SilverlakePhil said:

I can think of much worse ways 2 pass on.

Aw hell! The story is getting stranger with each passing minute! TMZ.com is reporting that David's hands were tied behind his back.

http://www.tmz.com/

Carradine's Rep -- David's Hands Were Tied

Posted Jun 5th 2009 11:50AM by TMZ Staff

Now we know why David Carradine's family thinks foul play may have been involved in the actors death -- his manager tells us Carradine was found with his hands tied behind his back.

Chuck Binder, Carradine's manager, tells us he firmly believes Carradine did not take his own life -- nor does he think David died accidentally. Binder says the family has been told Carradine's hands were immobilized by the rope.

Carradine was found by a hotel maid Thursday morning with a rope tied around his neck and another around his genitals in a Bangkok hotel room.

UPDATE: Thai police are now recognizing David's death may not have been a suicide, by saying, "It is unclear whether he committed suicide or not or [whether] he died of suffocation or heart failure."

UPDATE: We've been told by the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok that David's body was shipped back to the States Friday evening (Thailand is 14 hours ahead of PST).

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Sounds like a possible attempt to save face. The Thai police noted that security footage showed no-one in or out of the room and the door was locked from the inside.

Whats next? Ninjas climbed up the outside of the hotel, killed him and tied up his wang?

Mars23 said:

I swear it's beginning to sound like the plot for another Quentin Terantino film, Kill Bill 3 - Black Mamba's Ultimate Revenge.

Hopefully Bruce Lee will kick his ass from one side of Heaven to the other for stealing the "Kung Fu" idea from him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...lent_Flute

David must've been listening to INXS records.

http://www.thesmokinggun....dine1.html

carlcranshaw said:

Interesting.....Never heard of this. Thanks.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Imagine the grim reaper being involved in your get off!

abierman said:

forgot, whores are heartless

carlcranshaw said:

What are you saying?
That article says Bruce Lee died before production.

DUDE WAS 72. I DOUBT HE WAS TRYNA GET HIS FREAK ON IN SUCH A FREAKY WAY. TOO OLD AND TOO SMART FOR THAT SHIT. HE GOT WHACKED! SOME STANK THAI THEIF DID IT AND TRIED TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE. UNTIL THE AUTOPSY, I'M NOT BUYING ANY OTHER BAKED GOOD!

I guess until the "official" autopsy results come out, we can only speculate

luv4u said:

As is the org way!

Thai police: death of actor David Carradine may be accidental

at 15:37 on June 5, 2009, EDT.
By Michael Casey, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

BANGKOK - Mystery remained Friday over the death of American cult actor David Carradine, best known for the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu" and whose naked body was found in a hotel closet in the Thai capital.

Police initially suspected suicide but now believe he may have died from accidental suffocation after finding a rope tied to his neck and genitals.

Celebrity blogs and social networking websites were abuzz with news of Carradine's death, which was one of the most popular topics Friday on Twitter, along with the Air France crash.

The circumstances of his death have set gossipmongers working overtime, speculating that the 72-year-old actor may have been engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

The practice involves temporarily cutting off the supply of oxygen to the brain to heighten the effects of a sexual climax.

Carradine's body was discovered Thursday morning in his luxury suite by a chambermaid at Bangkok's Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel, said its general manager, Aurelio Giraudo. Police arrived shortly thereafter.

"When I arrived, I saw the dead body with a string of rope tied around his neck, also tied around his wrist," said Police Colonel Somprasong Yenthuam, Superintendent of Lumpini Police station, which is handling the case.

Another police officer, Lt. Gen. Worapong Chewprecha told reporters that Carradine was found with a rope tied around his genitals and another rope around his neck.

"The two ropes were tied together," he said. "It is unclear whether he committed suicide or not or he died of suffocation or heart failure."

Somprasong said there was no evidence there was anyone else in the room at the time of Carradine's death.

Police completed an autopsy on Carradine on Friday. But Somprasong said results would not be ready for at least three weeks because the cause of death was unclear. He called the time lag "normal."

Carradine's body was later taken from the hospital to an undisclosed location by U.S. Embassy representatives while preparations were being made for its repatriation to the United States, expected to be in the next few days. Under U.S. privacy laws, the embassy is not allowed to release further details without permission of the family of the deceased.

