force for Milwaukee last season after spending his first seven years in New Jersey. He averaged 19.6 points and shot a career-high 39.7 percent from 3-point range while starting all 82 games.

Spurs guard Tony Parker said he would welcome a big, athletic player like Jefferson.

"He's a great wing," Parker said. "It's something we don't have on our team."

Parker and Tim Duncan had little offensive help in April when the Spurs lost in the first round of the playoffs for the first time since 2000. Jefferson gives San Antonio a scoring threat it sorely lacked last season, especially when Manu Ginobili was out with injuries.

Jefferson became the Bucks' biggest offensive threat after Michael Redd and Andrew Bogut suffered season-ending injuries, but the Bucks' tight financial situation made a move necessary. Milwaukee does not want to pay the NBA's luxury tax, which last year hit teams dollar-for-dollar once they reach $71.15 million in total payroll.

Redd, Bogut and Jefferson are scheduled to make more than $41 million combined this season.

The trade was a shock to at least one Bucks player: Charlie Villanueva posted "RJ traded to Spurs. Wow" on his Twitter account before the trade was official.

The deal actually might allow the Bucks to keep Ramon Sessions or Villanueva himself, since both are restricted free agents.

Bowen, Thomas and Oberto give the Bucks a veteran group. None is signed beyond the upcoming season.

Bowen, 38, is a 13-year veteran known for his defensive efforts against the Western Conference's top guards. Thomas, 36, has played 14 years in the NBA, primarily at forward and center, and has been a bench player each of the last three seasons, averaging 4.3 points last year.

Oberto, 34, has played four years in San Antonio, averaging 3.6 points per game in his NBA career. Last season he underwent a procedure to correct an irregular heartbeat.
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/09 2:19pm

uPtoWnNY

I read Walsh is thinking of trading the Knicks pick(along with Chandler) to move up to get Ricky Rubio.
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/09 2:23pm

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

I read Walsh is thinking of trading the Knicks pick(along with Chandler) to move up to get Ricky Rubio.

The Spurs just got real good real fast.....
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/09 2:43pm

Abdul

I've been watching the old draft's on NBAtv the last few days, it's funny seeing so many of those players back then.
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/09 3:01pm

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Graycap23 said:

uPtoWnNY said:

I read Walsh is thinking of trading the Knicks pick(along with Chandler) to move up to get Ricky Rubio.

The Spurs just got real good real fast.....


I'd like to see that trade happen. That would give them some athleticism.
I know it was rumored before the trade deadline last season that they
were trying to acquire Vince Carter but it didn't pan out.
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/09 3:05pm

Paris9748430

Man, if my Bulls don't do SOMETHING to get either Amare or Bosh, I'm gonna be pissed!!!

We got the picks, we got the players, let's get the shit done!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #7 posted 06/23/09 3:07pm

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Lots of chatter here about Houston making some kind of move. At first it was about moving up to get the #2 pick and take Thybett (sp?), but there's also talk of making a move for Amare Stoudemire.

Of course, all of it involves trading T-Mac.
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Reply #8 posted 06/24/09 6:07am

Graycap23

Paris9748430 said:

Man, if my Bulls don't do SOMETHING to get either Amare or Bosh, I'm gonna be pissed!!!

We got the picks, we got the players, let's get the shit done!!!

The Bulls are incompetent. They won't be making any moves 2 improve their team. U need a real NBA GM 2 do that. NAP (No Action Paxson) is the worst GM in pro-sports.
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Reply #9 posted 06/24/09 8:42am

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I'd like to see Philly get an enforcer on the boards.
They were a terrible rebounding team last year.
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Reply #10 posted 06/24/09 9:06am

uPtoWnNY

Wizards & T'Wolves made a big trade....I'm trying to find the link.

I also heard Boston was trading Rondo and Ray Allen to Detroit for Rip, Tayshaun & Stuckey, but Ainge denied it.
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Reply #11 posted 06/24/09 9:46am

Paris9748430

Graycap23 said:

Paris9748430 said:

Man, if my Bulls don't do SOMETHING to get either Amare or Bosh, I'm gonna be pissed!!!

We got the picks, we got the players, let's get the shit done!!!

The Bulls are incompetent. They won't be making any moves 2 improve their team. U need a real NBA GM 2 do that. NAP (No Action Paxson) is the worst GM in pro-sports.



I think it's Reinsdorf's cheap ass that's keeping Pax, and now Forman from making any real progress.
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/09 10:01am

Graycap23

Paris9748430 said:

Graycap23 said:


The Bulls are incompetent. They won't be making any moves 2 improve their team. U need a real NBA GM 2 do that. NAP (No Action Paxson) is the worst GM in pro-sports.



I think it's Reinsdorf's cheap ass that's keeping Pax, and now Forman from making any real progress.

U mean like giving the scrub Hinrich $11 million a year? That scrug Deng almost $13 million a season? Giving away Shannon Brown, Jr Smith, Tim Thomas.....only 2 turn around and trade ofr Thomas again a year later? Reindirf stinks but NAP stinks MORE. They are letting their best player, Gordon walk as a free agaent. How dumb is that?
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Reply #13 posted 06/24/09 11:55am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Wizards & T'Wolves made a big trade....I'm trying to find the link.

I also heard Boston was trading Rondo and Ray Allen to Detroit for Rip, Tayshaun & Stuckey, but Ainge denied it.


It's been thrown out there by a rep for Boston but i think Dumars
shot that down with the quickness. A fool on the street wouldn't fall
for this one sided deal.
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Reply #14 posted 06/24/09 12:36pm

Graycap23

Is Hansbrough any good?
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Reply #15 posted 06/24/09 12:53pm

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Paris9748430 said:

Man, if my Bulls don't do SOMETHING to get either Amare or Bosh, I'm gonna be pissed!!!

