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Reply #120 posted 05/22/09 8:35pm

MuthaFunka

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Graycap23 said:

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See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.

Case proven. Aquittal.


What?! C'mon, dawg. That's ALL you have?
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Reply #121 posted 05/22/09 8:35pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Ain't NO pussy worth 7Gs! Hell, ain't NO PUSSY WORTH 500 dollas!

rolleyes Amateur . . . sigh


PROstitute. cool
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Reply #122 posted 05/22/09 8:36pm

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LA Police Detective Phillip Vanatter could not explain why he kept the eight CCs taken as a sample of O.J. Simpson's blood for hours before recording it as evidence, and why he had it at Simpson's house when evidence was being collected, as corroborated by TV news footage.
The LA County District Attorney's Office and the Medical Examiner's Office could not explain why 1.5 CCs of blood were missing from the original eight CCs taken from Simpson and placed into evidence.[21]


Like I said before, detectives take home evidence all the time, simply because it's late and/or they don't feel like driving back to the station to input/paperwork, so they simply do it the next day. Happens all the time. The only thing THIS TRIAL is, JC & crew made this practice KNOWN which led to reasable doubt.

But, what's up on those other issues I asked you to clear up?

Don't need 2 clear up anthing. Your theory is weak as hell.
He got off based on the evidence. Plain and simple.

BTW, the theory about his son? .....might be right on.
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Reply #123 posted 05/22/09 8:37pm

Graycap23

MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Case proven. Aquittal.


What?! C'mon, dawg. That's ALL you have?

What do have? $500.00 shoes.....please.
See #37.
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Reply #124 posted 05/22/09 8:38pm

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I need a Juanita Jordan or Robyn Gibson pussy! Since we're talking goldmines and all. biggrin
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Reply #125 posted 05/22/09 8:44pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


rolleyes Amateur . . . sigh


PROstitute. cool

rolleyes Nuh uhhhh I ain't never getting married.
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Reply #126 posted 05/22/09 8:48pm

Cinnie

JustErin said:

Graycap23 said:



LA Police Detective Phillip Vanatter could not explain why he kept the eight CCs taken as a sample of O.J. Simpson's blood for hours before recording it as evidence, and why he had it at Simpson's house when evidence was being collected, as corroborated by TV news footage.
The LA County District Attorney's Office and the Medical Examiner's Office could not explain why 1.5 CCs of blood were missing from the original eight CCs taken from Simpson and placed into evidence.[21]


No doubt they fucked up large, but tampering with evidence doesn't automatically mean that the dude didn't do it, now does it?

What is the motive behind framing him?


I think "catching O.J. Simpson" meant still something in `94, otherwise no one would have watched this trial either.
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Reply #127 posted 05/22/09 8:57pm

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Graycap23 said:

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Like I said before, detectives take home evidence all the time, simply because it's late and/or they don't feel like driving back to the station to input/paperwork, so they simply do it the next day. Happens all the time. The only thing THIS TRIAL is, JC & crew made this practice KNOWN which led to reasable doubt.

But, what's up on those other issues I asked you to clear up?

Don't need 2 clear up anthing. Your theory is weak as hell.
He got off based on the evidence. Plain and simple.

BTW, the theory about his son? .....might be right on.


Dawg, you've presented this ONE THING and wanna claim "Victory" now? spit. Give it a rest, playa...THIS conspiracy theory ain't flyin' with me, and neither is that weak-ass "His son did it" theory. Facts, not fiction, playa. You KNOW how I roll..try rollin' with me.
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Reply #128 posted 05/22/09 8:58pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



What?! C'mon, dawg. That's ALL you have?

What do have? $500.00 shoes.....please.
See #37.
[Edited 5/22/09 13:37pm]


Yeah, you WISH all I had was his NOW $500 dolla kicks that you claim wasn't expensive. lol
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Reply #129 posted 05/22/09 8:58pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



PROstitute. cool

rolleyes Nuh uhhhh I ain't never getting married.

spit
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Reply #130 posted 05/22/09 9:06pm

Cinnie

Graycap23 said:


O.J. Simpson's Blood Was Planted on the Back Gate. Most of the blood samples from the crime scene were collected on June 13, 1994, the day after the murders; but the three blood stains on the rear gate were not collected until July 3, 1994.
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Reply #131 posted 05/22/09 9:11pm

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Cinnie said:

JustErin said:



No doubt they fucked up large, but tampering with evidence doesn't automatically mean that the dude didn't do it, now does it?

