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Reply #30 posted 06/13/09 4:05am

ZombieKitten

Vendetta1 said:

psychodelicide said:



omfg What did they do to help treat it? I have sleep apnea too. If I lay on my back, I stop breathing. Then I struggle to breathe. It's awful. I would do the sleep study thing, but I don't sleep well when I'm not in my own bed. So the test would probably not be conclusive. lol
I'm on a CPAP machine.

do you sleep with that on every night?
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Reply #31 posted 06/13/09 10:53am

obsessed

95 times an hour? That's an incredibly high number! I stopped breathing
30x an hour, and I thought that was bad...unfortunately I wasn't able
to use the CPAP...they told me I actually woke up even more when they
tried it on me, due to the fact that it collapsed the eustachian tubes
in my ears, so I'd be pulling it off in my sleep to try and unplug my ears.

Long story short....I went the surgery route, removing my tonsils and
uvula because they said both of those things were enlarged, but not
because they were infected. I was good for years with that, but now
I'm having some problems again because of sinuses.
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Reply #32 posted 06/13/09 10:55am

obsessed

JerseyKRS said:

my tonsillectomy and shrinking of the interior walls of my nose helped my sleep apnea, but I never went for my post op sleep study due to losing insurance. I'm sure I probably still need a cpap, but again....no insurance.

sigh


What do you mean "shrinking of the interior walls"?
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Reply #33 posted 06/13/09 1:16pm

JerseyKRS

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obsessed said:

JerseyKRS said:

my tonsillectomy and shrinking of the interior walls of my nose helped my sleep apnea, but I never went for my post op sleep study due to losing insurance. I'm sure I probably still need a cpap, but again....no insurance.

sigh


What do you mean "shrinking of the interior walls"?


I forgot what they're called, but there are two nodes or something on the interior walls of your nose. Mine were enlarged and the doctor shrunk them with a laser.


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Reply #34 posted 06/13/09 2:13pm

thecloud

psychodelicide said:

Vendetta1 said:

I have sleep apnea as well. In my sleep study, I stopped breathing 60-65 times.


omfg What did they do to help treat it? I have sleep apnea too. If I lay on my back, I stop breathing. Then I struggle to breathe. It's awful. I would do the sleep study thing, but I don't sleep well when I'm not in my own bed. So the test would probably not be conclusive. lol


Please I am no one 2 say this but, don't put it off & the not being in own bed thing is the excuse I used for YEARRRRSSSSS! I sleep with C-Pap at night now & although it's unusual 2 sleep thatt way I still sleep in any position & much better now biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 06/13/09 2:13pm

thecloud

johnart said:

I talked to hubby tonight. He's gonna get checked out.
I just forwarded him the link to our local Sleep Centers.


Good going biggrin smile wink
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Reply #36 posted 06/13/09 3:04pm

obsessed

JerseyKRS said:

obsessed said:



What do you mean "shrinking of the interior walls"?


I forgot what they're called, but there are two nodes or something on the interior walls of your nose. Mine were enlarged and the doctor shrunk them with a laser.


OK, this is really interesting...were these nodes called turbinates
by any chance?
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Reply #37 posted 06/13/09 10:02pm

psychodelicide

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thecloud said:

psychodelicide said:



omfg What did they do to help treat it? I have sleep apnea too. If I lay on my back, I stop breathing. Then I struggle to breathe. It's awful. I would do the sleep study thing, but I don't sleep well when I'm not in my own bed. So the test would probably not be conclusive. lol


Please I am no one 2 say this but, don't put it off & the not being in own bed thing is the excuse I used for YEARRRRSSSSS! I sleep with C-Pap at night now & although it's unusual 2 sleep thatt way I still sleep in any position & much better now biggrin


Well, trust me, it's NOT an excuse. I DON'T sleep well when I'm not in my own bed, and that's the darn truth of the matter. Anybody who knows me well will tell you the exact same thing. lol It sounds like the C-Pap is a good thing that I need to look into further.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #38 posted 06/13/09 10:35pm

Cinnie

My family reported I had loud snoring during our Maui trip. Made me wonder if I had sleep apnea. I was also taking muscle relaxants at the time though, so I sorta blamed the snoring on that.
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Reply #39 posted 06/13/09 10:36pm

Cinnie

Someone in my family (by marriage) has a CPAP machine for sleeping and it rules.
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Reply #40 posted 06/14/09 4:47am

PANDURITO

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Vendetta1 said:

ZombieKitten said:

do you sleep with CPAP machine on every night?

