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Reply #90 posted 06/11/09 12:23pm

JustErin

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NDRU said:

JustErin said:



I thought that historians claimed it was head wrapping as infants that created that egg shape. That and also they claimed that a certain genetic line had heads like that.


"Certain genetic line," could be alien in origin, of course.

Even our normal heads are not normal compared to other apes. We have highly developed frontal lobes, as aliens (the way they're portrayed) do compared to us. When and how did we get our big heads?

The bible describes a woman's pain of childbirth being worsened, which I assume is because of our big heads


But of course! lol
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Reply #91 posted 06/11/09 12:27pm

NDRU

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JustErin said:

NDRU said:



"Certain genetic line," could be alien in origin, of course.

Even our normal heads are not normal compared to other apes. We have highly developed frontal lobes, as aliens (the way they're portrayed) do compared to us. When and how did we get our big heads?

The bible describes a woman's pain of childbirth being worsened, which I assume is because of our big heads


But of course! lol


you know I think U'r otherworldly, Erin batting eyes
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Reply #92 posted 06/11/09 12:31pm

JustErin

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JustErin said:



But of course! lol


you know I think U'r otherworldly, Erin batting eyes


No, you don't. You think I'm an arrogant idiot just like the rest of them. mad
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Reply #93 posted 06/11/09 12:32pm

NDRU

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I don't mean to give that impression. I think it's fun to talk about, because despite all the "evidence" I truly believe it's mostly just speculation, hoaxes, & unanswered questions. There are far more questions about the universe than there are answers.

But actually only the middle comment is a joke. I'm serious about the moon facing away from the earth. I have always thought it was a strange coincidence that the it revolves & rotates at the exact same speed as the earth's rotation.

And even the comment about the alien moon base is half serious. I am laughing at the lack of sophistication of humans that aliens merely need to hide on the back side of the moon. They don't need invisible ships. They could have been watching us for millions of years, because it took us until 1959 to see the back of the moon.

I was serious about the Egyptian art. It's very interesting that some of the figures look like our common notion of what aliens look like.

I don't deny that aliens could have been involved in our evolution. Something made us different than other animals, and taught us stuff like how to build the pyramids (mysterious knowledge that we don't even have today).

I just haven't seen convincing evidence of alien involvement that could not have possibly been a hoax. Where did the quote from Neil Armstrong come from? If I saw those words come out of his mouth it would be VERY convincing. But reading a quote on the internet doesn't mean that much to me.

So I don't believe it yet, but I am very interested in it.

peep this:
http://www.alien-ufo-pict...tures.html


yeah I just can't be convinced by stuff like that. it could be a speck of dust, or a glare. They're all blurry.

Unidentified Objects? Yes. Alien spacecrafts? I don't think that's clear.
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Reply #94 posted 06/11/09 12:37pm

Graycap23

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yeah I just can't be convinced by stuff like that. it could be a speck of dust, or a glare. They're all blurry.

Unidentified Objects? Yes. Alien spacecrafts? I don't think that's clear.

That is not much 2 go on.....look at the site itself. The Armstrong quote and more is there.
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Reply #95 posted 06/11/09 12:38pm

JustErin

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Graycap23 said:

NDRU said:



yeah I just can't be convinced by stuff like that. it could be a speck of dust, or a glare. They're all blurry.

Unidentified Objects? Yes. Alien spacecrafts? I don't think that's clear.

That is not much 2 go on.....look at the site itself. The Armstrong quote and more is there.


But a quote is just a quote and nothing more.
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Reply #96 posted 06/11/09 12:52pm

Graycap23

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


That is not much 2 go on.....look at the site itself. The Armstrong quote and more is there.


But a quote is just a quote and nothing more.

I'm not trying 2 convince u.....this info or website certainly won't convince anyone.
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Reply #97 posted 06/11/09 12:54pm

JustErin

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:



But a quote is just a quote and nothing more.

I'm not trying 2 convince u.....this info or website certainly won't convince anyone.


No, no...I know. I'm just responding to what I'm seeing is all.
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Reply #98 posted 06/11/09 12:57pm

Graycap23

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:


I'm not trying 2 convince u.....this info or website certainly won't convince anyone.


