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Reply #90 posted 05/22/09 8:13pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Timeline: he needed about 4 more hours so u are correct.
Ron: hummm.....
So the last man 2 see her alive would have nothing 2 add?
Weak as s*** 4 murder
See what happens when u don't do your homework?
Blood.....see above^


- Why did he NEED 4+ hours?
- What was he gonna add? "I saw her leave and that was the last time I saw her"...that's about it.
- So you're saying you've NEVER heard of domestic violence cases that end up in murder? C'mon, dawg...you're in the ATL, that shit's as common as gold grills.
- LOL! What homework? YOU brought up the "other hairs" so YOU should be able to prove it STRAIGHT UP. Stop stallin', dawg! clapping
- Same goes for the "blood" claim.

Dawg, you know DAMN WELL you can't come at me without having evidence to back ya shit up! This ain't some of those pushover cats in P&R you fuckin' with! evillol - SHOW AND PROVE, DAWG!

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Reply #91 posted 05/22/09 8:13pm

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Cinnie said:

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Dawg, they were. The ones OJ had were around $160-$180 bucks. Now, what KILLER goes around in $170 shoes killin' muh'fuckas? lol


There is absolutely no logic in that!


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Reply #92 posted 05/22/09 8:13pm

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The worst thing about the trial was how all these mofos are getting rich. Books everywhere, interviews, promotions, auctions and so forth. I mean it was downright ridiculous. Hey I remember they interrupted an NBA final just to show OJ rollin on the freeway in his Bronco! falloff Gosh the nation was just stuck on TV tit back then.
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Reply #93 posted 05/22/09 8:13pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



Dawg, they were. The ones OJ had were around $160-$180 bucks. Now, what KILLER goes around in $170 shoes killin' muh'fuckas? lol

Bro all mens shoes worth owing are expensive. See my avatar?


Yeah, but would you go the fuckin' GYM in those? lol
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Reply #94 posted 05/22/09 8:14pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



- Why did he NEED 4+ hours?
- What was he gonna add? "I saw her leave and that was the last time I saw her"...that's about it.
- So you're saying you've NEVER heard of domestic violence cases that end up in murder? C'mon, dawg...you're in the ATL, that shit's as common as gold grills.
- LOL! What homework? YOU brought up the "other hairs" so YOU should be able to prove it STRAIGHT UP. Stop stallin', dawg! clapping
- Same goes for the "blood" claim.

Dawg, you know DAMN WELL you can't come at me without having evidence to back ya shit up! This ain't some of those pushover cats in P&R you fuckin' with! evillol - SHOW AND PROVE, DAWG!

Uh, oh bof my baby daddies finna fight. couch


I KEEP tellin' you - phunkdaddy is the daddy!
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Reply #95 posted 05/22/09 8:15pm

Cinnie

MuthaFunka said:

Cinnie said:



There is absolutely no logic in that!


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No you had no logic there lol
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Reply #96 posted 05/22/09 8:17pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Timeline: he needed about 4 more hours so u are correct.
Ron: hummm.....
So the last man 2 see her alive would have nothing 2 add?
Weak as s*** 4 murder
See what happens when u don't do your homework?
Blood.....see above^


- Why did he NEED 4+ hours?
- What was he gonna add? "I saw her leave and that was the last time I saw her"...that's about it.
- So you're saying you've NEVER heard of domestic violence cases that end up in murder? C'mon, dawg...you're in the ATL, that shit's as common as gold grills.
- LOL! What homework? YOU brought up the "other hairs" so YOU should be able to prove it STRAIGHT UP. Stop stallin', dawg! clapping
- Same goes for the "blood" claim.

Dawg, you know DAMN WELL you can't come at me without having evidence to back ya shit up! This ain't some of those pushover cats in P&R you fuckin' with! evillol - SHOW AND PROVE, DAWG!

U can't be serious.
Get back at me when u are.
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Reply #97 posted 05/22/09 8:17pm

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Cinnie said:

MuthaFunka said:



thumbs up!


No you had no logic there lol


So when you go and work in the yard, you put on your Sunday School clothes? lol
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Reply #98 posted 05/22/09 8:17pm

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popcorn
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Reply #99 posted 05/22/09 8:18pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



- Why did he NEED 4+ hours?
- What was he gonna add? "I saw her leave and that was the last time I saw her"...that's about it.
- So you're saying you've NEVER heard of domestic violence cases that end up in murder? C'mon, dawg...you're in the ATL, that shit's as common as gold grills.
- LOL! What homework? YOU brought up the "other hairs" so YOU should be able to prove it STRAIGHT UP. Stop stallin', dawg! clapping
- Same goes for the "blood" claim.

