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R.I.P. Analog TV (1936-2009)

Today is the day that all over-the-air broadcast signals in the United States are required to switch from analog transmission to digital transmission. On the east coast the switch has already occurred, but as I post this in the state of Illinois, the switch is only minutes away.



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Reply #1 posted 06/12/09 9:52am

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Are you sad about this 728huey? smile
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Reply #2 posted 06/12/09 9:57am

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Reply #4 posted 06/12/09 10:02am

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I have had digital cable forever now, but I just wish the cost was not so high!I have one of those "bundles" where you pay for cable, high speed internet and land phone. I pay 230.00 a month!! mad
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Reply #5 posted 06/12/09 10:03am

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razz Oh yeah I forgot that was today.

People in my circle kept asking me over and over to go online for them and get their coupons. I'm the local nerd in these parts.

Meh.

My dad got our converters earlier. The rest of our TVs are run on Comcast digi cable. I miss the analog. We got a preview of the DTV and it was hella annoying when the signal would mess up a bit because of the wind. My gramma calls it "the messy squares".

Alas, this is the end of analog. Goodbye old friend. eek
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Reply #6 posted 06/12/09 10:05am

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I have cable and my picture on my TV has been flickering for the past 2 days. Hopefully the transition goes better than what I've experienced for the past 2 days. lol
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Reply #7 posted 06/12/09 10:07am

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I am 98% thankful! We don't have cable and could only watch like 4 channels because of the horrific reception and then my mom would juggle 3 VCRs because one channel would come in on one TV and not the other and vice versa vice versa and we put the boxes in last night and EVERY. SINGLE. CHANNEL. COMES. IN. CRYSTAL. CLEAR exclaim AND we get extra channels for free! clapping

The only thing I'm not happy about is when the picture breaks up into blocks and swims around because the signal is disturbed. This is going to piss me off to no end cuz you know this crap will happen at one point during the most important part of a show! mad Anybody know if that will ever be corrected?

Otherwise, good riddance analog! dancing jig
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Reply #8 posted 06/12/09 10:11am

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JDInteractive said:
Are you sad about this 728huey? smile


I had a few reservations about the transition, though I already have cable. I did buy a DTV converter box last December, and I did a test hookup to my TV. I was able to pick up 33 channels with my old rabbit ears antenna, though my local CBS affiliate kept coming in and out and I would lose the signal. sad

But the supposedly good news about the digital switch is that the bulk of the analog signal will be auctioned off mostly for cellular and wireless phone/internet use. Imagine not having to pay for DSL or cable internet service because you can now get high-speed wireless broadband internet on the old analog TV signal. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 06/12/09 10:49am

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JDInteractive said:

Are you sad about this 728huey? smile

I know it's totally stupid, but this is a bit bitterweet. boxed Like saying goodbye to a 73-year-old frienemy.
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Reply #10 posted 06/12/09 11:09am

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Thank God, Now I won't have to hear bout it every damn day on the local news.
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Reply #11 posted 06/12/09 11:28am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I am 98% thankful! We don't have cable and could only watch like 4 channels because of the horrific reception and then my mom would juggle 3 VCRs because one channel would come in on one TV and not the other and vice versa vice versa and we put the boxes in last night and EVERY. SINGLE. CHANNEL. COMES. IN. CRYSTAL. CLEAR exclaim AND we get extra channels for free! clapping

The only thing I'm not happy about is when the picture breaks up into blocks and swims around because the signal is disturbed. This is going to piss me off to no end cuz you know this crap will happen at one point during the most important part of a show! mad Anybody know if that will ever be corrected?

Otherwise, good riddance analog! dancing jig


You're right the ones that come in are perfect. But I get bad reception, and that means I get three (3) channels. 3 fucking channels.

My analog reception sucks, too, but I can watch whatever channel I want and deal with the fuzz. With digital I am not allowed to watch something that is fuzzy. Either you're in the club or not.
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Reply #12 posted 06/12/09 11:31am

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I am 98% thankful! We don't have cable and could only watch like 4 channels because of the horrific reception and then my mom would juggle 3 VCRs because one channel would come in on one TV and not the other and vice versa vice versa and we put the boxes in last night and EVERY. SINGLE. CHANNEL. COMES. IN. CRYSTAL. CLEAR exclaim AND we get extra channels for free! clapping

The only thing I'm not happy about is when the picture breaks up into blocks and swims around because the signal is disturbed. This is going to piss me off to no end cuz you know this crap will happen at one point during the most important part of a show! mad Anybody know if that will ever be corrected?

