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Reply #60 posted 06/14/09 8:30pm

ingamilo

CarrieMpls said:

johnart said:



I agree.
It's like with being green. We really try in a lot of ways. I know we ain't 100% but I figure every bit helps.


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It's like the starfish story.

tries ORIFLAME
it´s IKEA of the cosmetics...is Swedish quality to see? anything of third world or Portuguese scenes; good scene for the beauty... same very good;you can drive holds, you make the best choice
without tests in animals
foundations for children to the mixture
in the good; trusts me wink
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Reply #61 posted 06/14/09 10:46pm

ThreadBare

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I use this: http://www.hrc.org/buyersguide2009/

But truth be told, you can make yourself absolutely crazy.
I'm all for shopping responsibly (according to your beliefs or what's important to you) but if you REALLY want and try hard enough you can find bad stuff about almost ANY company.

They give Shell a 100 favorable rating here.

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Reply #62 posted 06/15/09 12:52am

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ThreadBare said:







"I say welcome to our Shell-shocked land..."



ThreadBare thanks for posting this link and reminding me of this event.

My wife was working for the Body Shop in 1995 when Ken Saro-Wiwa was being detained by The Nigerian military government.

The company campaigned to raise awareness of the injustice of his imprisonement and highlight Shells complicity in the events.

I can still remember my wife bringing home a fax with the news that he had been executed sad

Watching him speak on the video at the 2 minute mark you see part of the man

Oil sad

I hate buying fucking petrol sad

If you havent watched the video take 8 minutes out of your day to honour Ken Saro-Wiwa RIP

http://wiwavshell.org/wiw...ettlement/

looks like Shell got out its large Cheque book sad (just in case anyone thought it was a conspiracy against poor old Shell)
What you don't remember never happened
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Reply #63 posted 06/15/09 12:55am

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K-Mart. Back in 2000, I had just bought a computer game from K-Mart. I took it home to discover one of the CDs were cracked. I took the game to K-Mart so I can exchange it for a working copy. As I enter the store, the first thing I do is go to the customer service desk. The employee took a look at my receipt/game and told me to go back to the software section, pick up another copy of the game, and bring it back to the customer service desk. I do as I am told. The customer service rep gives me back my receipt and tells me to have a good day.

I exited to store and get to my car when I heard "Store Security! Store Security!". I see these two older men in plain clothes run towards me. One of guards pushes me up against the car as the other takes my game and the receipt. They proceeded to handcuff me. One of the security guards stated that "He watched me pick up the game and walk straight out of the store without paying". I told him if he was really following me he would have seen me stop at the Customer Service desk twice to trade my game. I told them to go talk to the Customer Service rep. One of the security guards headed inside, while I stood, handcuffed, outside with the other guard.

The guard asked me, "You know why we're doing this right?". I replied back, "Yeah. Sure." The other dumbass guard comes back out and said that my story checks out. They unhandcuffed me, gave me back my game, and told me to "Have a nice day". I was furious. I haven't stopped in any K-Mart since that happened.

I got a lawyer and tried to sue. First, K-Mart offered me $800.00 to be quiet. My lawyer said to not accept the offer and hold off. K-Mart then proceeded to deny that nothing ever occurred that day. At the start of the case, my lawyer was aggressive, but then he seemed to lose steam so nothing ever happened with the case. However, I do know the two security guards were fired. That is all that really matters to me.

disbelief It's a shame they got away with that behaviour sigh.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #64 posted 06/15/09 8:20am

DevotedPuppy

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Amazon.com: their customer service/finance dept. (ind. & corp.) is thoroughly incompentent. I hate them!

Wal-Mart: no explanation needed.

Duracell batteries.

McDonalds. (Although I do like to eat at Chipotle. boxed)
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Reply #65 posted 06/15/09 8:49am

CarrieMpls

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ThreadBare said:

johnart said:

I use this: http://www.hrc.org/buyersguide2009/

But truth be told, you can make yourself absolutely crazy.
I'm all for shopping responsibly (according to your beliefs or what's important to you) but if you REALLY want and try hard enough you can find bad stuff about almost ANY company.