Dawg, you know DAMN WELL you can't come at me without having evidence to back ya shit up! This ain't some of those pushover cats in P&R you fuckin' with! evillol - SHOW AND PROVE, DAWG!

U can't be serious.
Get back at me when u are
.


TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me. Damn." - evillol
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Reply #100 posted 05/22/09 8:19pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


U can't be serious.
Get back at me when u are
.


TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me. Damn." - evillol

Translation.....That's NOT going 2 work this time.
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Reply #101 posted 05/22/09 8:20pm

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Reply #102 posted 05/22/09 8:20pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me. Damn." - evillol

Translation.....That's NOT going 2 work this time.


TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me - STILL. Damn." - evillol
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Reply #103 posted 05/22/09 8:20pm

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popcorn beer
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Reply #104 posted 05/22/09 8:21pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


Uh, oh bof my baby daddies finna fight. couch


I KEEP tellin' you - phunkdaddy is the daddy!

Whatevah, mayne! talk to the hand I just know you betta have my money. nod
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Reply #105 posted 05/22/09 8:21pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

popcorn beer


They betta read that last line in my sig, dammit! cool
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Reply #106 posted 05/22/09 8:22pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



I KEEP tellin' you - phunkdaddy is the daddy!

Whatevah, mayne! talk to the hand I just know you betta have my money. nod


I got about 7 for ya. razz
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Reply #107 posted 05/22/09 8:23pm

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SCNDLS said:


Whatevah, mayne! talk to the hand I just know you betta have my money. nod


I got about 7 for ya. razz

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Reply #108 posted 05/22/09 8:24pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:


Translation.....That's NOT going 2 work this time.


TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me - STILL. Damn." - evillol


http://phobos.ramapo.edu/...impson.htm


O.J. Simpson's Blood Was Planted on the Back Gate. Most of the blood samples from the crime scene were collected on June 13, 1994, the day after the murders; but the three blood stains on the rear gate were not collected until July 3, 1994. According to the prosecution account, these stains were simply missed during the initial collection and were only noticed later. According to the defense account, these stains were not collected the day after the crime because they were not there at that time. The defense offered a powerful piece of evidence to support the planting theory. A photograph taken the day after the crime shows no blood in the area of the rear gate where the largest and most prominent stain was later found. Barry Scheck introduced this photo during his cross-examination of criminalist Dennis Fung. After displaying a photograph of the stains that Fung collected on July 3, Scheck then showed the photograph of the rear gate taken on June 13. In one of the more memorable moments of the trial, Scheck pointed to the area where the largest stain should have been and demanded, "Where is it, Mr. Fung?" Mr. Fung had no answer, nor was Scheck's question ever answered by the prosecution.

The defense argued that the planting theory was consistent with the quantity and condition of the DNA in the samples from the rear gate. The other samples collected at the crime scene, including those from the front gate, were highly degraded and contained little typeable DNA. By contrast, the samples from the back gate contained high concentrations of undegraded DNA. The defense argued that these samples should have been somewhat degraded had they been exposed to the environment for three weeks before being collected.

The planting theory was also supported by the FBI tests, which showed evidence of EDTA in the samples from the back gate.

The Victims' Blood in the Bronco. The defense offered several explanations for the presence of DNA consistent with the victims' in the Bronco. One possibility, the defense argued, is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco by detective Mark Fuhrman in order to frame Simpson. Under this theory, Fuhrman swiped the Rockingham glove inside the Bronco in order to plant the victims' blood there. Although the detectives testified that the Bronco was locked when they first saw it and denied that anyone had opened the doors while it was at Simpson's residence, the defense pointed to evidence suggesting that Fuhrman had, in fact, opened the door of the Bronco. In his testimony, Fuhrman reported seeing blood stains on the lower sill of the Bronco's door. Photographs of the Bronco showed that there were indeed stains where Fuhrman reported them, but they could be seen only when the door of the Bronco was open.

Even if Fuhrman did not swipe the glove in the Bronco, he might have transferred the victims' DNA there unintentionally, the defense argued. A photo taken at the crime scene showed Fuhrman standing in a pool of the victims' blood pointing at a glove. It was after this photo was taken that Fuhrman went with the other detectives to Rockingham. If Fuhrman then entered the Bronco looking for evidence, the defense argued, the blood consistent with Nicole Simpson on the carpet could have come from Fuhrman's shoe. Fuhrman or another officer who had a bit of the victims' blood on a sleeve or shirt cuff could have accidentally swiped it onto the Bronco console while exploring for evidence.