What is the motive behind framing him?


I think "catching O.J. Simpson" meant still something in `94, otherwise no one would have watched this trial either.


Huh? Why did it mean something in '94?
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Reply #132 posted 05/22/09 9:11pm

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Cinnie said:

Graycap23 said:


O.J. Simpson's Blood Was Planted on the Back Gate. Most of the blood samples from the crime scene were collected on June 13, 1994, the day after the murders; but the three blood stains on the rear gate were not collected until July 3, 1994.


Cin, what happened, dawg? I thought you wanted to know what was up on this case? From the looks of your posts, you ONLY wanna here ONE SIDE of it - the side in which YOU agree with.hmmm

Now, you never ansewered my Bruno Magli question...why? Because it THEN makes your view different on this? What's up, playa? Handle ya bid'nis! cool
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Reply #133 posted 05/22/09 9:20pm

Cinnie

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Cin, what happened, dawg? I thought you wanted to know what was up on this case? From the looks of your posts, you ONLY wanna here ONE SIDE of it - the side in which YOU agree with.hmmm

Now, you never ansewered my Bruno Magli question...why? Because it THEN makes your view different on this? What's up, playa? Handle ya bid'nis! cool

lol

I just wanted to know why there was any doubt at all. From the press coverage at the time there was only one verdict. That's why I needed to hear more from the other side.
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Reply #134 posted 05/22/09 9:24pm

Cinnie

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Cinnie said:



I think "catching O.J. Simpson" meant still something in `94, otherwise no one would have watched this trial either.


Huh? Why did it mean something in '94?


I don't know enough about American football to speculate in depth.
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Reply #135 posted 05/22/09 9:29pm

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Cinnie said:

JustErin said:



Huh? Why did it mean something in '94?


I don't know enough about American football to speculate in depth.


Wasn't the dude just doing shitty movies and Hertz commercials at that time?
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Reply #136 posted 05/22/09 9:32pm

Cinnie

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I don't know enough about American football to speculate in depth.


Wasn't the dude just doing shitty movies and Hertz commercials at that time?


He was still some sort of football hero though.
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Reply #137 posted 05/22/09 9:37pm

Cinnie

I read that as "Heinz commercials" and almost nodded anyway. I don't remember this schitt! He was playing in the 70s, I'm an 80s baby.
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Reply #138 posted 05/22/09 10:08pm

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Cinnie said:

MuthaFunka said:



Cin, what happened, dawg? I thought you wanted to know what was up on this case? From the looks of your posts, you ONLY wanna here ONE SIDE of it - the side in which YOU agree with.hmmm

Now, you never ansewered my Bruno Magli question...why? Because it THEN makes your view different on this? What's up, playa? Handle ya bid'nis! cool

lol

I just wanted to know why there was any doubt at all. From the press coverage at the time there was only one verdict. That's why I needed to hear more from the other side.


eek Well, there was only ONE TRIAL so there could have ONLY been ONE VERDICT at that time. lol
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Reply #139 posted 05/22/09 10:16pm

Cinnie

MuthaFunka said:

Cinnie said:


lol

I just wanted to know why there was any doubt at all. From the press coverage at the time there was only one verdict. That's why I needed to hear more from the other side.


eek Well, there was only ONE TRIAL so there could have ONLY been ONE VERDICT at that time. lol


I mean the verdict BEFORE the verdict wink
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Reply #140 posted 05/22/09 10:28pm

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Cinnie, I was never into the case enough to come to a hard-and-fast conclusion of where I stand. But a private investigator named William Dear, who at one time was convinced of O.J.'s guilt, wrote a book called O.J. is Guilty, but Not of Murder where he comes to the conclusion the culprit was quite possibly O.J.'s son Jason. O.J., he says, knew, but took the heat for him.

His theory might explain everything from the shoe footprint ... to the matching blood evidence ... to the glove not quite fitting ... to the unreconcilable timeline ... to that odd fist fight no one talks about that Jason and O.J. had at the end of O.J.'s "running away" in the Bronco. Jason also allegedly had a pretty widely known history of violence, which police never talked about. And notice that while everyone else around the trial, including O.J.'s daughter Arnell, capitalized on their fleeting notoriety for a bit, no one has seen hide nor hair of Jason since.
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I haven't peeped the book, but from you've presented, I can't support that theory. Why would Jason be wearing Bruno Maglis? Why would he be THAT pissed at someone he's not tomantically linked to? That was a crime of passion not of "just vilent behavior". As for that spat with his pops after the chase - there was A LOT of emotions going on at that particular time, so him getting into it with his pops isn't strange at all. As for those that cashed in on their fame - the only 2 people that tried to cash in were Furhman and Cato. Everyone else had their 15 minutes but that was because of the magnitude of the case.