Dr. Nanthana Sirisap, director of Chulalongkorn Hospital's Autopsy Center, told reporters that the autopsy was conducted because of the "unusual circumstances surrounding Carradine's death," but did not elaborate.

Police Lt. Teerapop Luanseng had said Thursday that Carradine's body was found "naked, hanging in a closet," and police at that time suspected suicide. However, no suicide note has been found.

Carradine's friends and associates insisted he would never kill himself.

"All we can say is, we know David would never have committed suicide," said Tiffany Smith of Binder & Associates, his management company. "We're just waiting for them to finish the investigation and find out what really happened. He really appreciated everything life has to give ... and that's not something David would ever do to himself."

Pornthip Rojanasunand, director of Thailand's Central Institute of Forensic Science, said the circumstances suggested that Carradine may have died performing auto-erotic asphyxiation, which is said to result in a form of giddiness and euphoria - similar to alcohol or drug intoxication - that enhances the sexual experience.

"In some cases it can suggest murder, too. But sometimes when the victim is naked and in bondage, it can suggest that the victim is doing it to himself," said Pornthip, who is considered the country's top criminal forensics expert but who did not take part in the autopsy. "If you hang yourself by the neck, you don't need so much pressure to kill yourself. Those who get highly sexually aroused tend to forget this fact."

Carradine had flown to Thailand last week and began work on a film titled "Stretch" two days before his death, Smith said. He had several other projects lined up after the action film, which was being directed by Charles de Meaux.

Carradine was in good spirits when he left the U.S. for Thailand on May 29 to work on "Stretch," his manager Smith said by phone from Beverly Hills.

Monica Donati, a spokesman for the French film company MK2, which was making "Stretch," said in statement from Paris that the film crew in Bangkok was "clearly shocked" by Carradine's death but would finish shooting. Carradine only had three more days of filming left in Bangkok, she said.

"David was apparently very happy about this new role and about filming again," she said.

Hotel manager Giraudo described Carradine as "very much a person full of life" who chatted with the staff.

"He was a great piano player and played a few nights in the hotel lobby," he said, "He also played the flute and the guests really enjoyed it. I mentioned to him that I had seen (the movie) 'Crank' with my family and that was the last smile he gave me."

Carradine, a martial arts practitioner himself, was best known for the U.S. TV series "Kung Fu," which aired in 1972-75. He played Kwai Chang Caine, an orphan who was raised by Shaolin monks and fled China after killing the emperor's nephew in retaliation for the murder of his kung fu master.

Carradine also appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby.

He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga "Kill Bill." Bill, the worldly father figure of a pack of crack assassins, was a shadowy presence in 2003's "Kill Bill - Vol. 1." In that film, one of Bill's former assassins (Uma Thurman) begins a vengeful rampage against her old associates, including Bill.


©The Canadian Press, 2009

auto erotic.

How the heck did he manage to bind his hands and tie a rope around his neck then connect the ropes? still sounds fishy to me. didn't Carradine have arthritis also? Why would he do this in a closet?

DesireeNevermind said:

Cause you use the top rail to tie the other end of the noose.

lazycrockett said:

so then at what point are you tieing your hands? also, how does the top rail withstand the weight? i imagine he must have weighed more than a 100 pounds.

DesireeNevermind said:

Well the hands being tied I don't know bout, but with the rope you aren't really hanging yourself one is probably on their knees and you just lean till the supply of oxygen is depleating, then if you go to far you just slump forward so their really isn't that much pressure on the rope or the rail. From the episode of Six Feet Under, you are suppose to bite down on a lemon during orgasm and the bitter brings you back from the point of no return.

him n that Inxs dude .. f'n sex freaks ..

fingertips said:

Im very interested to see if the Carradine family does the same circle the wagons thing as the hutchinson family. When the INXS shit went down and the notion of auto erotic was brought up I thought it was a shame that the family opted to go the suicide route instead of addressing a more common sexual release than most may want to acknowledge. Hell I remember Oprah doing a show on it a couple years ago.

It would be nice to see this talked bout and the dangers of it and why hasn't someone figured out and marketed some sort of slip release or a breakaway?

lazycrockett said:

Serious question...is the orgasm you experience from this really worth it? I mean...does it feel good enough to die for?