Charlotte, I am your father

omfg
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Reply #41 posted 06/14/09 7:31am

PunkMistress

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psychodelicide said:

thecloud said:



Please I am no one 2 say this but, don't put it off & the not being in own bed thing is the excuse I used for YEARRRRSSSSS! I sleep with C-Pap at night now & although it's unusual 2 sleep thatt way I still sleep in any position & much better now biggrin


Well, trust me, it's NOT an excuse. I DON'T sleep well when I'm not in my own bed, and that's the darn truth of the matter. Anybody who knows me well will tell you the exact same thing. lol It sounds like the C-Pap is a good thing that I need to look into further.


Just because it's the truth doesn't mean it's not an excuse. lol

One night of shitty sleep isn't going to kill you, and if it may help you for the rest of your life, what have you got to lose?
It's what you make it.
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Reply #42 posted 06/14/09 7:40am

sinisterpentat
onic

i've been reading weight loss is the only real solution.
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Reply #43 posted 06/14/09 8:26am

psychodelicide

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PunkMistress said:

psychodelicide said:



Well, trust me, it's NOT an excuse. I DON'T sleep well when I'm not in my own bed, and that's the darn truth of the matter. Anybody who knows me well will tell you the exact same thing. lol It sounds like the C-Pap is a good thing that I need to look into further.


Just because it's the truth doesn't mean it's not an excuse. lol

One night of shitty sleep isn't going to kill you, and if it may help you for the rest of your life, what have you got to lose?


Well, to me it's still NOT an excuse, so let's just agree to disagree on that. smile I HATE not being able to sleep, even for just one night. lol Drives me bonkers. nuts
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #44 posted 06/14/09 8:27am

psychodelicide

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sinisterpentatonic said:

i've been reading weight loss is the only real solution.


True, weight loss does help. nod But it wouldn't be a solution for me. I'm right where I'm supposed to be weight-wise (and walk 4 miles every day), and I still have this issue going on.
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #45 posted 06/14/09 9:17am

JerseyKRS

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obsessed said:

JerseyKRS said:



I forgot what they're called, but there are two nodes or something on the interior walls of your nose. Mine were enlarged and the doctor shrunk them with a laser.


OK, this is really interesting...were these nodes called turbinates
by any chance?


that's them! nod


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Reply #46 posted 06/14/09 9:24am

Cinnie

sinisterpentatonic said:

i've been reading weight loss is the only real solution.


Weight loss helps but isn't the cure. Weight is not always the cause.
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Reply #47 posted 06/14/09 10:40am

psychodelicide

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Cinnie said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

i've been reading weight loss is the only real solution.


Weight loss helps but isn't the cure. Weight is not always the cause.


nod yeahthat
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #48 posted 06/14/09 12:32pm

obsessed

JerseyKRS said:

obsessed said:



OK, this is really interesting...were these nodes called turbinates
by any chance?


that's them! nod


I went to a doctor that wanted to do actual surgery on my turbinates...
so I got two other doctors opinions as well, and they both said
"absolutely not"....consequently I never did it. But the first doctor
said not only did mine need shrinking but also actual reconstruction,
and that's what the other two doctors told me was too risky.

But I'm kind of wondering if just shrinking them might help some,
especially since I can't use the CPAP, and yet you're saying that
you think you might need the CPAP in addition to what you had done.

So I don't know.....it's hard to know what to do sometimes, isn't it?
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Reply #49 posted 06/14/09 12:46pm

obsessed

Cinnie said:

sinisterpentatonic said:

i've been reading weight loss is the only real solution.


Weight loss helps but isn't the cure. Weight is not always the cause.


That's true...it wasn't in my case...they also used to think it was only
a men's problem, but they're finding more and more women with the problem
as well...I guess this thread serves to prove that.

The first time I went in concerned about it, the doctor just looked at me
and said "No, I'm sure you don't have sleep apnea. You're a woman, and
you're not overweight". That was in 1993...it wasn't until 5 years later
that I was properly diagnosed and had the surgery.