They give Shell a 100 favorable rating here.

neutral

They give other companies favorable ratings that I wouldn't support in a million years also. They are only looking for one criteria for the recommendation list.
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Reply #66 posted 06/15/09 2:02pm

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I've never set foot in a WalMart and proud of it! I go out of my way to TRY to shop local while thinking global but it's hard as hell now, especially with China just an ocean away...
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Reply #67 posted 06/15/09 2:04pm

ThreadBare

CarrieMpls said:

ThreadBare said:


They give Shell a 100 favorable rating here.

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They give other companies favorable ratings that I wouldn't support in a million years also. They are only looking for one criteria for the recommendation list.

Yeah, I noticed their benefits criteria seemed to be the only basis for the rating.
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Reply #68 posted 06/15/09 2:30pm

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ThreadBare said:

CarrieMpls said:


They give other companies favorable ratings that I wouldn't support in a million years also. They are only looking for one criteria for the recommendation list.

Yeah, I noticed their benefits criteria seemed to be the only basis for the rating.


This is what I'm saying about making oneself nuts.
People have different priorities in what matters to them.

Hopefully we cross over here and there.
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Reply #69 posted 06/15/09 6:01pm

Vendetta1

Nike and even though I slip up sometimes, I go out of my way not to shop at Wal-Mart.
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Reply #70 posted 06/15/09 6:48pm

Anxiety

did i already post on this thread? i can't be bothered to look and see. and i'm bored. so i'll post on it again.

i won't buy nike. i just plain won't do it. part of it is out of conscience, and part of it is the asthetic - i think they're the most shameless abuser of branding i can think of, and every time i see a friend wearing something with a nike swoosh, i always wanna say "i love you to death, but..." and rip that shit right off their body, because they deserve more than being a walking billboard for those fuckers. and yeah, i know...we all end up wearing SOMEone's logo sooner or later...it's just that nike is so nastily ubiquitous, i hate them. barf

and no more rockstar energy drinks, cuz them shits are nothing but a big can of homophobia...which sucks, because i did like their pomegranate and mango energy drinks. but oh well. shrug

generally speaking, i won't shop at walmart. there were a few family emergencies a few years back when walmart was the only thing around and i had to loosen up my ideals a little for the sake of more immediate concerns, but those days are passed. now that i can make more comfortable choices again, i won't go near a walmart.

i won't order from dominos, though i'm not sure if the whole thing about them being owned by evil satan white supremist wackos was an urban legend or what. all's i know for a fact is their pizza sucks. shrug

oh, and i hate pepsi. not for any political reason, just because it tastes like some kind of syrupy chemical bullshit. and i don't know who the pepsi corporation thinks enjoys diet pepsi, because that stuff is just plain vile. dead

oh, and the day i will put a stitch of ed hardy clothing on my body is the day you can call the nice men with the butterfly nets to come take me away, because i think those are the ugliest clothes in the universe. barf

oh my god, razzing on brands i hate is FUN!! woot!
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Reply #71 posted 06/15/09 7:21pm

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Reply #72 posted 06/15/09 7:39pm

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What's the deal with Nike?

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When I began running this year I tried on about 15 pairs of running shoes and it's a pair of Nikes that won out as the most comfortable. They are like walking/running on air. But if it's going to make me cry when I hear why I shouldn't be supporting them, I'll try to find another brand when these are worn out.
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Reply #73 posted 06/15/09 7:43pm

Imago

Anxiety said:

did i already post on this thread? i can't be bothered to look and see. and i'm bored. so i'll post on it again.

i won't buy nike. i just plain won't do it. part of it is out of conscience, and part of it is the asthetic - i think they're the most shameless abuser of branding i can think of, and every time i see a friend wearing something with a nike swoosh, i always wanna say "i love you to death, but..." and rip that shit right off their body, because they deserve more than being a walking billboard for those fuckers. and yeah, i know...we all end up wearing SOMEone's logo sooner or later...it's just that nike is so nastily ubiquitous, i hate them. barf

and no more rockstar energy drinks, cuz them shits are nothing but a big can of homophobia...which sucks, because i did like their pomegranate and mango energy drinks. but oh well. shrug

generally speaking, i won't shop at walmart. there were a few family emergencies a few years back when walmart was the only thing around and i had to loosen up my ideals a little for the sake of more immediate concerns, but those days are passed. now that i can make more comfortable choices again, i won't go near a walmart.

i won't order from dominos, though i'm not sure if the whole thing about them being owned by evil satan white supremist wackos was an urban legend or what. all's i know for a fact is their pizza sucks. shrug

oh, and i hate pepsi. not for any political reason, just because it tastes like some kind of syrupy chemical bullshit. and i don't know who the pepsi corporation thinks enjoys diet pepsi, because that stuff is just plain vile. dead

oh, and the day i will put a stitch of ed hardy clothing on my body is the day you can call the nice men with the butterfly nets to come take me away, because i think those are the ugliest clothes in the universe. barf

oh my god, razzing on brands i hate is FUN!! woot!