A third explanation is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco while it was at a storage facility. On June 14, 1994, Dennis Fung first collected blood from the Bronco. The defense established that it was a general practice of criminalists, when swabbing blood, to collect the entire sample. Three witnesses testified that they had been in the Bronco after June 14 and saw no blood. On August 26, 1994, the Bronco was again inspected and blood was found on the console in the same location where Fung had collected the initial samples. In the interim, the Bronco was left at an unsecured storage facility where a large number of people had access to it and unauthorized persons were known to have entered it looking for souvenirs.

Finally, the defense argued that there could have been tampering with the Bronco swatches in the LAPD crime laboratory. If Nicole Brown Simpson's blood was planted on the sock, then her blood and that of Ronald Goldman could have been planted in the Bronco swatches as well.

Furthermore, blood was missing from Simpson's reference tube. Nurse Thano Peratis testified at a preliminary hearing that he had drawn eight milliliters (ml.) of blood from Simpson. Under close questioning, he expressed confidence that the amount was between 7.9 and 8.1 ml. n21 However, records in the LAPD Crime Laboratory indicated that the tube had contained only 6.5 ml. when it was received by the laboratory. The prosecution responded that Peratis must have been mistaken about how much blood was drawn.
[Edited 5/22/09 13:25pm]
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Reply #109 posted 05/22/09 8:25pm

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MuthaFunka said:

DesireeNevermind said:

popcorn beer


They betta read that last line in my sig, dammit! cool




Play on playa! fro
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Reply #110 posted 05/22/09 8:28pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



TRANSLATION: "Ok, Mutha...you got me - STILL. Damn." - evillol


http://phobos.ramapo.edu/...impson.htm


O.J. Simpson's Blood Was Planted on the Back Gate. Most of the blood samples from the crime scene were collected on June 13, 1994, the day after the murders; but the three blood stains on the rear gate were not collected until July 3, 1994. According to the prosecution account, these stains were simply missed during the initial collection and were only noticed later. According to the defense account, these stains were not collected the day after the crime because they were not there at that time. The defense offered a powerful piece of evidence to support the planting theory. A photograph taken the day after the crime shows no blood in the area of the rear gate where the largest and most prominent stain was later found. Barry Scheck introduced this photo during his cross-examination of criminalist Dennis Fung. After displaying a photograph of the stains that Fung collected on July 3, Scheck then showed the photograph of the rear gate taken on June 13. In one of the more memorable moments of the trial, Scheck pointed to the area where the largest stain should have been and demanded, "Where is it, Mr. Fung?" Mr. Fung had no answer, nor was Scheck's question ever answered by the prosecution.

The defense argued that the planting theory was consistent with the quantity and condition of the DNA in the samples from the rear gate. The other samples collected at the crime scene, including those from the front gate, were highly degraded and contained little typeable DNA. By contrast, the samples from the back gate contained high concentrations of undegraded DNA. The defense argued that these samples should have been somewhat degraded had they been exposed to the environment for three weeks before being collected.

The planting theory was also supported by the FBI tests, which showed evidence of EDTA in the samples from the back gate.

The Victims' Blood in the Bronco. The defense offered several explanations for the presence of DNA consistent with the victims' in the Bronco. One possibility, the defense argued, is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco by detective Mark Fuhrman in order to frame Simpson. Under this theory, Fuhrman swiped the Rockingham glove inside the Bronco in order to plant the victims' blood there. Although the detectives testified that the Bronco was locked when they first saw it and denied that anyone had opened the doors while it was at Simpson's residence, the defense pointed to evidence suggesting that Fuhrman had, in fact, opened the door of the Bronco. In his testimony, Fuhrman reported seeing blood stains on the lower sill of the Bronco's door. Photographs of the Bronco showed that there were indeed stains where Fuhrman reported them, but they could be seen only when the door of the Bronco was open.

Even if Fuhrman did not swipe the glove in the Bronco, he might have transferred the victims' DNA there unintentionally, the defense argued. A photo taken at the crime scene showed Fuhrman standing in a pool of the victims' blood pointing at a glove. It was after this photo was taken that Fuhrman went with the other detectives to Rockingham. If Fuhrman then entered the Bronco looking for evidence, the defense argued, the blood consistent with Nicole Simpson on the carpet could have come from Fuhrman's shoe. Fuhrman or another officer who had a bit of the victims' blood on a sleeve or shirt cuff could have accidentally swiped it onto the Bronco console while exploring for evidence.

