or that you walk around a lot more while travelling

Holy fucking shit, I had a theory about that after watcing Germans gorge themselves on yager snitzel, brotworst, beer, and whole milk yogurt day after day.

NONE of their food over their has perservatives... Not even their beer. It's not allowed.

I was trying to figure out why they stay so much thinner than Americans. And I don't mean thin like as in skinny or wafish like runway models, but thin as in healthy looking.

My sis and I actually thought maybe it had something to do with preservatives and hormones. Bill Mayer once said he refuses to eat anything in American Grocery stores, and he gets all his food from Organic grocers, because what we're being told is food isn't really.


But I also notice, they walk alot more than we do, and they bicycle on weekends just for fun. All the little things add up.



Have you ever read the China study? It's a book that was published a while back. Asians consume , per body weight, more calories than Americans on average, but weight less. They think there's a link between that and animal consumption. I'm not totally convinced about this, though I do know Thai people can eat all day long and never get fat--I've watched my family in Thailand do it. At issue is that Europeans are veracious meat eaters compared to us in the states... And they're still much thinner.


My current strategy is to treat it as a calories game. It's impossible if you're eating 400-500 calories a day less than your body needs to maintain itself, to NOT loose weight. So as painful as it is, I'm just counting calories. I don't want to go on 3 years of this. I've lost my beautiful, pert, ass, and need to get it back.

I noticed this in Wales and England. In Wales they walk everywhere despite the shit weather. I mean, it's nothing for them to walk 2 or 3 miles into downtown Cardiff to go drinking, then walk 2 or 3 miles back AFTER dancing for a few hours.

In London, to take advantage of the subway, you're still walking around like mad in a crazy rush. You can't avoid walking in the UK.


I wonder if New Yorkers who use public transport and walk alot have lower rates of obesity.

I noticed this in Wales and England. In Wales they walk everywhere despite the shit weather. I mean, it's nothing for them to walk 2 or 3 miles into downtown Cardiff to go drinking, then walk 2 or 3 miles back AFTER dancing for a few hours.

In London, to take advantage of the subway, you're still walking around like mad in a crazy rush. You can't avoid walking in the UK.


I wonder if New Yorkers who use public transport and walk alot have lower rates of obesity.

I was hard pressed to find many obese New Yorkers my age and younger, but

I saw LOTS of obese folks in new york. I was looking, too. Maybe they were all tourists, though.

I was hard pressed to find many obese New Yorkers my age and younger, but
I saw loads of obese folks in Vegas thought
Stockholm very few overweight folks, but in Southern Sweden where you have to drive around due to bigger distances, I saw many.
Melbourne Australia, outer burbs, quite a few! My son's school - quite a skinny bunch thanks to their tremendous efforts in health and nutrition education

I was hard pressed to find many obese New Yorkers my age and younger, but
I saw loads of obese folks in Vegas thought
Stockholm very few overweight folks, but in Southern Sweden where you have to drive around due to bigger distances, I saw many.
Melbourne Australia, outer burbs, quite a few! My son's school - quite a skinny bunch thanks to their tremendous efforts in health and nutrition education

When you quit smoking, did you put on weight?
Many of my friends claim they put on weight after quitting smoking.

Back in '99 when I quit, I didn't notice any weight difference at all. But then again, quitting smoking increased my endurance while running and at the gym, so it may have actually helped.


I'm not 100% sure what all the issues are in America, but Muse and Dex's theory is starting to interest me, cause I thought about it too. Those fuckers in Europe eat alot of fat and meats!

Right? NY walks far more... Vegas contains so many folks from all over its hard to say where they are from. By far the heaviest folks I have seen are from the Southern states. I mean to say, in Memphis I stared at the 2 thin people that walked by because they were an anomaly. Then I ate there food. Holy Lord above, best cooking I ever had but if you didn't specify you wanted your salad to be served in a natural state, they found a way to fry it and present it.

Right? NY walks far more... Vegas contains so many folks from all over its hard to say where they are from. By far the heaviest folks I have seen are from the Southern states. I mean to say, in Memphis I stared at the 2 thin people that walked by because they were an anomaly. Then I ate there food. Holy Lord above, best cooking I ever had but if you didn't specify you wanted your salad to be served in a natural state, they found a way to fry it and present it.

Right? NY walks far more... Vegas contains so many folks from all over its hard to say where they are from. By far the heaviest folks I have seen are from the Southern states. I mean to say, in Memphis I stared at the 2 thin people that walked by because they were an anomaly. Then I ate there food. Holy Lord above, best cooking I ever had but if you didn't specify you wanted your salad to be served in a natural state, they found a way to fry it and present it.

I quit in mid August and put on about 20-ish pounds by the end of November and maintained that till mid-March of this year when I started doing something about it. I'm just now fitting back into the clothes I wore last summer before I quit.

Right? NY walks far more... Vegas contains so many folks from all over its hard to say where they are from. By far the heaviest folks I have seen are from the Southern states. I mean to say, in Memphis I stared at the 2 thin people that walked by because they were an anomaly. Then I ate there food. Holy Lord above, best cooking I ever had but if you didn't specify you wanted your salad to be served in a natural state, they found a way to fry it and present it.

yes, but we got lost and went to a walmart far from the strip, and I think it was locals and they weren't so skinny either

yes, but we got lost and went to a walmart far from the strip, and I think it was locals and they weren't so skinny either

Do you attribute it to quitting smoking?

Do you attribute it to quitting smoking?

OK, this isn't a good sample of America. It's just not.

Absolutely. There's no way I'd have gained 20 pounds in 3 months if I hadn't quit.
When I tried to quit in 2006 I gained 10 pounds the first 2 weeks and that's when I'd just lost 40 pounds. I freaked out and eventually started smoking again, but the damage was done.

Absolutely. There's no way I'd have gained 20 pounds in 3 months if I hadn't quit.
When I tried to quit in 2006 I gained 10 pounds the first 2 weeks and that's when I'd just lost 40 pounds. I freaked out and eventually started smoking again, but the damage was done.

I wish they'd legalize ephedrine again.

I lose weight so quickly on that stuff



I'm have an unhealthy fixation with having a large chest and shoulders. So as I lose weight, all of me is shrinking to include chest and shoulders. I think my body image or the way I see myself is unhealthy, it's keeping me motivated to keep exercising at least.

I'm going to agree with Karen. In Alabama, there are A LOT of obese people. Everywhere. The odd thing is that where I grew up, there are now bicycle lanes, and parks with running trails everywhere you look. And there are always people utilizing them.

We can't blame the Internet. Our Euro friends use it as much as we do.

The other thing about smoking is it totally distorts your sense of taste! Once You've stopped smoking, everything tastes a whole lot better & that's when the gorging starts!

those pics are weird, to me a lot of those normal people look underweight and most of the overweight people look normal

http://www.nhlbisupport.c.../bmi-m.htm

BMI Categories:

Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
Overweight = 25-29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

I get a 24 (just in on normal) and look much more overweight than the overweight people in those photos

In Australia, U can get speed prescribed to get your BMI down for special reasons, like trying to meet the Police force's insane BMI requirements!