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Reply #30 posted 06/17/09 5:54am

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psychodelicide said:

MuthaFunka said:



Well, I'm not trippin' off him being able to still possibly play ball, I'm trippin' off the weak ass sentence!


I have to agree, the sentence that Stallworth received was pretty weak. nod

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Reply #31 posted 06/17/09 5:56am

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I have to agree, the sentence that Stallworth received was pretty weak. nod

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Yup, money definitely talks, as SCNDLS stated above. nod
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Reply #32 posted 06/17/09 7:44am

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Crazy.

Kill dogs (Mike Vick) = 2 years in jail. Kill a person by drunk driving = 30 days. Gotta love the court system.
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Reply #33 posted 06/17/09 8:11am

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Nah, I think it's for driving anywhere.

Just Florida.
A Florida judge can't issue an order that covers the U.S.
He could be entered into a database that states have access to so they could check for such a ban. But it would be up to the issuing state to honor it.
It may mean he can't live in Florida because he can't drive there.


It's not just Florida. It wouldn't make sense for it be JUST 1 state. They would've specified that it's JUST for Florida if that were the case.
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Reply #34 posted 06/17/09 8:13am

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Crazy.

Kill dogs (Mike Vick) = 2 years in jail. Kill a person by drunk driving = 30 days. Gotta love the court system.


How about Plaxico? He's facing jail time for shooting himself. Go figure that shit out.
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Reply #35 posted 06/17/09 8:44am

CarrieLee

A slap on the wrist for a murderer. Gross.
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Reply #36 posted 06/17/09 11:38am

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Crazy.

Kill dogs (Mike Vick) = 2 years in jail. Kill a person by drunk driving = 30 days. Gotta love the court system.


How about Plaxico? He's facing jail time for shooting himself. Go figure that shit out.


Oh heck yeah. This court system is crazy.
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Reply #37 posted 06/17/09 11:40am

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How about Plaxico? He's facing jail time for shooting himself. Go figure that shit out.


Oh heck yeah. This court system is crazy.


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Reply #38 posted 06/17/09 11:43am

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A slap on the wrist for a murderer. Gross.

A murderer? The guy stepped in front of his car.
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Reply #39 posted 06/17/09 12:23pm

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A couple things I don't understand about this story. So the accident happened at 7:15 a.m.? And Stallworth had been drinking all night at a bar? What time is last call in Florida? For a night of drinking, .126 doesn't seem that high.
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Reply #40 posted 06/17/09 12:35pm

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SUPRMAN said:


Just Florida.
A Florida judge can't issue an order that covers the U.S.
He could be entered into a database that states have access to so they could check for such a ban. But it would be up to the issuing state to honor it.
It may mean he can't live in Florida because he can't drive there.


It's not just Florida. It wouldn't make sense for it be JUST 1 state. They would've specified that it's JUST for Florida if that were the case.

But a judge can't extend his probation nationwide.
He may be forbidden to travel out of state without court permission which would enforce his no driving in Florida but Florida can't bar another state from issuing anyone a license.
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Reply #41 posted 06/17/09 12:36pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

JellyBean said:

Crazy.

Kill dogs (Mike Vick) = 2 years in jail. Kill a person by drunk driving = 30 days. Gotta love the court system.


How about Plaxico? He's facing jail time for shooting himself. Go figure that shit out.

Not for shooting himself.
For carrying an unregistered firearm which is illegal in New York.
It only came to light after he shot himself. If he hadn't shot himself he would've simply gotten away with breaking the law. I'm sure it wasn't his first time.
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Reply #42 posted 06/17/09 12:37pm

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CarrieLee said:

A slap on the wrist for a murderer. Gross.

A murderer? The guy stepped in front of his car.

Stepped in front of his car?
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Reply #43 posted 06/17/09 12:59pm

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A murderer? The guy stepped in front of his car.

Stepped in front of his car?

The report I read said they guy stepped off of the sidewalk and into the street....u know, where CARS belong.
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Reply #44 posted 06/17/09 1:02pm

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Stepped in front of his car?

