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Printablemeow85 said: JustErin said: Where do you get that they are acting like they are 'all that'? So when Rolling Stone calls wanting to do a story on them they are supposed to be like, "No, sorry. I can't because I was just on a tv show"? These kids did put in the work, and a lot of them have being doing their time on their own before this, working and waiting for their big break - which is really no different that artists in general. So they might get more exposure than the struggling artist singing in seedy nightclubs and selling CDs from their cars because they fit into this nice cute little package that people prefer to see…but don’t hate them for that, that’s hardly fair - hate the buying public. Winning a karaoke contest should be treated as it is. If someone's going to be a star they should have to have something more than a decent voice and days on end to take off work to stand in line. I don't have a problem with singers doing songs they didn't write themselves, but shows like AI do nothing but foster the idea that all a good singer really has to do is phone it in, karaoke-style. They belt out songs like they all think they're Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey -even the guys -but rarely look like they believe what they're singing. I think I just really hate the soulless, emotionless style AI's helped make popular. And I cant fathom how or why anyone would fine it appealing to listen to, Meow, just admit it, you are a music snob. I am too. But music snob acts don't sell records. They tour and perform all days of the year, but album sales? no way. You can't get mad at someone that's been working on their craft and decides to do the show that has been losing significant audience share since '07. AI didn't make that souless music popular, it already was. It's a new day in the business, and there are no funds for risks, record labels need guaranteed hit makers. Like say for instance, I loved the Black Eyed Peas back in 1998. Then they remove the Black female and add a white chick, go commercial, and I am totally an abandoned fan. But I can't be mad at them. They had to do what they did to make record sales. From a music snob to another, it's not that serious. It fills a niche. | |
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KatSkrizzle said: meow85 said: Winning a karaoke contest should be treated as it is. If someone's going to be a star they should have to have something more than a decent voice and days on end to take off work to stand in line. I don't have a problem with singers doing songs they didn't write themselves, but shows like AI do nothing but foster the idea that all a good singer really has to do is phone it in, karaoke-style. They belt out songs like they all think they're Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey -even the guys -but rarely look like they believe what they're singing. I think I just really hate the soulless, emotionless style AI's helped make popular. And I cant fathom how or why anyone would fine it appealing to listen to, Meow, just admit it, you are a music snob. I am too. But music snob acts don't sell records. They tour and perform all days of the year, but album sales? no way. You can't get mad at someone that's been working on their craft and decides to do the show that has been losing significant audience share since '07. AI didn't make that souless music popular, it already was. It's a new day in the business, and there are no funds for risks, record labels need guaranteed hit makers. Like say for instance, I loved the Black Eyed Peas back in 1998. Then they remove the Black female and add a white chick, go commercial, and I am totally an abandoned fan. But I can't be mad at them. They had to do what they did to make record sales. From a music snob to another, it's not that serious. It fills a niche. KIM. HILL. IS. THE. BOMB  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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meow85 said: JustErin said: Where do you get that they are acting like they are 'all that'? So when Rolling Stone calls wanting to do a story on them they are supposed to be like, "No, sorry. I can't because I was just on a tv show"? These kids did put in the work, and a lot of them have being doing their time on their own before this, working and waiting for their big break - which is really no different that artists in general. So they might get more exposure than the struggling artist singing in seedy nightclubs and selling CDs from their cars because they fit into this nice cute little package that people prefer to see…but don’t hate them for that, that’s hardly fair - hate the buying public. Winning a karaoke contest should be treated as it is. If someone's going to be a star they should have to have something more than a decent voice and days on end to take off work to stand in line. I don't have a problem with singers doing songs they didn't write themselves, but shows like AI do nothing but foster the idea that all a good singer really has to do is phone it in, karaoke-style. They belt out songs like they all think they're Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey -even the guys -but rarely look like they believe what they're singing. I think I just really hate the soulless, emotionless style AI's helped make popular. And I cant fathom how or why anyone would fine it appealing to listen to, Hilarious. | |
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KatSkrizzle said: JustErin said: Actually, you're not totally right with the old pros having no respect for it. In fact, the record business for those old pros was not much different than this show. Auditions, grooming by the label, singing songs they didn't write. That’s how it was from the 50s onward. I simply do not get why these kids are being labeled talentless and not worthy of success. They have the same dream that other artists have to make it big, they just choose a different venue but that doesn't make them any less worthy at all. I agree. Old pros unfortunately have to grab guaranteed hit makers. No room for risk. Santana's album from a few years back rings a bell. The guy had to put newer flavour-of-the-month acts on his disc so people would actually buy it. Depressing. Even moreso when I realised that half the singles getting radio play were just being announced as "that Michelle Branch song" or "that Rob Thomas number" "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Didn't Britney pose the same way on her first cover?
 yes she did! He is a true queen! His new gig fits! | |
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KatSkrizzle said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Didn't Britney pose the same way on her first cover?
yes she did! He is a true queen! His new gig fits!