Makes me wonder sometimes if there's something in our environment now
making it more prevalant, or if it's just because more and more people
are going in for diagnosis.
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Reply #50 posted 06/14/09 3:35pm

ZombieKitten

PANDURITO said:

Vendetta1 said:


Charlotte, I am your father

omfg

your pic didn't work!
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Reply #51 posted 06/14/09 3:55pm

JerseyKRS

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obsessed said:

JerseyKRS said:



that's them! nod


I went to a doctor that wanted to do actual surgery on my turbinates...
so I got two other doctors opinions as well, and they both said
"absolutely not"....consequently I never did it. But the first doctor
said not only did mine need shrinking but also actual reconstruction,
and that's what the other two doctors told me was too risky.

But I'm kind of wondering if just shrinking them might help some,
especially since I can't use the CPAP, and yet you're saying that
you think you might need the CPAP in addition to what you had done.

So I don't know.....it's hard to know what to do sometimes, isn't it?


I'm also pretty overweight, so that contributes.

Overall, the tonsillectomy, shrinking of the turbinates and fixing my deviated septum TOTALLY helped my breathing and sleeping. I have trouble sleeping no matter what, but the surgeries DEFINITELY helped.

I'm not you, but I'd give the surgery a go, then go from there.


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Reply #52 posted 06/14/09 7:35pm

obsessed

JerseyKRS said:

obsessed said:



I went to a doctor that wanted to do actual surgery on my turbinates...
so I got two other doctors opinions as well, and they both said
"absolutely not"....consequently I never did it. But the first doctor
said not only did mine need shrinking but also actual reconstruction,
and that's what the other two doctors told me was too risky.

But I'm kind of wondering if just shrinking them might help some,
especially since I can't use the CPAP, and yet you're saying that
you think you might need the CPAP in addition to what you had done.

So I don't know.....it's hard to know what to do sometimes, isn't it?


I'm also pretty overweight, so that contributes.

Overall, the tonsillectomy, shrinking of the turbinates and fixing my deviated septum TOTALLY helped my breathing and sleeping. I have trouble sleeping no matter what, but the surgeries DEFINITELY helped.

I'm not you, but I'd give the surgery a go, then go from there.


Yup, I have a deviated septum as well....anyway, thanks for all your info..
I've just never run across another person with a turbinate problem....most
doctors don't ever mention them. The thing that gave me the most
relief was the removal of my uvula...it was so long it actually hung down
the back of my throat lol and that's what created the snoring for me...
although the tonsils were too large for my throat as well...so it made a
huge difference once all that was gone.

I may be taking a look at this whole turbinate reconstruction thing again
though,cuz as time goes on I'm having more and more trouble breathing through
my nose, period.
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Reply #53 posted 06/14/09 7:37pm

obsessed

ZombieKitten said:

PANDURITO said:


omfg

your pic didn't work!


It's Darth Vader lol
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Reply #54 posted 06/14/09 8:01pm

ZombieKitten

obsessed said:

ZombieKitten said:


your pic didn't work!


It's Darth Vader lol


all of a sudden it works for me now omfg
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Reply #55 posted 06/15/09 4:50am

JerseyKRS

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obsessed said:

JerseyKRS said:



I'm also pretty overweight, so that contributes.

Overall, the tonsillectomy, shrinking of the turbinates and fixing my deviated septum TOTALLY helped my breathing and sleeping. I have trouble sleeping no matter what, but the surgeries DEFINITELY helped.

I'm not you, but I'd give the surgery a go, then go from there.


Yup, I have a deviated septum as well....anyway, thanks for all your info..
I've just never run across another person with a turbinate problem....most
doctors don't ever mention them. The thing that gave me the most
relief was the removal of my uvula...it was so long it actually hung down
the back of my throat lol and that's what created the snoring for me...
although the tonsils were too large for my throat as well...so it made a
huge difference once all that was gone.

I may be taking a look at this whole turbinate reconstruction thing again
though,cuz as time goes on I'm having more and more trouble breathing through
my nose, period.



the recovery from that was minimal at best, at least that is what I was told. It was hard to tell the difference with the septum surgery done at the same time.

Once I get insurance, I need another sleep study. If it recommends a c-pap, I'll get it. ANYTHING that helps me sleep is welcomed. nod


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Reply #56 posted 06/15/09 4:59am

MrsMdiver

obsessed said:

JerseyKRS said:



I'm also pretty overweight, so that contributes.