INSANE mofo's !! nice goin.

sad

Wow what a way to go...

watch some bozo 'l play with it in the media n goof its the new trend in orgasmic retardation for the sexually misguided adrenaline fanatics... I can see it now ... It was the sex that made me do it your honor. Wonder whos gonna go up on capitol hill on this one .. hmm lets bring back that twisted sister guy n blame him ... ozzy mayb.. if not lyrics sex 'l work. I see a movie .. a book . hey a play, call it "drooling rope love". righteouuus..
[Edited 6/6/09 8:49am]

noimageatall said:

I take it no one here has first hand knowledge?

noimageatall said:

There isn't an orgasm in the world that would make me give up my life then have some random hotel cleaning lady find my body and then have my friends and family try and explain that shit. I will miss him but if he really did do this to himself then he is a straight up dumb ass. Excuse me...WAS. hopefully others will learn from this. good idea about a slip release or breakaway but then how will your brain know if its preoccupied? isn't that why people end up dying?

DesireeNevermind said:

co-sign...

Family wants FBI, forensics expert to investigate Carradine death


at 15:31 on June 6, 2009, EDT.
By Anthony Mccartney, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


David Carradine in 2003. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Michel Euler, File


LOS ANGELES - The family of David Carradine is asking a private forensics expert and the FBI to help investigate the "Kung Fu" actor's death, lawyer Mark Geragos said Saturday, the same day Thai police said surveillance footage indicated no one had entered his Bangkok hotel room before he died.

Carradine's brother Keith met Friday with the FBI and filed reports that could lead to the agency opening its own inquiry, said Geragos, who represents Keith Carradine. Once the body is back in Los Angeles, the family will also seek a private autopsy by famed forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to determine whether another person could have been involved, Geragos said.

He said the family intervened because of conflicting information about Carradine's death and a lack of direct information from Thai authorities.

"All we really know is not much more than what the public knows, and that's disturbing," Geragos said.

FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said Saturday that the agency only gets involved in death investigations overseas if a crime is suspected. Thai police said Saturday that they had not been contacted by the FBI.

David Carradine's body was discovered Thursday morning in his luxury suite by a chambermaid at Bangkok's Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel, said its general manager, Aurelio Giraudo. Carradine's family, friends and representatives have said they doubt the 72-year-old actor would have killed himself.

Police initially said Carradine's body was found "naked, hanging in a closet," causing them to suspect he had taken his own life. On Friday, however, police said the actor may have died from accidental suffocation or heart failure after revealing that he was found with a rope tied around his wrist, neck and genitals - leading to speculation that Carradine may have engaged in a dangerous form of sex play known as auto-erotic asphyxiation.

The results of an autopsy performed Friday in Bangkok were not expected for at least three weeks, said Dr. Nanthana Sirisap, director of Chulalongkorn Hospital's Autopsy Centre. Nanthana said that was normal considering the unusual circumstances of the death.

Col. Somprasong Yenthuam, who is heading the investigation, said police have interviewed all staff at the hotel where Carradine was staying and reviewed surveillance footage outside his room. Based on that, they have found no evidence that anyone was in Carradine's room before he died which they said all but ruled out foul play.

The investigation continued Saturday, with police interviewing the crew of the film that Carradine was shooting in Bangkok.

Baden is a celebrity among forensic pathologists, appearing on a series of HBO specials highlighting some of the more than 20,000 autopsies he has performed. He frequently consults on high-profile cases, including conducting an autopsy on Drew Peterson's third wife and as a defence witness for Phil Spector during his first murder trial.

Baden is the chief forensic pathologist for the New York State Police and Geragos said he expects Baden's examination will clear up many unanswered questions.

"It's an amazing thing what a good pathologist can accomplish," Geragos said.

Carradine flew to Thailand last week and began work on a film titled "Stretch" two days before his death. His friends and associates told CNN's Larry King he had a happy marriage, recently bought a new car, and had several films lined up after he finished work in Bangkok.

Carradine, a martial arts practitioner himself, was best known for the U.S. TV series "Kung Fu," which aired from 1972-75. He played Kwai Chang Caine, an orphan who was raised by Shaolin monks and fled China for the American West after killing the emperor's nephew in retaliation for the murder of his kung fu master.

Carradine also appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby. He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga "Kill Bill."

Funeral arrangements have not been announced.


©The Canadian Press, 2009

I am glad the family is getting a 2nd opinion from Mr. Baden

Terrible and I don't believe it was a SUICIDE AT ALL!