A third explanation is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco while it was at a storage facility. On June 14, 1994, Dennis Fung first collected blood from the Bronco. The defense established that it was a general practice of criminalists, when swabbing blood, to collect the entire sample. Three witnesses testified that they had been in the Bronco after June 14 and saw no blood. On August 26, 1994, the Bronco was again inspected and blood was found on the console in the same location where Fung had collected the initial samples. In the interim, the Bronco was left at an unsecured storage facility where a large number of people had access to it and unauthorized persons were known to have entered it looking for souvenirs.

Finally, the defense argued that there could have been tampering with the Bronco swatches in the LAPD crime laboratory. If Nicole Brown Simpson's blood was planted on the sock, then her blood and that of Ronald Goldman could have been planted in the Bronco swatches as well.

Furthermore, blood was missing from Simpson's reference tube. Nurse Thano Peratis testified at a preliminary hearing that he had drawn eight milliliters (ml.) of blood from Simpson. Under close questioning, he expressed confidence that the amount was between 7.9 and 8.1 ml. n21 However, records in the LAPD Crime Laboratory indicated that the tube had contained only 6.5 ml. when it was received by the laboratory. The prosecution responded that Peratis must have been mistaken about how much blood was drawn.
[Edited 5/22/09 13:25pm]


See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.
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Reply #111 posted 05/22/09 8:29pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



I got about 7 for ya. razz

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What? 7 ain't enough? It was the other night. cool
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Reply #112 posted 05/22/09 8:29pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

MuthaFunka said:



They betta read that last line in my sig, dammit! cool




Play on playa! fro


You know I had to put on the gloves! biggrin
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Reply #113 posted 05/22/09 8:30pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


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What? 7 ain't enough? It was the other night. cool

$7000 sure, that's about right. thumbs up!
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Reply #114 posted 05/22/09 8:31pm

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SCNDLS said:

MuthaFunka said:



What? 7 ain't enough? It was the other night. cool

$7000 sure, that's about right. thumbs up!

Ain't NO pussy worth 7Gs! Hell, ain't NO PUSSY WORTH 500 dollas!
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Reply #115 posted 05/22/09 8:32pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Graycap23 said:



http://phobos.ramapo.edu/...impson.htm


O.J. Simpson's Blood Was Planted on the Back Gate. Most of the blood samples from the crime scene were collected on June 13, 1994, the day after the murders; but the three blood stains on the rear gate were not collected until July 3, 1994. According to the prosecution account, these stains were simply missed during the initial collection and were only noticed later. According to the defense account, these stains were not collected the day after the crime because they were not there at that time. The defense offered a powerful piece of evidence to support the planting theory. A photograph taken the day after the crime shows no blood in the area of the rear gate where the largest and most prominent stain was later found. Barry Scheck introduced this photo during his cross-examination of criminalist Dennis Fung. After displaying a photograph of the stains that Fung collected on July 3, Scheck then showed the photograph of the rear gate taken on June 13. In one of the more memorable moments of the trial, Scheck pointed to the area where the largest stain should have been and demanded, "Where is it, Mr. Fung?" Mr. Fung had no answer, nor was Scheck's question ever answered by the prosecution.

The defense argued that the planting theory was consistent with the quantity and condition of the DNA in the samples from the rear gate. The other samples collected at the crime scene, including those from the front gate, were highly degraded and contained little typeable DNA. By contrast, the samples from the back gate contained high concentrations of undegraded DNA. The defense argued that these samples should have been somewhat degraded had they been exposed to the environment for three weeks before being collected.

The planting theory was also supported by the FBI tests, which showed evidence of EDTA in the samples from the back gate.

The Victims' Blood in the Bronco. The defense offered several explanations for the presence of DNA consistent with the victims' in the Bronco. One possibility, the defense argued, is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco by detective Mark Fuhrman in order to frame Simpson. Under this theory, Fuhrman swiped the Rockingham glove inside the Bronco in order to plant the victims' blood there. Although the detectives testified that the Bronco was locked when they first saw it and denied that anyone had opened the doors while it was at Simpson's residence, the defense pointed to evidence suggesting that Fuhrman had, in fact, opened the door of the Bronco. In his testimony, Fuhrman reported seeing blood stains on the lower sill of the Bronco's door. Photographs of the Bronco showed that there were indeed stains where Fuhrman reported them, but they could be seen only when the door of the Bronco was open.