We got the picks, we got the players, let's get the shit done!!!


Bosh better not be going anywhere. That MF belongs in Toronto wink
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Reply #16 posted 06/24/09 1:09pm

Graycap23

Who in their right mind would trade 4 Jamal Crawford?



Sources: Hawks to deal two to WarriorsComment Email Print Share By Marc Stein


NBA front-office sources say that the Warriors and Hawks will soon complete a deal sending Crawford to Atlanta for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton.

Warriors coach Don Nelson made no secret of the fact that Crawford wasn't in his future plans. By shedding Crawford's longer contract and by virtue of insurance payments that will cover some of the costs of Claxton, Golden State would secure a decent measure of payroll relief with the trade.

Less clear is what impact the move will have on Atlanta's forthcoming negotiations with free agent-to-be Mike Bibby. Although Crawford is not a pure point guard, he's a prolific scorer whose arrival could affect the sort of contract offer Bibby expected to command from the Hawks.
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Reply #17 posted 06/24/09 2:39pm

uPtoWnNY

Graycap23 said:

Who in their right mind would trade 4 Jamal Crawford?



Sources: Hawks to deal two to WarriorsComment Email Print Share By Marc Stein


NBA front-office sources say that the Warriors and Hawks will soon complete a deal sending Crawford to Atlanta for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton.

Warriors coach Don Nelson made no secret of the fact that Crawford wasn't in his future plans. By shedding Crawford's longer contract and by virtue of insurance payments that will cover some of the costs of Claxton, Golden State would secure a decent measure of payroll relief with the trade.

Less clear is what impact the move will have on Atlanta's forthcoming negotiations with free agent-to-be Mike Bibby. Although Crawford is not a pure point guard, he's a prolific scorer whose arrival could affect the sort of contract offer Bibby expected to command from the Hawks.


Joe Johnson can say goodbye to half his shots. biggrin
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Reply #18 posted 06/24/09 2:40pm

uPtoWnNY

Best Drafting Teams

http://www.82games.com/be...gteams.htm

Knicks are in last place, of course.
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Reply #19 posted 06/24/09 6:30pm

MuthaFunka

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uPtoWnNY said:

Graycap23 said:

Who in their right mind would trade 4 Jamal Crawford?



Sources: Hawks to deal two to WarriorsComment Email Print Share By Marc Stein


NBA front-office sources say that the Warriors and Hawks will soon complete a deal sending Crawford to Atlanta for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton.

Warriors coach Don Nelson made no secret of the fact that Crawford wasn't in his future plans. By shedding Crawford's longer contract and by virtue of insurance payments that will cover some of the costs of Claxton, Golden State would secure a decent measure of payroll relief with the trade.

Less clear is what impact the move will have on Atlanta's forthcoming negotiations with free agent-to-be Mike Bibby. Although Crawford is not a pure point guard, he's a prolific scorer whose arrival could affect the sort of contract offer Bibby expected to command from the Hawks.


Joe Johnson can say goodbye to half his shots. biggrin


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Reply #20 posted 06/24/09 6:31pm

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Graycap23 said:

Is Hansbrough any good?

Think Mark Madsen with just a little more skill.
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Reply #21 posted 06/24/09 9:26pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:

Is Hansbrough any good?

Think Mark Madsen with just a little more skill.



He'll be ok, just ok. Might avg.12 pts. and 6 or 7 boards. I question whether he'll be able to defend in the NBA.
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Reply #22 posted 06/24/09 9:46pm

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weused2luvhim said:

MuthaFunka said:


Think Mark Madsen with just a little more skill.



He'll be ok, just ok. Might avg.12 pts. and 6 or 7 boards. I question whether he'll be able to defend in the NBA.

I don't see him doing 12 a game.
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Reply #23 posted 06/24/09 9:47pm

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Shaq is a Cav.
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Reply #24 posted 06/24/09 9:49pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Shaq is a Cav.



Wow the Suns gave him up for nothing. Of course the Cavs didn't get a whole lot with him. His tanks about empty.
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Reply #25 posted 06/24/09 9:50pm

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weused2luvhim said:

MuthaFunka said:

Shaq is a Cav.



Wow the Suns gave him up for nothing. Of course the Cavs didn't get a whole lot with him. His tanks about empty.

Even on an empty tank, he's one of the top 5 Cs still.
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Reply #26 posted 06/25/09 5:43am

Graycap23

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:

Is Hansbrough any good?

Think Mark Madsen with just a little more skill.

Translation: NBA scrub who will play for 10 years and make a crap load of cash 4 riding jody. (jody = pine = bench)
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Reply #27 posted 06/25/09 7:00am

uPtoWnNY

MuthaFunka said:

weused2luvhim said:




Wow the Suns gave him up for nothing. Of course the Cavs didn't get a whole lot with him. His tanks about empty.

Even on an empty tank, he's one of the top 5 Cs still.


But this doesn't make Cleveland better than Orlando. Cavs have no size in their backcourt, and Shaq can't guard Dwight Howard.
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Reply #28 posted 06/25/09 7:03am

Graycap23

uPtoWnNY said:

MuthaFunka said:


Even on an empty tank, he's one of the top 5 Cs still.


But this doesn't make Cleveland better than Orlando. Cavs have no size in their backcourt, and Shaq can't guard Dwight Howard.

But it makes them better than they were 2 days ago.
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Reply #29 posted 06/25/09 7:30am

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MuthaFunka said:

uPtoWnNY said:



Joe Johnson can say goodbye to half his shots. biggrin


If they gel, ATL's gonna be a beast to fuck with in the East.



If Josh smith grows a brain and stops taking jump shots and gives the ball to PG in a fast break then the Hawks can be good. Oh yeah Fire Woodson too.
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