Imago said: There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.
That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish , the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them. Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could. I completely agree with everything you say up to the bolded part. Based on the one sample we've got, does it seem inevitable or particularly likely that civilizations as we understand them will arise on planets containing life? There are millions of species on the planet currently, millions more that have died out on the tree of life in the 600 million years of animal life, and only one (or a few, depending on where neanderthals fall on the tree these days, & the level of sophistication they achieved: I'm not sure where that debate stands [not to get lost in details]) has apparently developed the level of intelligence that would be required to develop civilizations as we define them. Our planet shows that you don't need that level of intellect to thrive as a species. The prospect of a universe teeming with intelligence is wonderful & enticing to think about, but isn't it more likely that we're just a sole, lonely outlier? [Edited 6/13/09 7:12am] | |
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damosuzuki said: . The prospect of a universe teeming with intelligence is wonderful & enticing to think about, but isn't it more likely that we're just a sole, lonely outlier?
[Edited 6/13/09 7:12am] Given the limitations of the human brain? No. | |
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IGNORANCE.
They aren't called UFOS in the military. They use zero point energy aka anti gravity. WE DO NOT need fossil fuels. The reason for secrecy is GEOPOLITICAL POWER. research the disclosure project; NEARLY 500 MILITARY, CORPORATE AND INTELIGENCE WITNESSES willing to testify before congress. write to congress; DEMAND OPEN HEARINGS | |
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Imago said: There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.
That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish , the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them. Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could. einstein was a fraud. | |
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goodlookingmofo said: IGNORANCE.
They aren't called UFOS in the military. They use zero point energy aka anti gravity. WE DO NOT need fossil fuels. The reason for secrecy is GEOPOLITICAL POWER. research the disclosure project; NEARLY 500 MILITARY, CORPORATE AND INTELIGENCE WITNESSES willing to testify before congress. write to congress; DEMAND OPEN HEARINGS 99% true. | |
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Graycap23 said: goodlookingmofo said: IGNORANCE.
They aren't called UFOS in the military. They use zero point energy aka anti gravity. WE DO NOT need fossil fuels. The reason for secrecy is GEOPOLITICAL POWER. research the disclosure project; NEARLY 500 MILITARY, CORPORATE AND INTELIGENCE WITNESSES willing to testify before congress. write to congress; DEMAND OPEN HEARINGS 99% true. yes indeed it's not about little green men; IT'S ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. It;s someone's $200 trillion pot. THey will do ANYTHING to keep their grip on power. Many scientists have been SILENCED one way or another when trying to bring these projects out. It's up to the public to research the TECHNOLOGY and DEMAND these projects are brought forward from the dark. FORGET BULLSHIT conspiracy sites and reptilians etc. That's DELIBERATE DISINFO. Research the orion project. They are working with inventors to bring out zero point energy technologies but have NO FUNDING from corporations. They have been threatened and when Dr Greer started the disclosureproject his friend was MURDERED. FAX OBAMA from the disclosureprojects website.Even though he is currently working for these guys who control the projects, banks, goverments etc SOMEONE on his team may want the public to be free from this bullshit. | |
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goodlookingmofo said: Graycap23 said: 99% true. SOMEONE on his team may want the public to be free from this bullshit. It has become more than complicated. I'm coming at this thing from multiple angles. On the 1 hand, one of the main components is the technology. Another is the control factor, and the last one is the very real possiblity that the E.T. issue is much more than meets the eye. | |
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Can someone explain 2 me what this is? On an 5,000 year old pyramid?
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Anyone know what this is?
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coolcat said: Alien lifeforms somewhere in the universe? Definitely.
UFOs meaning alien spacecraft that have visited Earth already? No. Please explain the "Exodus" in the bible to me then. Something in the sky which provided shade in the day and light at night led this precession for 40 fucking years. It landed on a mountain top and Moses entered it then came out glowing and holding the ten commandments. What's a "Chariot of Fire"? I've personally seen shit and I believe .... but "Blessed is he who has not seen but still believes". or something like that. | |
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novabrkr said: This was so 90s...
and 80's and 70's and 60's ann 50's and 40's and many millennia of discussions past and thus to come. | |
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NDRU said: That's crazy! Why have I never heard that? I have heard that one astronaut saw "something" but never read details like that!
But anyway it doesn't matter since the whole moon landing was a fabrication! There is video footage of "things" following space shuttles and even Apollo. Even recordings of astronauts saying "we still see the UFO trailing us" before the transmission ends. Where have you been? | |
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purplesweat said: JustErin said: I thought that historians claimed it was head wrapping as infants that created that egg shape. That and also they claimed that a certain genetic line had heads like that. That reminded me, I saw a documentary not long ago of an African man who's head had been wrapped as an infant. It really did look exactly like that carving shows. Thank you and it's not a a practice that was adopted 20 years ago, it's been around the African continent for eons. Just like those Asian women who stretch their necks with those copper wire coils. | |
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ZombieKitten said: Cruel kids. | |
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Graycap23 said: Can someone explain 2 me what this is? On an 5,000 year old pyramid?