Otherwise, good riddance analog! dancing jig


You're right the ones that come in are perfect. But I get bad reception, and that means I get three (3) channels. 3 fucking channels.

My analog reception sucks, too, but I can watch whatever channel I want and deal with the fuzz. With digital I am not allowed to watch something that is fuzzy. Either you're in the club or not.


Are you talking about the blue screen that says No program? lol
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Reply #13 posted 06/12/09 11:46am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

NDRU said:



You're right the ones that come in are perfect. But I get bad reception, and that means I get three (3) channels. 3 fucking channels.

My analog reception sucks, too, but I can watch whatever channel I want and deal with the fuzz. With digital I am not allowed to watch something that is fuzzy. Either you're in the club or not.


Are you talking about the blue screen that says No program? lol


Yeah I think so. Mine is black, but yeah, if the signal is not strong enough that's what happens.

For a while I was optimistic that "no program" was being broadcast, but I saw it happen on channels that I had received before, so it's really just bad reception. And I live less than a mile from downtown Oakland!
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Reply #14 posted 06/12/09 12:28pm

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isn't weird though...that the Govt. FORCED this to happen? why I ask? why?
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Reply #15 posted 06/12/09 12:32pm

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728huey said:

Today is the day that all over-the-air broadcast signals in the United States are required to switch from analog transmission to digital transmission. On the east coast the switch has already occurred, but as I post this in the state of Illinois, the switch is only minutes away.



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Damn, I have that exact TV!

Hooked up to digital cable, though.
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Reply #16 posted 06/12/09 12:44pm

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hmmm I wonder if the analog broadcasting infrastructure is such that some TV signal traffic will still happen... just not commercially. If so, it'd be fascinating to know what sorts of people or interests might still broadcast on the old system.

Perhaps a sort of subculture might develop, not unlike that around shortwave radio broadcasting.
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Reply #17 posted 06/12/09 12:59pm

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Lammastide said:

hmmm I wonder if the analog broadcasting infrastructure is such that some TV signal traffic will still happen... just not commercially. If so, it'd be fascinating to know what sorts of people or interests might still broadcast on the old system.

Perhaps a sort of subculture might develop, not unlike that around shortwave radio broadcasting.


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Reply #18 posted 06/12/09 1:00pm

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:



Are you talking about the blue screen that says No program? lol


Yeah I think so. Mine is black, but yeah, if the signal is not strong enough that's what happens.

For a while I was optimistic that "no program" was being broadcast, but I saw it happen on channels that I had received before, so it's really just bad reception. And I live less than a mile from downtown Oakland!

I thought there wouldn't be reception issues because it's a satelite feed. So your antenna still has to pick up that signal and the box doesn't do that itself?
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Reply #19 posted 06/12/09 1:03pm

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NDRU said:

Lammastide said:

hmmm I wonder if the analog broadcasting infrastructure is such that some TV signal traffic will still happen... just not commercially. If so, it'd be fascinating to know what sorts of people or interests might still broadcast on the old system.

Perhaps a sort of subculture might develop, not unlike that around shortwave radio broadcasting.


PARTY TIME, EXCELLENT!!

IF this sort of thing happens (or even can), though, I cringe at the possible content. It may be completely unregulated.
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Lammastide said:

NDRU said:



PARTY TIME, EXCELLENT!!

IF this sort of thing happens (or even can), though, I cringe at the possible content. It may be completely unregulated.
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PARTY TIME! biggrin

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Lammastide said:


IF this sort of thing happens (or even can), though, I cringe at the possible content. It may be completely unregulated.
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PARTY TIME! biggrin

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Reply #22 posted 06/12/09 3:34pm

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I don't have it.
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Reply #23 posted 06/12/09 4:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Lammastide said:


IF this sort of thing happens (or even can), though, I cringe at the possible content. It may be completely unregulated.
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PARTY TIME! biggrin

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Reply #24 posted 06/12/09 4:20pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

I have had digital cable forever now, but I just wish the cost was not so high!I have one of those "bundles" where you pay for cable, high speed internet and land phone. I pay 230.00 a month!! mad


I have a bundle package and my bill is only half that much!
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Reply #25 posted 06/12/09 4:27pm

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sextonseven said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

I have had digital cable forever now, but I just wish the cost was not so high!I have one of those "bundles" where you pay for cable, high speed internet and land phone. I pay 230.00 a month!! mad


I have a bundle package and my bill is only half that much!