Overall, the tonsillectomy, shrinking of the turbinates and fixing my deviated septum TOTALLY helped my breathing and sleeping. I have trouble sleeping no matter what, but the surgeries DEFINITELY helped.

I'm not you, but I'd give the surgery a go, then go from there.


Yup, I have a deviated septum as well....anyway, thanks for all your info..
I've just never run across another person with a turbinate problem....most
doctors don't ever mention them. The thing that gave me the most
relief was the removal of my uvula...it was so long it actually hung down
the back of my throat lol and that's what created the snoring for me...
although the tonsils were too large for my throat as well...so it made a
huge difference once all that was gone.

I may be taking a look at this whole turbinate reconstruction thing again
though,cuz as time goes on I'm having more and more trouble breathing through
my nose, period.



I had my tonsils out at age 19, sinus and septoplasty surgery 6 years ago. All of those things helped a little bit with my snoring but not as much as the ENT's had hoped.
I had a sleep study done 6 months after my septoplasty/sinus surgery and I showed mild sleep apnea at the time. I was underweight back then and it was suggested that I have another sleep study in 5 yrs. to see if it had progressed any.
The worst part about the septoplasty surgery was getting the splints removed. I was not prepared for that to happen 2 weeks post op.
My father has severe sleep apnea and has been on the CPAP for many years.
I have always snored and have never been over weight, until now but I am pregnant.
sigh
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Reply #57 posted 06/15/09 3:10pm

obsessed

JerseyKRS said:

obsessed said:



Yup, I have a deviated septum as well....anyway, thanks for all your info..
I've just never run across another person with a turbinate problem....most
doctors don't ever mention them. The thing that gave me the most
relief was the removal of my uvula...it was so long it actually hung down
the back of my throat lol and that's what created the snoring for me...
although the tonsils were too large for my throat as well...so it made a
huge difference once all that was gone.

I may be taking a look at this whole turbinate reconstruction thing again
though,cuz as time goes on I'm having more and more trouble breathing through
my nose, period.



the recovery from that was minimal at best, at least that is what I was told. It was hard to tell the difference with the septum surgery done at the same time.

Once I get insurance, I need another sleep study. If it recommends a c-pap, I'll get it. ANYTHING that helps me sleep is welcomed. nod


I really hope you get your insurance and get yourself fixed once and for all..
most people do very well on the CPAP's, and that may be just the ticket for
you nod Good luck!
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Reply #58 posted 06/15/09 3:14pm

pardonme4livin

Vendetta1 said:

I have sleep apnea as well. In my sleep study, I stopped breathing 60-65 times.


Tell that chick to stop trying to suffocate you Ivy... hug

wink lol
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Reply #59 posted 06/15/09 3:27pm

obsessed

MrsMdiver said:

obsessed said:



Yup, I have a deviated septum as well....anyway, thanks for all your info..
I've just never run across another person with a turbinate problem....most
doctors don't ever mention them. The thing that gave me the most
relief was the removal of my uvula...it was so long it actually hung down
the back of my throat lol and that's what created the snoring for me...
although the tonsils were too large for my throat as well...so it made a
huge difference once all that was gone.

I may be taking a look at this whole turbinate reconstruction thing again
though,cuz as time goes on I'm having more and more trouble breathing through
my nose, period.



I had my tonsils out at age 19, sinus and septoplasty surgery 6 years ago. All of those things helped a little bit with my snoring but not as much as the ENT's had hoped.
I had a sleep study done 6 months after my septoplasty/sinus surgery and I showed mild sleep apnea at the time. I was underweight back then and it was suggested that I have another sleep study in 5 yrs. to see if it had progressed any.
The worst part about the septoplasty surgery was getting the splints removed. I was not prepared for that to happen 2 weeks post op.
My father has severe sleep apnea and has been on the CPAP for many years.
I have always snored and have never been over weight, until now but I am pregnant.
sigh


I'm so sorry to hear that you're still experiencing sleep apnea, even
after the surgeries...hopefully it won't get worse. And pregnancy weight-
gain, I wouldn't think, would affect it. Hopefully, all goes well for you
when you're retested.
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