I know it seems obvious that he might have had a "motive" in the hand of the murders due to the relationship he had with Nicole... but from what I heard, he was on a plane minutes after the incident took place. And something else about his belongings being clean?

Anyone who remembers the 90s please help me clarify?

i was in calgary visiting my sister and watched a bit of the trial on her cable tv
i remember a knife store owner testified he remembered OJ coming into the store and buying a knife like the one that either matched the murder weapon or the knife that was found on scene... i forget which. i was ready to convict him right then

that's my calgary/OJ connection but damn you for making me feel old!

wikipedia said:

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OJ did it.
Cowlings helped.

OJ did it and the proof is these 3 reasons:

- OJ's "suicide confession" note
- OJ runs in Bronco
- The footprint of Bruno Magli shoes at the crime scene and OJ being photographed in some Bruno Maglis.

OJ got acquitted for 3 reasons:

1 - The glove didn't fit
2 - Racist Furman's association with the case
3 - Van Atter took OJ's blood sample home instead of checking it in as evidence

Once all 3 of those came into play, it was a done deal for OJ's acquittal.

emm said:

Whoa I never heard that.

MuthaFunka said:

That's it.

emm said:

Haha, I think that the knife store owner was probably seeking attention....

Anyway, I remember that there was a point in time when the OJ simpson trial actually had its own cable channel in our area. It was called OJTV. I also remember, I think I was in grade 7 at the time....

our teacher stopped classes when they were ready to announce the verdict and we listened to it on the radio....

I mean, really, how crazy is that that a bunch of 12 year olds in Canada stopped classes mid-day so we could listen to the outcome of a celebrity murder trial?

Things were so ridiculous.

MuthaFunka said:

But his suicide note said he had nothing to do with the murders. I think I would be pretty upset if a police department was after me for something I didn't do but seemed destined to be punished for.

What is the Bronco part? I just read that someone said they saw a Bronco drive through the area of Nicole's house around 10:30. Didn't OJ live in the area? That's how he was able to do it so quickly? Aren't Ford Broncos everywhere?

The footprints were in blood from the scene to where the vehicle was parked? What is so special about Bruno Maglis? (Seriously?)

MuthaFunka said:

And why didn't the glove fit. Because it shrunk somehow?

This is honestly a mystery to me!

savoirfaire said:

so everyone in that trial was just in it for themselves> he was under oath. i think you'd remember if OJ came into your store and bought a knife.

grade 7? another calgarian making me feel old

savoirfaire said:

I was in grade 7 too. All I remember was someone from our grade running down the hall between classes announcing that OJ was innocent.

Cinnie said:

In his suicide note he said "Don't remember me for the OJ I am today but for the OJ I used to be" ...that's pretty much saying it all right there. Remember him in WHAT way? A killer? Yep. And how did he know the cops were ONLY seeking him as a suspect?

As for the Bruno Maglis - they're rare. Now, what are the chances that OJ and another dude in ALL of L.A. are gonna have the same shoes, shoes in which were used in the killing of 2 peopl, 1 of which OJ KNEW?

The glove probably shrunk due to all the blood soaked onto it.

MuthaFunka said:

Actually I don't know if the police were ONLY seeking him as a suspect, or if he knew that, I was just trying to see the situation from OJ's little point in hell. I think if someone was about to commit suicide because they were in crisis, they wouldn't want people to remember that saddening crisis. That's how I interpreted that.

MuthaFunka said:

Like how rare? Really expensive or just custom made or what? Was this discussed in the trial or people in the 90s were like "ooooh... Bruno Maglis" I actually never heard of them. I need the suspect to be carrying a rare vinyl record for it to have meaning to me. "What are the chances that OJ was photographed carrying a copy of Hung Up by Salt, and the same record turns up at the scene?"

MuthaFunka said:

Then why did they let him try it on?


A mystery I tell ya!

MuthaFunka said:

I am so glad you pointed out the shoes!!! I've seen pics of his shoes and the footprints and it leaves little or no room for reasonable doubt.

This is a pretty good website... http://www.wagnerandson.com/oj/OJ.htm

What material were the gloves for them to shrink because blood soaked in them?

I had gloves before, they never shrunk!

Cinnie said:

And I interpreted the suicide note as admitting guilt.

Magli's are expensive and found mainly in Italy, that's what makes them rare. And the shoes were a big part of the case. There's a photo of OJ in them while on the field of a football game.

And the prosecution had no idea the glove wouldn't fit. Had they known THAT shit, they wouldn't have even tried that stunt.

Cinnie said:

Yes, leather does shrink.

JustErin said:

I had real leather gloves and I wore them in rain and snow

RenHoek said:

Cool, thanks for that site. And yeah, the shoes being the same as OJ's is almost as good as his blood being there.

Cinnie said:

Leather. And leather shrinks.

Cinnie said:

And you probably stretched them back out as you wore them again, more frequently. OJ hadn't worn that glove in over a year, it just sat in evidence - to shrink and never be stretched back out again.

MuthaFunka said:

To be fair, it could be interpreted any number of ways including guilt.

MuthaFunka said:

Shit, not at the airport? He had time to change his clothes before the flight too? Where did they find his shoes? Did they?

MuthaFunka said:

Of course, but if they are leather, and JustErin knows that leather shrinks, I wonder why no one pointed out that him trying them on might be redundant irrelevant.

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MuthaFunka said:

My hands are big and strong.

MuthaFunka said:

I'm definitely checking that site.

Shoes are not DNA though!

MuthaFunka said:

Exactly, you beat me to it.

Cinnie, I was never into the case enough to come to a hard-and-fast conclusion of where I stand. But a private investigator named William Dear, who at one time was convinced of O.J.'s guilt, wrote a book called O.J. is Guilty, but Not of Murder where he comes to the conclusion the culprit was quite possibly O.J.'s son Jason. O.J., he says, knew, but took the heat for him.

His theory might explain everything from the shoe footprint ... to the matching blood evidence ... to the glove not quite fitting ... to the unreconcilable timeline ... to that odd fist fight no one talks about that Jason and O.J. had at the end of O.J.'s "running away" in the Bronco. Jason also allegedly had a pretty widely known history of violence, which police never talked about. And notice that while everyone else around the trial, including O.J.'s daughter Arnell, capitalized on their fleeting notoriety for a bit, no one has seen hide nor hair of Jason since.
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Lammastide said:

I'm sayin! I keep reading evidence that blood spots are "consistant with a reenactment done with a 6' man" like c'mon. It is frustrating to read.

Cinnie said:

I never had much interest in the case, but the book seems fascinating. I've not read it in its entirety, though -- only skimmed through it once when I worked at a library.

Dear is a bit of an opportunist, too, which might benefit you. He produced a documentary last year based on the findings of his book called, "The Overlooked Suspect: O.J. Is Guilty but Not of Murder." Supposedly, it's horribly produced, but the findings sound interesting.
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MuthaFunka said:

O.J. was proven not guity 4 the reasons stated above. No way he did this with the evidence presented iin the case. Beyond that, why would he do it?

MuthaFunka said:

I believe he also was acquitted because the jury was made up of people who did not have faith that police & the system are above planting evidence, conspiring to bring black heroes down, etc. And those reasons (racist cops, bad fitting gloves) that you mention just confirmed this feeling for them. That was the source of "reasonable doubt."

It took me a long time to understand that, but whether I believe he did it or not, I understand now that the system did not instill trust in the jury and it was enough to let him off.

So even though I think he did it, the system made its own bed and had to lie in it. It was probably a good thing, sort of like an earthquake is a terrible but necessary thing.