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Reply #74 posted 06/15/09 7:53pm

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meow85 said:

And since Nike bought out Converse I won't be buying any more Cons once the pair I have now wear out. Bugger, those are great shoes. pout


omfg
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Reply #75 posted 06/15/09 7:55pm

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DevotedPuppy said:


Duracell batteries.


question why?
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Reply #76 posted 06/15/09 7:55pm

Imago

OK, I'm going to the gym. Try not to type anything stupid while I'm gone.
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Reply #77 posted 06/15/09 8:04pm

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I can't say that I necessarily avoid any one BRAND, since when I shop I'm looking for prices, not brands.

That being said; I do not buy GAP jeans anymore because (even though they cost more than Levi's) they always rip at the knees for me. So I stick to Levi's.

When I buy shoes (dress shoes specifically) I will NOT buy an expensive pair if it says Made In China. Sorry. I mean, when my wife buys shoes for the kids at Payless I pretty much expect them to be made in China or Guatemala or something.

But when I walk into Macy*s and pick a pair of $120.00 Calvin Klein or Steve Madden shoes and they say Made In China inside...I put them back. Which is why it's been YEARS since I've bought a pair of shoes there. For $120 I want them to say Made in Italy or Made in Brazil (Made in USA would be nice, but I haven't seen American-made shoes since I was a teen).
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Reply #78 posted 06/15/09 9:29pm

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PurpleJedi said:

DevotedPuppy said:


Duracell batteries.


question why?



When I was in high school, they had a series of television commercials featuring "humans" that ran on batteries in their backs. If they didn't have Duracell the humans ran out of energy. One commercial was set at an art museum. The family was there, looking at "weird" modern-looking art, they had Duracell batteries in their backs. The museum security guard had the generic or competitor brand, it went dead, he fell asleep (presumably from boredom as well as a dead battery) while standing up, fell over, knocking over a sculpture and generally created a ruckus. At this point the little boy says, "Gee mom, the museum can be fun."

I didn't like how they were perpetuating the idea that museums (especially those that show modern or contemporary art) were boring; unless some sort of slapstick, physical accident happened. shrug

Since then I've probably purchased Duracell batteries less than 5 times. I'll even buy the shitty, generic store brand that I know is going to die in half the time rather than give my money to Duracell.

It probably seems like a silly reason, but as someone who has always loved going to museums, I didn't like that commercial one bit. hmph!



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Reply #79 posted 06/15/09 10:33pm

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walmart = i am strongly against this company and have actually encourage people not to shop there in my immediate circle. thankfully i have no need to go there, since i live in an area where theres pretty much none around. i don't like their business practices and i especially don't like how they barge into communities and kill the color of a local neighborhood along with the local businesses.

also, i try to support the companies in my neighborhood first before i shop in someone elses neighborhood.

i like supporting local businesses.

also, krispy kremes because i think theyre plain weird, gaudy and disgusting.
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Reply #80 posted 06/15/09 10:35pm

drifit

Nikademus said:

Bolthouse Farms juice...they supported Prop. 8


will not drink again. thanks.
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Reply #81 posted 06/16/09 12:59am

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Genesia said:

meow85 said:


The internet really has been a great tool for accessing information not so readily available from traditional media outlets.


Because if it's on the internet, it must be true. rolleyes

No less reliable than newspapers or news channels.

It's all bullshit anyways, the trick is to learn how to weed out the kernel of truth.
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Reply #82 posted 06/16/09 1:02am

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RudyIsBackForGood said:

meow85 said:

I inspired a thread! touched


American Apparel, because founder Dov Charney is a slimeball. He's got several accusations and at this point even legal charges of sexual harassment of female staff. The porn-style ads are skeezy. He once made a public statement that domestic abuse victims deserve what they get. I really wanted to support this company because of their anti-sweatshop stance but I feel like I'd be condoning Charney's grossness by giving money to them.