I've not read the book either, but I just perused some stuff from it online. Check this out...

* Jason didn't exhibit "just violent behavior," he dealt with a clinically diagnosed Intermittent Explosive Disorder, for which he was medicated. He was known to snap and go completely apesh*t on folk since he was a kid. Just two months before the murder, he'd checked himself into Cedar-Sinai Hospital because he thought he was going to "rage" soon, but after released he is said to have refused his mood stabilizing medication.

* He tried to commit suicide once by stabbing himself with scissors; another time by slashing his wrists with broken glass; and another time by ODing on his meds. He once almost broke a girlfriend's neck by throwing her into a bathtub. He once beat up another girlfriend at his own birthday party... and tried to strangle her later the same night. He once attacked yet another girlfriend with a big-ass knife and cut off her hair. And he once attacked a former employer with a big-ass knife, an offense for which he was, in fact, on probation when the murders were committed.

* Jason and Nicole were known to go on casual dinner and dancing dates, and some people in their circle reported suspicions Jason had developed (presumably unrequited) romantic feelings for her. Apparently the night of the murders, Nicole and family was supposed to go visit the restaurant that Jason worked at. They, of course, cancelled and ended up at another restaurant. When they cancelled, Jason supposedly left work pissed a bit early that night... a good 45 mins. prior to the murders. If, say, he went to confront Nicole and ran into her with Ron, maybe the !@#$ hit the fan?

* Jason and O.J. were often at odds. Jason once snapped and attacked a statue of his father with a baseball bat. If this is true, Jason's feelings for Nicole probably exacerbated the strife between the two and, if Jason committed the crimes, not only might he have done it with the initial intent of implicating O.J., but he would have had access to virtually anything in O.J.'s possession -- like clothes, shoes, gloves... even his Bronco, all of which he was known to use at will.

* Ron and Nicole were likely killed with a big-ass chef's knife. Well, chef Jason was known to own a set of his own big-ass chef's knives that he usually kept with him. (More on that later.)

* When asked his whereabouts at the time of the murders, Jason first said he worked late that night (but co-workers eventually conceded that he had left early), then he said he was with his girlfriend (but she has said he wasn't), then he said he went home after work to watch TV.

* Several international crime scene experts were consulted, and while they generally support the notion that while O.J. was at the crime scene sometime that night, they say forensic evidence suggests a younger, stronger, more able-bodied man committed the murders.

* Jason was never questioned by police, and while O.J.'s fingerprints were not found at the scene, Jason's prints were never tested against the unknown prints there. And Jason's DNA would possibly have matched some of the blood evidence that was acquired.

* A day after the murders, O.J. is said to have retained a high-powered criminal attorney for Jason (purpose unknown); and Jason's psychiatrist was discovered to have shredded Jason's records.

Put this all together, and it's no slam dunk, but it does make you wonder. hmmm

Oh... and about Jason's knives: A while after the murders, the book's author was able to purchase a box of Jason's belongings that Jason had put in storage but (stupidly) failed to pay fees for. Inside the box were, among other things, pictures of Jason in a skull cap similar to the one cops say the assailant may have been wearing, a diary with entries around the time of the murder referring to him as a "Jeckyl and Hyde," who was "living in the year of the knife," and... yep, one of those big-ass knives, which experts say could have been the murder weapon. lol
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Reply #141 posted 05/22/09 10:29pm

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And to boot, did y'all know Jason was arrested for a hit and run, during the O.J. trial? lol
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Reply #142 posted 05/22/09 10:33pm

Cinnie

Lammastide said:

I've not read the book either, but I just perused some stuff from it online. Check this out...

* Jason didn't exhibit "just violent behavior," he dealt with a clinically diagnosed Intermittent Explosive Disorder, for which he was medicated. He was known to snap and go completely apesh*t on folk since he was a kid. Just two months before the murder, he'd checked himself into Cedar-Sinai Hospital because he thought he was going to "rage" soon, but after released he is said to have refused his mood stabilizing medication.