The report I read said they guy stepped off of the sidewalk and into the street....u know, where CARS belong.

The guy was crossing the street mid block.
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Reply #45 posted 06/17/09 1:21pm

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MuthaFunka said:



It's not just Florida. It wouldn't make sense for it be JUST 1 state. They would've specified that it's JUST for Florida if that were the case.

But a judge can't extend his probation nationwide.
He may be forbidden to travel out of state without court permission which would enforce his no driving in Florida but Florida can't bar another state from issuing anyone a license.


Again, what sense would it make for him to ONLY have his license banned in one state after a crime like this under a plea bargain? Again, if it were ONLY for Florida, it would have been mentioned.
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Reply #46 posted 06/17/09 7:01pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Graycap23 said:


The report I read said they guy stepped off of the sidewalk and into the street....u know, where CARS belong.

The guy was crossing the street mid block.



Whoa...I'm confused. I thought that Stallworth was driving drunk, hit and killed this man and took off or something?
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Reply #47 posted 06/17/09 7:04pm

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CarrieLee said:

SUPRMAN said:


The guy was crossing the street mid block.



Whoa...I'm confused. I thought that Stallworth was driving drunk, hit and killed this man and took off or something?

He WAS driving drunk but he stopped and called the police to the scene and admitted to hitting the guy. The guy was jaywalking but maybe if Daunte wasn't drunk he could've avoided running the man over.
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Reply #48 posted 06/17/09 11:19pm

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But a judge can't extend his probation nationwide.
He may be forbidden to travel out of state without court permission which would enforce his no driving in Florida but Florida can't bar another state from issuing anyone a license.


Again, what sense would it make for him to ONLY have his license banned in one state after a crime like this under a plea bargain? Again, if it were ONLY for Florida, it would have been mentioned.


In five years he can apply for limited driving privileges. Where would he apply?
In the same court where he was sentenced and where his probation is being managed.
Again how can the state of Florida tell Georgia who Georgia can and can't issue a license to? That's Florida's issue not Georgia's. A Florida judge has no jurisdiction over the state of Georgia. Or any other state. How can a Florida judge prevent Georgia from issuing the license? Hold the state in contempt?
Issue a warrant for the state of Georgia if it ever enters his county?
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Reply #49 posted 06/18/09 12:53am

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Again, what sense would it make for him to ONLY have his license banned in one state after a crime like this under a plea bargain? Again, if it were ONLY for Florida, it would have been mentioned.


In five years he can apply for limited driving privileges. Where would he apply?
In the same court where he was sentenced and where his probation is being managed.
Again how can the state of Florida tell Georgia who Georgia can and can't issue a license to? That's Florida's issue not Georgia's. A Florida judge has no jurisdiction over the state of Georgia. Or any other state. How can a Florida judge prevent Georgia from issuing the license? Hold the state in contempt?
Issue a warrant for the state of Georgia if it ever enters his county?


Where was this stated?

And basically what you're saying is, a FELON can vote in another state as long as it wasn't the state he got convicted in and we KNOW that's not the case.
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Reply #50 posted 06/18/09 5:59am

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Where was this stated?

And basically what you're saying is, a FELON can vote in another state as long as it wasn't the state he got convicted in and we KNOW that's not the case.


It was stated in this article:


WR Stallworth pleads guilty, gets 30 days in jail
By CURT ANDERSON, AP Legal Affairs Writer
Jun 16, 9:49 pm EDT

Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte’ Stallworth(notes) began serving a 30-day jail sentence Tuesday for killing a pedestrian while driving drunk in Florida, a punishment made possible by his cooperation with investigators and the fervent wish by the victim’s family to put the matter behind them.

Stallworth, 28, received the sentence after pleading guilty to a DUI manslaughter charge for striking and killing Mario Reyes while driving drunk March 14 in his black 2005 Bentley. The athlete also reached a confidential financial settlement with the family of the 59-year-old construction worker.