I know, that sounds really expensive!
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Reply #26 posted 06/12/09 4:41pm

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Funny, my bedroom tv doesn't have cable and I am still receiving a signal from Fox2 Detroit biggrin


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Reply #27 posted 06/12/09 5:52pm

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MsMisha319 said:
Funny, my bedroom tv doesn't have cable and I am still receiving a signal from Fox2 Detroit biggrin


It could be because your local FOX affiliate hasn't quite switched to digital yet. Most of the broadcast stations switched over at noon today, but some may wait until the end of the day. They may broadcast in analog up until 11:59 pm EST, but Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals is tonight, and if the Red Wings win, they will probably stay on the air to broadcast all of the wild celebrations throughout Detroit.

BTW, some of the broadcast stations will keep a low powered analog signal, or "nite lite" for the next three weeks. But don't expect to see any programming on it; all you will see is the station logo with a message that the station has switched to digital programming, and that one will need to have a digital TV, DTV converter box, cable or satellite TV in order to pick up their regular broadcast signal, plus the phone number and website for the government DTV program.

Lammastide said:
hmmm I wonder if the analog broadcasting infrastructure is such that some TV signal traffic will still happen... just not commercially. If so, it'd be fascinating to know what sorts of people or interests might still broadcast on the old system.

Perhaps a sort of subculture might develop, not unlike that around shortwave radio broadcasting.


According to the FCC, they will still allow low-power broadcast stations to transmit their signals in analog. However, by it's nature, low-powered signals mean they only have a signal strength of less than 100 watts. (Prior to today's switch, the minimum analog signal for commercial broadcast was 6 kilowatts.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...oadcasting

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Reply #28 posted 06/12/09 6:15pm

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728huey said:

MsMisha319 said:
Funny, my bedroom tv doesn't have cable and I am still receiving a signal from Fox2 Detroit biggrin


It could be because your local FOX affiliate hasn't quite switched to digital yet. Most of the broadcast stations switched over at noon today, but some may wait until the end of the day. They may broadcast in analog up until 11:59 pm EST, but Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals is tonight, and if the Red Wings win, they will probably stay on the air to broadcast all of the wild celebrations throughout Detroit.

BTW, some of the broadcast stations will keep a low powered analog signal, or "nite lite" for the next three weeks. But don't expect to see any programming on it; all you will see is the station logo with a message that the station has switched to digital programming, and that one will need to have a digital TV, DTV converter box, cable or satellite TV in order to pick up their regular broadcast signal, plus the phone number and website for the government DTV program.

Lammastide said:
hmmm I wonder if the analog broadcasting infrastructure is such that some TV signal traffic will still happen... just not commercially. If so, it'd be fascinating to know what sorts of people or interests might still broadcast on the old system.

Perhaps a sort of subculture might develop, not unlike that around shortwave radio broadcasting.


According to the FCC, they will still allow low-power broadcast stations to transmit their signals in analog. However, by it's nature, low-powered signals mean they only have a signal strength of less than 100 watts. (Prior to today's switch, the minimum analog signal for commercial broadcast was 6 kilowatts.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...oadcasting

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Fox2 Detroit said they were switching over at 9am, but I can still see whatever show that's on now and it's very clear confuse


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Reply #29 posted 06/12/09 6:41pm

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Alright, I'm annoyed.

Some of the NYC stations ran "tests" a few months ago, broadcasting in digital and even though I have a really old TV, and no cable, I could still see them so it seemed like I was good to go. But to be on the safe side, I got the gov't coupon and paid an additional $20 (f*cking NYC prices) on top of the coupon to get a convertor box...just in case.

I came home from work this evening, and turned on the TV; every thing was just like before. yay! I turned it off and have been doing some homework. I just turned on the TV...black screen. confused So I drag out the convertor box and hook it up. Still nothing. I know the convertor box is on, the light is green, but nothing is coming up on my TV screen. How do I get the convertor to start its scan?

I live in an apartment building so I don't have access to the building antenna...and there is no way I can afford cable. I used to get a decent number of channels but now I get nothing! hammer I hate the government; I really don't understand why they needed to change this. I think it is just a big money making conspiracy.
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