From what I have seen of him, I just don't get his appeal. He's a screaming banshee. | |
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JustErin said: KatSkrizzle said: Ruben did/does gospel. He just released an album. Perhaps pop wise he wasn't great, but the black charts liked him. Fantasia....well hell i don't know what she's doing, but her family is squandering her dough as fast as she is. The girl that sings country, Carrie, is doing pretty well. The spin offs are too. Jordin Sparks had to stop touring for vocal chord surgery? I mean, I don't even watch the show, but I'm aware of what the alum are doing n stuff. That Daughtry dude is doing pretty well too. What the hell happened to Taylor Hicks?  Taylor Hicks is doing Broadway - Grease to be exact - which happens to be massive right now. I believe he just dropped a new album, too. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Graycap23 said: It trips me out that this is still news. People really care about this?
People still aren't ready no matter what they say. This should not even be in the news. don't they have other things to write about. I hate shit like this.  | |
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meow85 said: johnart said: I remember when the cover of Rolling Stone meant something. I don't think I'm old enough to remember that, to be honest. It's been a while.  when you were a kid they were on their Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/other vapid movie star on the cover phase. Nice to see they're back to cutting edge musicians! My Legacy
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KatSkrizzle said: meow85 said: Winning a karaoke contest should be treated as it is. If someone's going to be a star they should have to have something more than a decent voice and days on end to take off work to stand in line. I don't have a problem with singers doing songs they didn't write themselves, but shows like AI do nothing but foster the idea that all a good singer really has to do is phone it in, karaoke-style. They belt out songs like they all think they're Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey -even the guys -but rarely look like they believe what they're singing. I think I just really hate the soulless, emotionless style AI's helped make popular. And I cant fathom how or why anyone would fine it appealing to listen to, Meow, just admit it, you are a music snob. I am too. But music snob acts don't sell records. They tour and perform all days of the year, but album sales? no way. You can't get mad at someone that's been working on their craft and decides to do the show that has been losing significant audience share since '07. AI didn't make that souless music popular, it already was. It's a new day in the business, and there are no funds for risks, record labels need guaranteed hit makers. Like say for instance, I loved the Black Eyed Peas back in 1998. Then they remove the Black female and add a white chick, go commercial, and I am totally an abandoned fan. But I can't be mad at them. They had to do what they did to make record sales. From a music snob to another, it's not that serious. It fills a niche. I'm not a snob. I like Backstreet Boys.
But I hear what you're saying. Doesn't make it any easier to accept though that some seriously talented artists are being passed up for plastic tits and a cute hairstyle though. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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NDRU said: meow85 said: I don't think I'm old enough to remember that, to be honest. It's been a while. when you were a kid they were on their Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/other vapid movie star on the cover phase. Nice to see they're back to cutting edge musicians! they are? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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johnart said: meow85 said: Who?