Without the plea deal, the DUI manslaughter conviction could have netted Stallworth 15 years in prison. After his release from jail, he must serve two years of house arrest and spend eight years on probation. The house arrest provisions will allow him to resume his football career, his attorney said.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league is reviewing the matter for possible disciplinary action. Stallworth could face suspension without pay for some games this year.

Leonard Little(notes) of the Rams pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter after he hit and killed a woman while driving drunk in 1998 and served an eight-game suspension, though the punishment was doled out when the league was a bit more lenient.

The Browns also said they were evaluating the situation, saying they were very conscious of the seriousness of the charges to which Stallworth pleaded guilty.

Stallworth’s attorney, Christopher Lyons, said the financial settlement was only one factor in the plea agreement. He noted that Stallworth stopped immediately after the accident, called 911 and submitted to roadside alcohol testing despite spending most of the night drinking at a swanky Miami Beach hotel.

“He acted like a man", Lyons said. "He remained at the scene. He cooperated fully."

Stallworth told Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dennis Murphy that he hopes to get involved in drunken driving education programs.

“I accept full responsibility for this horrible tragedy", said Stallworth, who was accompanied at the hearing by his parents, siblings and other supporters. "I will bear this burden for the rest of my life."

Stallworth also must undergo drug and alcohol testing, will have a lifetime driver’s license suspension and must perform 1,000 hours of community service. Lyons said after five years, Stallworth could win approval for limited driving such as for employment.

Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle echoed Lyons in citing Stallworth’s lack of previous criminal record, cooperation and willingness to accept responsibility as factors in the plea deal. Rundle also said the Reyes family, particularly the victim’s 15-year-old daughter, wanted the case resolved to avoid any more pain.

“For all of these reasons, a just resolution of this case has been reached", Rundle said.

None of the Reyes family attended the hearing. Their attorney, Rodolfo Suarez, read a statement saying the family wants to bring closure to this emotional and tragic event. Suarez did not respond to an email seeking comment.

After a night drinking at a bar in Miami Beach’s Fountainebleau hotel, police said Stallworth hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.

Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida’s .08 limit. Stallworth stopped after the crash and immediately told officers he had hit Reyes. Police estimated Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone.

Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns before last season but was injured much of the year. The California native and University of Tennessee college star has also played in the NFL for New England, Philadelphia and New Orleans.

The night before the crash, Stallworth earned a $4.5 million roster bonus from the Browns.
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Reply #51 posted 06/18/09 6:14am

CarrieLee

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Whoa...I'm confused. I thought that Stallworth was driving drunk, hit and killed this man and took off or something?

He WAS driving drunk but he stopped and called the police to the scene and admitted to hitting the guy. The guy was jaywalking but maybe if Daunte wasn't drunk he could've avoided running the man over.



Ahhhh, gotcha.

I still think 30 days is a slap on the wrist. And someone told me that pedestrians always have the right of way...not sure if I believe this but has anyone else heard it? I had an issue with someone walking out in front of me and the guy started screaming...even though I had a green light and they just proceeded to walk in front of my car mad
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Reply #52 posted 06/18/09 7:13am

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He WAS driving drunk but he stopped and called the police to the scene and admitted to hitting the guy. The guy was jaywalking but maybe if Daunte wasn't drunk he could've avoided running the man over.



Ahhhh, gotcha.

I still think 30 days is a slap on the wrist. And someone told me that pedestrians always have the right of way...not sure if I believe this but has anyone else heard it? I had an issue with someone walking out in front of me and the guy started screaming...even though I had a green light and they just proceeded to walk in front of my car mad

I've always heard that pedestrians do have the right of way. It's "ironical" that dude was out celebrating his $4.5 million bonus that night. He shoulda just signed that check right on over to the family.
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Reply #53 posted 06/18/09 7:37am

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Ahhhh, gotcha.

I still think 30 days is a slap on the wrist. And someone told me that pedestrians always have the right of way...not sure if I believe this but has anyone else heard it? I had an issue with someone walking out in front of me and the guy started screaming...even though I had a green light and they just proceeded to walk in front of my car mad

I've always heard that pedestrians do have the right of way. It's "ironical" that dude was out celebrating his $4.5 million bonus that night. He shoulda just signed that check right on over to the family.