* He tried to commit suicide once by stabbing himself with scissors; another time by slashing his wrists with broken glass; and another time by ODing on his meds. He once almost broke a girlfriend's neck by throwing her into a bathtub. He once beat up another girlfriend at his own birthday party... and tried to strangle her later the same night. He once attacked yet another girlfriend with a big-ass knife and cut off her hair. And he once attacked a former employer with a big-ass knife, an offense for which he was, in fact, on probation when the murders were committed.

* Jason and Nicole were known to go on casual dinner and dancing dates, and some people in their circle reported suspicions Jason had developed (presumably unrequited) romantic feelings for her. Apparently the night of the murders, Nicole and family was supposed to go visit the restaurant that Jason worked at. They, of course, cancelled and ended up at another restaurant. When they cancelled, Jason supposedly left work pissed a bit early that night... a good 45 mins. prior to the murders. If, say, he went to confront Nicole and ran into her with Ron, maybe the !@#$ hit the fan?

* Jason and O.J. were often at odds. Jason once snapped and attacked a statue of his father with a baseball bat. If this is true, Jason's feelings for Nicole probably exacerbated the strife between the two and, if Jason committed the crimes, not only might he have done it with the initial intent of implicating O.J., but he would have had access to virtually anything in O.J.'s possession -- like clothes, shoes, gloves... even his Bronco, all of which he was known to use at will.

* Ron and Nicole were likely killed with a big-ass chef's knife. Well, chef Jason was known to own a set of his own big-ass chef's knives that he usually kept with him. (More on that later.)

* When asked his whereabouts, Jason first said he worked late that night -- a story he'd change 3 times in deposition. Eventually, co-workers conceded that he had left early.

* Several international crime scene experts were consulted, and they generally support the notion that while O.J. was at the crime scene sometime that night, forensic evidence suggests a younger, more mobile man committed the murders.

* Jason was never questioned by police, and while O.J.'s fingerprints were not found at the scene, Jason's prints were never tested against the unknown prints there. And Jason's DNA would possibly have matched some of the blood evidence that was acquired.

* A day after the murders, O.J. is said to have retained a high-powered criminal attorney for Jason (purpose unknown); and Jason's psychiatrist was discovered to have shredded Jason's records.

Put this all together, and it's no slam dunk, but it does make you wonder. hmmm

Oh... and about Jason's knives: A while after the murders, the book's author was able to purchase a box of Jason's belongings that Jason had put in storage but (stupidly) failed to pay fees for. Inside the box were, among other things, pictures of Jason in a skull cap similar to the one cops say the assailant may have been wearing, a diary with entries around the time of the murder referring to him as a "Jeckyl and Hyde," who was "living in the year of the knife," and... yep, one of those big-ass knives. lol


WOOOOO! omg
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Reply #143 posted 05/22/09 10:47pm

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WOOOOO! omg

lol Yeah, Cinnie, I don't know if Jason did it, but I'd certainly have done exactly what he has done since the trial if all of that came out about me -- dis-a-friggin-pear!

...And William Dear has all but dared Jason to sue him!
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Reply #144 posted 05/22/09 10:48pm

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Cinnie said:

Lammastide said:

I've not read the book either, but I just perused some stuff from it online. Check this out...

* Jason didn't exhibit "just violent behavior," he dealt with a clinically diagnosed Intermittent Explosive Disorder, for which he was medicated. He was known to snap and go completely apesh*t on folk since he was a kid. Just two months before the murder, he'd checked himself into Cedar-Sinai Hospital because he thought he was going to "rage" soon, but after released he is said to have refused his mood stabilizing medication.

* He tried to commit suicide once by stabbing himself with scissors; another time by slashing his wrists with broken glass; and another time by ODing on his meds. He once almost broke a girlfriend's neck by throwing her into a bathtub. He once beat up another girlfriend at his own birthday party... and tried to strangle her later the same night. He once attacked yet another girlfriend with a big-ass knife and cut off her hair. And he once attacked a former employer with a big-ass knife, an offense for which he was, in fact, on probation when the murders were committed.

* Jason and Nicole were known to go on casual dinner and dancing dates, and some people in their circle reported suspicions Jason had developed (presumably unrequited) romantic feelings for her. Apparently the night of the murders, Nicole and family was supposed to go visit the restaurant that Jason worked at. They, of course, cancelled and ended up at another restaurant. When they cancelled, Jason supposedly left work pissed a bit early that night... a good 45 mins. prior to the murders. If, say, he went to confront Nicole and ran into her with Ron, maybe the !@#$ hit the fan?