When will nobodies who do televised karaoke contests learn they're not real celebrities, and that next week no one's going to remember their names? Who gives a shit if some fool who was on AI likes dick? I remember when the cover of Rolling Stone meant something. I was thinking the same thing! It use to be a big deal to be on Rolling Stone..and now it seems like they put anyone. Proud Memaw to Seyhan Olivia Christine ,Zoey Cirilo Jaylee & Ellie Abigail Lillian  | |
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bboy87 said: NDRU said: when you were a kid they were on their Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/other vapid movie star on the cover phase. Nice to see they're back to cutting edge musicians! they are? Maybe they meant edgy haircuts???  | |
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MoniGram said: johnart said: I remember when the cover of Rolling Stone meant something. I was thinking the same thing! It use to be a big deal to be on Rolling Stone..and now it seems like they put anyone. Rolling Stone has always been about putting on le artist de jour. Nothing has changed. | |
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JustErin said: MoniGram said: I was thinking the same thing! It use to be a big deal to be on Rolling Stone..and now it seems like they put anyone. Rolling Stone has always been about putting on le artist de jour. Nothing has changed. There once was a certain prestige to a Rolling Stone cover. Maybe some of us oldies romanticize it but it seemed that way. [Edited 6/9/09 13:45pm] | |
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bboy87 said: NDRU said: when you were a kid they were on their Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/other vapid movie star on the cover phase. Nice to see they're back to cutting edge musicians! they are? wink wink My Legacy
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JustErin said: MoniGram said: I was thinking the same thing! It use to be a big deal to be on Rolling Stone..and now it seems like they put anyone. Rolling Stone has always been about putting on le artist de jour. Nothing has changed. Indeed.  | |
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sextonseven said: JustErin said: Rolling Stone has always been about putting on le artist de jour. Nothing has changed. Indeed. Not a fan of Casiddidy but wasn't he a much bigger deal in comparison than La Lambert? Again, I could just be romanticizing. How many posts to the Prince/Vanity cover? [Edited 6/9/09 13:58pm] | |
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bboy87 said: NDRU said: when you were a kid they were on their Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts/other vapid movie star on the cover phase. Nice to see they're back to cutting edge musicians! they are? compared to Ciara, and all that mess YES! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Rolling Stone is all about 'flavor of the month' celebrities
Atleast this guy is a musician but how do you explain this abomination...  If you will, so will I | |
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johnart said: sextonseven said: Indeed. Not a fan of Casiddidy but wasn't he a much bigger deal in comparison than La Lambert? You mean because he was on TV for more than one season? I'll let others that are more familiar with that era decide.
Notice the layout similarity between the two covers.  | |
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god, what a hideous picture!
I'll take The Hills & Jessica Simpson over that any day! My Legacy
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sextonseven said: johnart said: Not a fan of Casiddidy but wasn't he a much bigger deal in comparison than La Lambert? You mean because he was on TV for more than one season? I'll let others that are more familiar with that era decide.
Notice the layout similarity between the two covers. I did notice the similarity.
Cuz he was a star of the show for a while and a pop star as well. I guess I'm not saying that "talent" is or should be the only criteria for a Rolling Stone cover, but it seems you can get one pretty quickly in your career nowadays. | |
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thekidsgirl said: Rolling Stone is all about 'flavor of the month' celebrities
Atleast this guy is a musician but how do you explain this abomination... I explain it with this one: 
RS was never all about music. Looking through the old covers is fun. | |
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sextonseven said: thekidsgirl said: Rolling Stone is all about 'flavor of the month' celebrities
Atleast this guy is a musician but how do you explain this abomination... I explain it with this one:
RS was never all about music. Looking through the old covers is fun. Awesome. | |
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johnart said: sextonseven said: You mean because he was on TV for more than one season? I'll let others that are more familiar with that era decide.
Notice the layout similarity between the two covers. I did notice the similarity.
Cuz he was a star of the show for a while and a pop star as well. I guess I'm not saying that "talent" is or should be the only criteria for a Rolling Stone cover, but it seems you can get one pretty quickly in your career nowadays. My only counterpoint would be that fame seems to be more fleeting these days. If you wait for celebs to be in the spotlight for a few years before giving them the cover then you will only have the same handful of people on your covers over and over. | |
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meow85 said: Can most people name anyone from AI besides Kelly Clarkson after their initial burst of "fame" is over? Hell, has anyone besides Kelly Clarkson even ended up with a real career? I hate AI, I've never watched a complete season (I have seen the open calls when all the bad people are shown) and I can name: Clay Aiken Jennifer Hudson Tamika Gray
oh, and Carrie Underwood. . [Edited 6/11/09 6:47am] | |
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sextonseven said: johnart said: Not a fan of Casiddidy but wasn't he a much bigger deal in comparison than La Lambert? You mean because he was on TV for more than one season? I'll let others that are more familiar with that era decide.
Notice the layout similarity between the two covers. I adore this cover of David. The 70s had the teen idols du jour! This was really big stuff back then cuz the show and the image was all about "family". There was no "People" mag and all these goss rags we have now, so people bought the image as given. He decided to undo that image. In that interview, he talked about groupies and smoking pot, so that was a major shocker back then. This was kind of like when the Monkees did "Head". People were like  . I think it's almost impossible to shock now like it was back then. | |
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RS used to be about edgy people and issues back then. It was VERY counter culture. Once you get into the 80s forward, it became more mainstream. Back in the day, The Hills would have never cut the mustard cuz there's no edge there. Louise Lasser was hardly a "flavor of the month"...she was definitely on the counter culture tip. She was Woody Allen's wife and early muse. She did his early films pre Diane Keaton. [Edited 6/11/09 15:13pm] | |
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