He should have just hired someone to drive him around if he knew he was going to be out celebrating. That shit gets me every time. He has the money for it...now someone is dead. Not cool.
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Reply #54 posted 06/18/09 7:54am

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He should have just hired someone to drive him around if he knew he was going to be out celebrating. That shit gets me every time. He has the money for it...now someone is dead. Not cool.



Thank you....same applies to these athletes who feel the need to carry weapons. I understand they're targets, but hire security. Let a professional handle that shit.
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Reply #55 posted 06/18/09 7:59am

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CarrieLee said:

SCNDLS said:


He WAS driving drunk but he stopped and called the police to the scene and admitted to hitting the guy. The guy was jaywalking but maybe if Daunte wasn't drunk he could've avoided running the man over.



Ahhhh, gotcha.

I still think 30 days is a slap on the wrist. And someone told me that pedestrians always have the right of way...not sure if I believe this but has anyone else heard it? I had an issue with someone walking out in front of me and the guy started screaming...even though I had a green light and they just proceeded to walk in front of my car mad


Pedestrians have the right of way in a crosswalk or ANY intersection.
Jaywalking pedestrians do not have the right a way, nor crossing against the light, but you can't hit a pedestrian just because they do not have the right of way at the time they are crossing.
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Reply #56 posted 06/18/09 8:02am

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In five years he can apply for limited driving privileges. Where would he apply?
In the same court where he was sentenced and where his probation is being managed.
Again how can the state of Florida tell Georgia who Georgia can and can't issue a license to? That's Florida's issue not Georgia's. A Florida judge has no jurisdiction over the state of Georgia. Or any other state. How can a Florida judge prevent Georgia from issuing the license? Hold the state in contempt?
Issue a warrant for the state of Georgia if it ever enters his county?


Where was this stated?

And basically what you're saying is, a FELON can vote in another state as long as it wasn't the state he got convicted in and we KNOW that's not the case.

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Stallworth also must undergo drug and alcohol testing, will have a lifetime driver’s license suspension and must perform 1,000 hours of community service. Lyons said after five years, Stallworth could win approval for limited driving such as for employment.

You are talking FEDERAL felony convictions. They can't vote in another state because FEDERAL law prohibits it. But a Florida convict can establish residency elsewhere and depending on the laws of that state, can vote if there only felony conviction is at the state level.
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Reply #57 posted 06/18/09 8:24am

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SCNDLS said:


I've always heard that pedestrians do have the right of way. It's "ironical" that dude was out celebrating his $4.5 million bonus that night. He shoulda just signed that check right on over to the family.


He should have just hired someone to drive him around if he knew he was going to be out celebrating. That shit gets me every time. He has the money for it...now someone is dead. Not cool.

Same thing with all these harlots/starlets in Hollywood that can afford a driver. Dumb bitches all of 'em.
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Reply #58 posted 06/18/09 9:25am

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So how much did he pay to get this "punishment"?
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Reply #59 posted 06/18/09 9:26am

CarrieLee

SUPRMAN said:

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Ahhhh, gotcha.

I still think 30 days is a slap on the wrist. And someone told me that pedestrians always have the right of way...not sure if I believe this but has anyone else heard it? I had an issue with someone walking out in front of me and the guy started screaming...even though I had a green light and they just proceeded to walk in front of my car mad


Pedestrians have the right of way in a crosswalk or ANY intersection.
Jaywalking pedestrians do not have the right a way, nor crossing against the light, but you can't hit a pedestrian just because they do not have the right of way at the time they are crossing.


lol Well I know that! hahahahaha!

My particular situation was I was at a red light, there were two lanes and I had a truck next to me. The light turned green and then all of a sudden two people came out of nowhere crossing the street...they were in front of the truck while it changed and I could not see them. I started to go and then I saw them walking out in front of me and came to a screeching hault. Douchebags proceeded to yell at me and tell me they had the right of way...i was so pissed!
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