Nike and The Gap. They both make use of sweatshop labour, and don't even bother to deny it anymore since they have the legal clout and finances to fight anyone who opposes them. And since Nike bought out Converse I won't be buying any more Cons once the pair I have now wear out. Bugger, those are great shoes. pout

Coca-Cola. Violent, strongarm tactics in union busting, particularly in South America, which HAVE resulted in deaths.

American Eagle, because of known racist hiring policies, at least in the U.S.



I can't for ethical reasons support any of these corporations




If anyone has any information on other companies with ethical issues, feel free to post here. I



Wha ? whats so great about Conversre chucks ? they quite simple aint they?

I boycott Amercian Apparel for the reasons you mansioned above and i also boycott nike and Snapples and Walmart and of course everything by Monsanto.
I used to boycott Mc Ds butt these days i drink theyre coffee sometimes .

alsoo starbucks cuz theyre shitt is nasty . sure mc d s is also nastay butt at elast cheap !

Savages son is a racist pig and can kiss my hairy ass !

i also boycott anything by anoyne who pollutes the envirenment.

by the way , i dig your political stance. thumbs up!



Converse are so amazing! Comfy, stylish (in a hipster sort of way) and they last forever. Not to mention, they come in so many colours and styles. My current -and sadly, final -pair is printed all over with the Batman logo. batman

God damn Nike, buying them out.... mad
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Reply #83 posted 06/16/09 1:04am

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ZombieKitten said:

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/hsirhan/2006/12/20/coon.jpg

truly inexcusable disbelief

What the hell? omfg lol

Maybe it's named after someone though....
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Reply #84 posted 06/16/09 1:08am

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johnart said:

I use this: http://www.hrc.org/buyersguide2009/

But truth be told, you can make yourself absolutely crazy.
I'm all for shopping responsibly (according to your beliefs or what's important to you) but if you REALLY want and try hard enough you can find bad stuff about almost ANY company.

How reliable is that, and what's the basis for judgment?. I see quite a few brands on there with "green lights" I personally would never support.
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Reply #85 posted 06/16/09 1:12am

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CarrieMpls said:

What's the deal with Nike?

boxed

When I began running this year I tried on about 15 pairs of running shoes and it's a pair of Nikes that won out as the most comfortable. They are like walking/running on air. But if it's going to make me cry when I hear why I shouldn't be supporting them, I'll try to find another brand when these are worn out.

In terms of apparel companies they're one of the biggest users of sweatshop labour. Some 8 year old or some heavily pregnant lady getting paid 2 bucks a day made those comfy shoes.
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Reply #86 posted 06/16/09 1:12am

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PurpleJedi said:

meow85 said:

And since Nike bought out Converse I won't be buying any more Cons once the pair I have now wear out. Bugger, those are great shoes. pout


omfg
Say it ain't so!!!

Yup. nod sigh
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Reply #87 posted 06/16/09 1:15am

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walmart = i am strongly against this company and have actually encourage people not to shop there in my immediate circle. thankfully i have no need to go there, since i live in an area where theres pretty much none around. i don't like their business practices and i especially don't like how they barge into communities and kill the color of a local neighborhood along with the local businesses.


I've lived in this city now for 10 months, and I still have no idea where the local WalMarts are, nor do I care to figure it out. I know we have them here but if I don't plan on spending my money there I just can't be bothered to look them up. shrug
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Reply #88 posted 06/16/09 4:32am

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meow85 said:

CarrieMpls said:

What's the deal with Nike?

boxed

When I began running this year I tried on about 15 pairs of running shoes and it's a pair of Nikes that won out as the most comfortable. They are like walking/running on air. But if it's going to make me cry when I hear why I shouldn't be supporting them, I'll try to find another brand when these are worn out.

In terms of apparel companies they're one of the biggest users of sweatshop labour. Some 8 year old or some heavily pregnant lady getting paid 2 bucks a day made those comfy shoes.


sad

I will look for something different when these are worn out.
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Reply #89 posted 06/16/09 5:22am

Anxiety

CarrieMpls said:

meow85 said:


In terms of apparel companies they're one of the biggest users of sweatshop labour. Some 8 year old or some heavily pregnant lady getting paid 2 bucks a day made those comfy shoes.


sad

I will look for something different when these are worn out.


i've been using new balance for gym shoes for quite some time. i think they're perfectly comfy. nod
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