The tank resembles a submarine more than anything else. | |
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dseann said: Graycap23 said: Can someone explain 2 me what this is? On an 5,000 year old pyramid?
The tank resembles a submarine more than anything else. Those comments weren't mine. It looks exactly like a sub.....but from 5,000 years ago? What up? | |
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Graycap23 said: dseann said: The tank resembles a submarine more than anything else. Those comments weren't mine. It looks exactly like a sub.....but from 5,000 years ago? What up? There are many things from Egypt that historians chose to ignore. There are also light bulbs and other modern things depicted in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. UFO's have been seen in the skyline since the beginning of time yet people still deny their existence. Explain that. Even Native American drawings depict them, ancient Chinese drawings, Indian drawings, the Inca's and the Mayan's all have stories and artist's renditions of them. How can one say they don't exist and that they haven't visited earth? What have they been doing for the past couple thousand years, looking for a landing spot? | |
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dseann said: Graycap23 said: Those comments weren't mine. It looks exactly like a sub.....but from 5,000 years ago? What up? There are many things from Egypt that historians chose to ignore. There are also light bulbs and other modern things depicted in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. UFO's have been seen in the skyline since the beginning of time yet people still deny their existence. Explain that. Even Native American drawings depict them, ancient Chinese drawings, Indian drawings, the Inca's and the Mayan's all have stories and artist's renditions of them. How can one say they don't exist and that they haven't visited earth? What have they been doing for the past couple thousand years, looking for a landing spot? The egyptians PROBABLY had the technology. This of course has been suppressed. I wouldn;t rule out aliens but the technology itself that they discovered is more likely. | |
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goodlookingmofo said: dseann said: There are many things from Egypt that historians chose to ignore. There are also light bulbs and other modern things depicted in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. UFO's have been seen in the skyline since the beginning of time yet people still deny their existence. Explain that. Even Native American drawings depict them, ancient Chinese drawings, Indian drawings, the Inca's and the Mayan's all have stories and artist's renditions of them. How can one say they don't exist and that they haven't visited earth? What have they been doing for the past couple thousand years, looking for a landing spot? The egyptians PROBABLY had the technology. This of course has been suppressed. I wouldn;t rule out aliens but the technology itself that they discovered is more likely. I not crediting anything the Egyptians did to aliens. Modern European historians are trying to subtly steer people to this because they refuse to believe that African people could be that intelligent. They definitely had the technology, indoor plumbing with hot and cold water, mathematics out the ass. There still is a temple on the Nile all the way in the Sudan (formerly Nubia) which, at the right time of the evening, shows Ramsees sitting with the other Gods when the sun penetrates it at just the right angle. Everything is there 24 hours a day but it just isn't visible until that one time. | |
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Absolutely, 20 years ago, at about 11.30pm, i was waiting for the last bus at my GF's house in a rural area, across the road, directly in front of us (about 25ft away) was a house and we could here a low whooshing noise and something flew over our heads very slowly, very large, it had ten red lights like an upside down number 7, blotting out the stars as it went, my mind was blown.
it flew down the road very slowly, then two police cars went screaming past us following this thing, people were pouring out of the local pub about a hundred meters or so away looking up shouting and pointing. I was like "UFO! UFO!", my girlfriend and some lad at the bus stop were like, I got the bus, and climbed up a tree in my garden with some binoculars when i got home, nothing doing. Next day i went to work and spilled my guts and nobody believed me. Until local radio reported 47 people reported a UFO the previous night and everybody just looked at me, i was in a told you so frame of mind! Don't know about now, but back then The U.S airforce had a big presence on the East Coast Of England, Military bases, A-10 THunderbolts (tankbusters) doing routine practice sessions etc, so maybe they were interested. I remember reading about a Belgian siting (just across the water from where i was in the UK) around the same time, very similar description of craft. No way he have something as big in the sky, it was massive, either flying real high quite fast or real low very slow, i couldn't tell as it was really dark and my mind was blown, no drugs, no drink were involved, it was the most incredible thing i ever saw. Truth. | |
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Fuck! i thought that was a great post too! | |
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goodlookingmofo said: Imago said: There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.
That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish , the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them. Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could. einstein was a fraud. In what way? | |
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well... I only admit for ORG: I was kidnapped by an UFO and I have chip?s inside of me; they always know where I am and of turn and stocking they appear; I already became used to | |
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coolcat said: Alien lifeforms somewhere in the universe? Definitely.
UFOs meaning alien spacecraft that have visited Earth already? No. the first part I would agree with the second part maybe/ maybe not | |
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Graycap23 said: Can someone explain 2 me what this is? On an 5,000 year old pyramid?
what about the sphinx I heard thats over ten thousand yrs old | |
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ZombieKitten said: They do look like vaginal symbols to me. I mean come on. Women were not always relegated to second class citizenship. AT one point we were something damn special in the world. | |
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