* Jason and O.J. were often at odds. Jason once snapped and attacked a statue of his father with a baseball bat. If this is true, Jason's feelings for Nicole probably exacerbated the strife between the two and, if Jason committed the crimes, not only might he have done it with the initial intent of implicating O.J., but he would have had access to virtually anything in O.J.'s possession -- like clothes, shoes, gloves... even his Bronco, all of which he was known to use at will.

* Ron and Nicole were likely killed with a big-ass chef's knife. Well, chef Jason was known to own a set of his own big-ass chef's knives that he usually kept with him. (More on that later.)

*:


WOOOOO! omg



Well that was the other highly plausible theory - Jason did it. Why did he have to be named Jason?

choo choo choo
haa haa haa



But seriously,the prosecution could have made a case against Jason but OJ made for a bigger headline and more sensationalism. I remember the rumors that Jason banged Nicole. This woman was no saint, remember OJ was married when she hooked up with him and she did use drugs therefore an adulterous affair with her stepson is not all unlikely. If he's crazy and jealous and thinks she's his then why wouldn't he kill her if he found her with Ron? Wow I can't believe we still talk about this shit all these years later! omg
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Reply #145 posted 05/22/09 10:56pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Cinnie said:



WOOOOO! omg



Well that was the other highly plausible theory - Jason did it. Why did he have to be named Jason?

choo choo choo
haa haa haa



But seriously,the prosecution could have made a case against Jason but OJ made for a bigger headline and more sensationalism. I remember the rumors that Jason banged Nicole. This woman was no saint, remember OJ was married when she hooked up with him and she did use drugs therefore an adulterous affair with her stepson is not all unlikely. If he's crazy and jealous and thinks she's his then why wouldn't he kill her if he found her with Ron? Wow I can't believe we still talk about this shit all these years later! omg

Exactly!

And, for the record, I'm not at all pinning this on Nicole. She wouldn't have deserved this if she were the Antichrist. And O.J., even if he is innocent of these murders, is still a capital jerk.

I just think for all the energy this case got -- and for all the social fallout it presented -- this rather plausible theory should have been looked at. The extravaganza since the murders hasn't at all been about seeking justice for Ron and Nicole so much as nailing an uppity O.J., whether he did it or not.
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Reply #146 posted 05/22/09 10:56pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Why did he have to be named Jason?

choo choo choo
haa haa haa


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Reply #147 posted 05/22/09 10:58pm

Cinnie

Lammastide said:

O.J., even if he is innocent of these murders, is still a capital jerk.


I can agree with that to balance out my other stance.
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Reply #148 posted 05/22/09 11:08pm

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Lammastide said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Well that was the other highly plausible theory - Jason did it. Why did he have to be named Jason?

choo choo choo
haa haa haa



But seriously,the prosecution could have made a case against Jason but OJ made for a bigger headline and more sensationalism.[b/] I remember the rumors that Jason banged Nicole. This woman was no saint, remember OJ was married when she hooked up with him and she did use drugs therefore an adulterous affair with her stepson is not all unlikely. If he's crazy and jealous and thinks she's his then why wouldn't he kill her if he found her with Ron? Wow I can't believe we still talk about this shit all these years later! omg

Exactly!

And, for the record, I'm not at all pinning this on Nicole. She wouldn't have deserved this if she were the Antichrist. And O.J., even if he is innocent of these murders, is still a capital jerk.

I just think for all the energy this case got -- and for all the social fallout it presented -- this rather plausible theory should have been looked at. [b]The extravaganza since the murders hasn't at all been about seeking justice for Ron and Nicole so much as nailing an uppity O.J., whether he did it or not.



So terribly true. Jason's reaction when the verdict was read always struck me as odd. I mean he held his head down practically the whole time as if he were awaiting his OWN verdict.

And it's sad that so many people were pleased OJ got off because they thought it was a stick to the system. They didn't realize that his getting off just made things worse. There were guys getting thrown in jail for simply arguing with their women in public. The field was not leveled for blacks and whites accused of the same crimes either; still a foothill up against a mountain.
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Reply #149 posted 05/22/09 11:12pm

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I always thought they wanted to pin it on OJ for his past spousal abuse.
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