No, no...I know. I'm just responding to what I'm seeing is all.

I dig.
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Reply #99 posted 06/11/09 1:03pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

JustErin said:



But a quote is just a quote and nothing more.

I'm not trying 2 convince u.....this info or website certainly won't convince anyone.


definitely. People will see what they want to see based on what they already believe. Not too different from religion, actually
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Reply #100 posted 06/11/09 1:08pm

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


I'm not trying 2 convince u.....this info or website certainly won't convince anyone.


definitely. People will see what they want to see based on what they already believe. Not too different from religion, actually

No doubt about it. I know a few folks that have taken more than a few flights on Janet Airlines. That is about all I can tell u.
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Reply #101 posted 06/11/09 2:17pm

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Graycap23 said:

Graycap23 said:


Why would officials deny should a thing?


Deny what, exactly?

Some people saw something that they didn't know what it was. shrug It was unidentified. It was flying. So sure, it's a UFO. The very definition of one. But that's no proof it's an alien spacecraft. lol
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Reply #102 posted 06/11/09 2:19pm

TD3

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Graycap23 said:

Do u honestly believe in UFOs? (alien life forms also)
Yes or no?
[Edited 6/8/09 12:40pm]


Yes Me and my mommy have seen an UFO.
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Reply #103 posted 06/11/09 2:26pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

NDRU said:



definitely. People will see what they want to see based on what they already believe. Not too different from religion, actually

No doubt about it. I know a few folks that have taken more than a few flights on Janet Airlines. That is about all I can tell u.



Janet Airlines? what's that?
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Reply #104 posted 06/11/09 3:36pm

Jeffiner

Yes!
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Reply #105 posted 06/11/09 3:51pm

JustErin

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NDRU said:

Graycap23 said:


No doubt about it. I know a few folks that have taken more than a few flights on Janet Airlines. That is about all I can tell u.



Janet Airlines? what's that?


I thought he was calling Janet Jackson a whore.
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Reply #106 posted 06/11/09 3:52pm

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JustErin said:

NDRU said:




Janet Airlines? what's that?


I thought he was calling Janet Jackson a whore.

lol !
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Reply #107 posted 06/11/09 4:07pm

coolcat

JustErin said:

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Janet Airlines? what's that?


I thought he was calling Janet Jackson a whore.


I'm changing my ticket to Janet Airlines! lurking
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Reply #108 posted 06/11/09 4:09pm

NDRU

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JustErin said:

NDRU said:




Janet Airlines? what's that?


I thought he was calling Janet Jackson a whore.


maybe she's Eve to a new Rhythm Nation?
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Reply #109 posted 06/11/09 6:12pm

Graycap23

CarrieMpls said:

Graycap23 said:


Why would officials deny should a thing?


Deny what, exactly?

Some people saw something that they didn't know what it was. shrug It was unidentified. It was flying. So sure, it's a UFO. The very definition of one. But that's no proof it's an alien spacecraft. lol

The officail channels nevr even looked into the situation as they NEVER seem 2 do. I guess the question is why?
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Reply #110 posted 06/11/09 6:20pm

Graycap23

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Graycap23 said:


No doubt about it. I know a few folks that have taken more than a few flights on Janet Airlines. That is about all I can tell u.



Janet Airlines? what's that?

http://www.geocities.com/...janet.html
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Reply #111 posted 06/12/09 3:08am

purplesweat

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

The top one looks a little too perfect to be real, but they are interesting certainly. The bottom one is peruvian, right? I've always thought it was interesting to see the egyptian paintings that show alien looking people



I thought that historians claimed it was head wrapping as infants that created that egg shape. That and also they claimed that a certain genetic line had heads like that.


That reminded me, I saw a documentary not long ago of an African man who's head had been wrapped as an infant. It really did look exactly like that carving shows.
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Reply #112 posted 06/12/09 3:13am

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JustErin said:



I thought that historians claimed it was head wrapping as infants that created that egg shape. That and also they claimed that a certain genetic line had heads like that.