Even if Fuhrman did not swipe the glove in the Bronco, he might have transferred the victims' DNA there unintentionally, the defense argued. A photo taken at the crime scene showed Fuhrman standing in a pool of the victims' blood pointing at a glove. It was after this photo was taken that Fuhrman went with the other detectives to Rockingham. If Fuhrman then entered the Bronco looking for evidence, the defense argued, the blood consistent with Nicole Simpson on the carpet could have come from Fuhrman's shoe. Fuhrman or another officer who had a bit of the victims' blood on a sleeve or shirt cuff could have accidentally swiped it onto the Bronco console while exploring for evidence.

A third explanation is that the victims' blood was planted in the Bronco while it was at a storage facility. On June 14, 1994, Dennis Fung first collected blood from the Bronco. The defense established that it was a general practice of criminalists, when swabbing blood, to collect the entire sample. Three witnesses testified that they had been in the Bronco after June 14 and saw no blood. On August 26, 1994, the Bronco was again inspected and blood was found on the console in the same location where Fung had collected the initial samples. In the interim, the Bronco was left at an unsecured storage facility where a large number of people had access to it and unauthorized persons were known to have entered it looking for souvenirs.

Finally, the defense argued that there could have been tampering with the Bronco swatches in the LAPD crime laboratory. If Nicole Brown Simpson's blood was planted on the sock, then her blood and that of Ronald Goldman could have been planted in the Bronco swatches as well.

Furthermore, blood was missing from Simpson's reference tube. Nurse Thano Peratis testified at a preliminary hearing that he had drawn eight milliliters (ml.) of blood from Simpson. Under close questioning, he expressed confidence that the amount was between 7.9 and 8.1 ml. n21 However, records in the LAPD Crime Laboratory indicated that the tube had contained only 6.5 ml. when it was received by the laboratory. The prosecution responded that Peratis must have been mistaken about how much blood was drawn.
[Edited 5/22/09 13:25pm]


See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.


LA Police Detective Phillip Vanatter could not explain why he kept the eight CCs taken as a sample of O.J. Simpson's blood for hours before recording it as evidence, and why he had it at Simpson's house when evidence was being collected, as corroborated by TV news footage.
The LA County District Attorney's Office and the Medical Examiner's Office could not explain why 1.5 CCs of blood were missing from the original eight CCs taken from Simpson and placed into evidence.[21]
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Reply #116 posted 05/22/09 8:33pm

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MuthaFunka said:



See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.

Case proven. Aquittal.
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Reply #117 posted 05/22/09 8:33pm

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MuthaFunka said:

SCNDLS said:


$7000 sure, that's about right. thumbs up!

Ain't NO pussy worth 7Gs! Hell, ain't NO PUSSY WORTH 500 dollas!

rolleyes Amateur . . . sigh
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Reply #118 posted 05/22/09 8:34pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.


LA Police Detective Phillip Vanatter could not explain why he kept the eight CCs taken as a sample of O.J. Simpson's blood for hours before recording it as evidence, and why he had it at Simpson's house when evidence was being collected, as corroborated by TV news footage.
The LA County District Attorney's Office and the Medical Examiner's Office could not explain why 1.5 CCs of blood were missing from the original eight CCs taken from Simpson and placed into evidence.[21]


Like I said before, detectives take home evidence all the time, simply because it's late and/or they don't feel like driving back to the station to input/paperwork, so they simply do it the next day. Happens all the time. The only thing THIS TRIAL is, JC & crew made this practice KNOWN which led to reasable doubt.

But, what's up on those other issues I asked you to clear up?
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Reply #119 posted 05/22/09 8:34pm

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Graycap23 said:

MuthaFunka said:



See, dawg? That wasn't hard, was it? Naw.

Ok, so you dropped that one. I read some of it over and I can see how they botched it but I wouldn't say it was planted.

Now...the OTHER theories you came up with - show proff of those.


LA Police Detective Phillip Vanatter could not explain why he kept the eight CCs taken as a sample of O.J. Simpson's blood for hours before recording it as evidence, and why he had it at Simpson's house when evidence was being collected, as corroborated by TV news footage.
The LA County District Attorney's Office and the Medical Examiner's Office could not explain why 1.5 CCs of blood were missing from the original eight CCs taken from Simpson and placed into evidence.[21]


No doubt they fucked up large, but tampering with evidence doesn't automatically mean that the dude didn't do it, now does it?

What is the motive behind framing him?
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