That reminded me, I saw a documentary not long ago of an African man who's head had been wrapped as an infant. It really did look exactly like that carving shows.


I think infant skulls are soft and malleable, my nephew always slept with his hear facing one way and has quite a flat spot even now at the age of 4 confused
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Reply #113 posted 06/12/09 3:24am

Imago

There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.


That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish lol, the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them.

Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could.
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Reply #114 posted 06/12/09 3:27am

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There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.


That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish lol, the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them.

Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could.




It's the Fermi paradox

http://www.fermisparadox.com/
What you don't remember never happened
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Reply #115 posted 06/12/09 3:43am

Imago

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Imago said:

There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.


That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish lol, the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them.

Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could.




It's the Fermi paradox

http://www.fermisparadox.com/


The fermi paradox concerns itself with the high probability for life vs. the fact we've not discovered or can't prove it outside of earth, right?
I find that fascinating that we're so sure it's out there but haven't found it. For one, because I'm absolutely certain life is out there.

The paradox I was referring to with Einstein is specific to his theory of relativity which states that as you approach the speed of light, you increase your mass exponentially to the point where your vessel would be too massive to break the barrier.
Hence, if we wan to get from point A to point B faster than the speed of light (Say warp 8 lol), it would not be possible to do it going in a straight line. You'd have to figure out how to bend space-time.
To me it's not about whether in theory these things are possible, but whether it's possible to build anything that can do it. That's were I have to wonder if other civilizations have been able to do it, and I get this sinking feeling that they haven't cause it's not possible. Hence, why we haven't been visited.

I hope, and I honestly mean this, that I'm wrong.
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Reply #116 posted 06/12/09 4:13am

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Imago said:

endymion said:





It's the Fermi paradox

http://www.fermisparadox.com/


The fermi paradox concerns itself with the high probability for life vs. the fact we've not discovered or can't prove it outside of earth, right?
I find that fascinating that we're so sure it's out there but haven't found it. For one, because I'm absolutely certain life is out there.

The paradox I was referring to with Einstein is specific to his theory of relativity which states that as you approach the speed of light, you increase your mass exponentially to the point where your vessel would be too massive to break the barrier.
Hence, if we wan to get from point A to point B faster than the speed of light (Say warp 8 lol), it would not be possible to do it going in a straight line. You'd have to figure out how to bend space-time.
To me it's not about whether in theory these things are possible, but whether it's possible to build anything that can do it. That's were I have to wonder if other civilizations have been able to do it, and I get this sinking feeling that they haven't cause it's not possible. Hence, why we haven't been visited.

I hope, and I honestly mean this, that I'm wrong.


Sorry Dan i was making an observation on your middle paragraph about the fact that we haven't encountered aliens yet thats why i mentioned Fermi

The Einstein paradox of which you speaketh could be one of the reasons for the Fermi paradox (if i had actually taken in the word 'paradox' from your statement i probably would have reworded my response, but i might not have done cos that would have meant more typing and i try to avoid unecessary use of my lil brain)

and yeah your right about the definition
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Reply #117 posted 06/12/09 5:42am

Graycap23

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There is no evidence so far that we've ever been visited outside of fanciful conjecture based on ancient civilization drawings and a modern phenomenon of die-hard 'witnesses' who are unable to really show anything concrete. So, I'm not willing to say they haven't visited us, but I would need to see evidence to say that the have.


That being said, I absolutely believe in the existing of extra-terrestrial life on other planets. I also believe that given the right circumstances and environments (which thanks to what we know about extremophiles is quite a large number of environments), that life is eventual in some form or another. Even if the chances are extremely, infinitesimally small that organic molecules accidentally fuse and form self-replicating structures that eventually lead to RNA, cells, etc. and eventually to walking fish lol, the fact that the Universe is unfathomably huge, means there has to be countless of planets with life, and countless planets with civilizations on them.

Now, whether they're clever enough to break Einstein's speed vs. mass paradox, I wouldn't be able to even guess. Though it is hoped they could.

Look into Element 115.
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Reply #118 posted 06/12/09 1:40pm

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